Options, extensions, variables : what can be specified in the YAML header of a Markdown file and what has to be on the command line ?

Options, extensions, variables : what can be specified in the YAML header of a Markdown file and what has to be on the command line ?

[Emmanuel Charpentier]

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Pandoc has many options and extensions that can be specified at the command 
line. Similarly, template and (some) template variables can be specified at 
pandoc call.

However, this implies that the result of a the compilation by pandoc of a 
given file is highly dependent of these options.

For various input file formats, a workaround is to put somewhere in your 
source file a comment specifying the command-line options necessary to 
successfilly compile it.

I wondered what part of the options, extensions and template variables can 
be specified in the YAML header of a Markdown file, thus ensuring that the 
"right" set of options is used at compilation. However, I have been unable 
to find a description of what can be specified at command line.

Has anybody done this work ? If so, is it available somewhere ?

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Re: Options, extensions, variables : what can be specified in the YAML header of a Markdown file and what has to be on the command line ?

[John MacFarlane]

Emmanuel Charpentier <emanuel.charpentier-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:

> I wondered what part of the options, extensions and template variables can 
> be specified in the YAML header of a Markdown file, thus ensuring that the 
> "right" set of options is used at compilation. However, I have been unable 
> to find a description of what can be specified at command line.

It wouldn't make sense to put formats  and extensions in the YAML
header: after all, whether a document can even HAVE a YAML header
is dependent on extensions.  What would you do if the YAML header
said to disable the yaml_metadata extension?  You'd have a
paradoxical document!

All template variables can be set via YAML metadata, because the
writers populate variables from metadata values.

Command-line options can never be set via YAML metadata, in general,
though in some cases it may seem as if they can.  For example,
you can specify `toc: true`; but this only works in formats where
the only thing the `--toc` option has to do is set a `toc`
template variable.

Rather than adding a comment to the source with installation
instructions, I usually use a simple Makefile:

output.html: input.md
             pandoc $< -o $@ --my-options-here...

This way, I don't have to remember what options to use.
I just type 'make' and it's done.

Re: Options, extensions, variables : what can be specified in the YAML header of a Markdown file and what has to be on the command line ?

[Emmanuel Charpentier]

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That's what I was afraid of... No way to have the document self-consistent. 
(BTW: A YAML option turning YAML off could result in an error message, 
documenting the problem...).

Thanks anyway ; a quick and precise answer.

Back to the ol' drawing board...

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Emmanuel Charpentier

Le samedi 28 septembre 2019 20:14:43 UTC+2, John MacFarlane a écrit :
>
> Emmanuel Charpentier <emanuel.c...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org <javascript:>> writes: 
>
> > I wondered what part of the options, extensions and template variables 
> can 
> > be specified in the YAML header of a Markdown file, thus ensuring that 
> the 
> > "right" set of options is used at compilation. However, I have been 
> unable 
> > to find a description of what can be specified at command line. 
>
> It wouldn't make sense to put formats  and extensions in the YAML 
> header: after all, whether a document can even HAVE a YAML header 
> is dependent on extensions.  What would you do if the YAML header 
> said to disable the yaml_metadata extension?  You'd have a 
> paradoxical document! 
>
> All template variables can be set via YAML metadata, because the 
> writers populate variables from metadata values. 
>
> Command-line options can never be set via YAML metadata, in general, 
> though in some cases it may seem as if they can.  For example, 
> you can specify `toc: true`; but this only works in formats where 
> the only thing the `--toc` option has to do is set a `toc` 
> template variable. 
>
> Rather than adding a comment to the source with installation 
> instructions, I usually use a simple Makefile: 
>
> output.html: input.md 
>              pandoc $< -o $@ --my-options-here... 
>
> This way, I don't have to remember what options to use. 
> I just type 'make' and it's done. 
>
>

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Re: Options, extensions, variables : what can be specified in the YAML header of a Markdown file and what has to be on the command line ?

[John MacFarlane]

See also https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/4627
which lists several third-party wrappers that do what you want.

Emmanuel Charpentier <emanuel.charpentier-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:

> That's what I was afraid of... No way to have the document self-consistent. 
> (BTW: A YAML option turning YAML off could result in an error message, 
> documenting the problem...).
>
> Thanks anyway ; a quick and precise answer.
>
> Back to the ol' drawing board...
>
> --
> Emmanuel Charpentier
>
> Le samedi 28 septembre 2019 20:14:43 UTC+2, John MacFarlane a écrit :
>>
>> Emmanuel Charpentier <emanuel.c...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org <javascript:>> writes: 
>>
>> > I wondered what part of the options, extensions and template variables 
>> can 
>> > be specified in the YAML header of a Markdown file, thus ensuring that 
>> the 
>> > "right" set of options is used at compilation. However, I have been 
>> unable 
>> > to find a description of what can be specified at command line. 
>>
>> It wouldn't make sense to put formats  and extensions in the YAML 
>> header: after all, whether a document can even HAVE a YAML header 
>> is dependent on extensions.  What would you do if the YAML header 
>> said to disable the yaml_metadata extension?  You'd have a 
>> paradoxical document! 
>>
>> All template variables can be set via YAML metadata, because the 
>> writers populate variables from metadata values. 
>>
>> Command-line options can never be set via YAML metadata, in general, 
>> though in some cases it may seem as if they can.  For example, 
>> you can specify `toc: true`; but this only works in formats where 
>> the only thing the `--toc` option has to do is set a `toc` 
>> template variable. 
>>
>> Rather than adding a comment to the source with installation 
>> instructions, I usually use a simple Makefile: 
>>
>> output.html: input.md 
>>              pandoc $< -o $@ --my-options-here... 
>>
>> This way, I don't have to remember what options to use. 
>> I just type 'make' and it's done. 
>>
>>
>
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Re: Options, extensions, variables : what can be specified in the YAML header of a Markdown file and what has to be on the command line ?

[Axel Kielhorn]

> Am 28.09.2019 um 20:14 schrieb John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>:
> 
> Command-line options can never be set via YAML metadata, in general,
> though in some cases it may seem as if they can.  For example,
> you can specify `toc: true`; but this only works in formats where
> the only thing the `--toc` option has to do is set a `toc`
> template variable.
> 
> Rather than adding a comment to the source with installation
> instructions, I usually use a simple Makefile:
> 
> output.html: input.md
>             pandoc $< -o $@ --my-options-here…

On systems where I don’t have `make` I keep a separate file with the command lines.
Yes, plural, since I usually create HTML for a quick overview and something else for the final version.

Greetings form a Unix guy in Windows land.
Axel

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Re: Options, extensions, variables : what can be specified in the YAML header of a Markdown file and what has to be on the command line ?

[BPJ]

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Windows isn't necessarily a system without `make`:

http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/make.htm

It's a very long time since I had to use it though, so I don't know how
well it works these days.

Den sön 29 sep. 2019 08:24Axel Kielhorn <a.kielhorn-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:

>
> > Am 28.09.2019 um 20:14 schrieb John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>:
> >
> > Command-line options can never be set via YAML metadata, in general,
> > though in some cases it may seem as if they can.  For example,
> > you can specify `toc: true`; but this only works in formats where
> > the only thing the `--toc` option has to do is set a `toc`
> > template variable.
> >
> > Rather than adding a comment to the source with installation
> > instructions, I usually use a simple Makefile:
> >
> > output.html: input.md
> >             pandoc $< -o $@ --my-options-here…
>
> On systems where I don’t have `make` I keep a separate file with the
> command lines.
> Yes, plural, since I usually create HTML for a quick overview and
> something else for the final version.
>
> Greetings form a Unix guy in Windows land.
> Axel
>
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