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Mai 2022 um 23:36:08 UTC+2: > =20 > > Maybe it=E2=80=99s due to your item metadata : the language of the item i= s set to=20 > =C2=AB English =C2=BB. I don=E2=80=99t know if that works. Try againg wit= h =C2=AB en =C2=BB. > > ...the item metadata! Switching to "en" fixed the problem. I now realise = I=20 have some inconsistent fields in my Zotero database, and I happened to use= =20 one of them for my tests. In retrospect, this is obvious (and explains why= =20 "uppercase" and "lowercase" worked but "title" did not), but I was being=20 thrown off by it working fine when inserting directly via Zotero. I=20 wouldn't have thought of the item-metadata.=20 Thank you for your help and patience! =20 As to your other questions: > - why do you use a group on 89=E2=80=9391. There only one variable to re= nder so=20 > ne need for a group. > That was a remnant from an experiment of mine to solve the problem, which= =20 failed but the group tags remained. I will remove.=20 > - line 119 : don=E2=80=99t use hardcoded values for =C2=AB (ed.) =C2=BB. = there a dedicated=20 > label mechanism for that:=20 > https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/stable/specification.html#label-in-cs-= names > > =20 > This was, I believe, in the CSL file I used as my starting point. Thanks=20 for the tip, I will look into this.=20 I still have some issues to solve, but I thank you all for the help on=20 solving these. I feel like I'm (slowly, painfully...) learning something.= =20 Best, John --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. 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It was, i= n fact,...

denis...-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org schrieb am Mittwoch, 25.= Mai 2022 um 23:36:08 UTC+2:
 

Maybe it=E2=80=99s due to your = item metadata : the language of the item is set to =C2=AB English=  =C2=BB. I don=E2=80=99t know if that works. Try againg with =C2=AB&nb= sp;en =C2=BB.

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...the item metadata! Switching to "en" fixed the problem.= I now realise I have some inconsistent fields in my Zotero database, and I= happened to use one of them for my tests. In retrospect, this is obvious (= and explains why "uppercase" and "lowercase" worked but "title" did not), b= ut I was being thrown off by it working fine when inserting directly via Zo= tero. I wouldn't have thought of the item-metadata.

Thank you for your help and patience!
 
As to your other questions:

&nbs= p;- why do you use a group on 89=E2=80=9391. There only one variable to ren= der so ne need for a group.

That wa= s a remnant from an experiment of mine to solve the problem, which failed b= ut the group tags remained. I will remove.

- line 119 : don=E2=80=99t= use hardcoded values for =C2=AB (ed.) =C2=BB. there= a dedicated label mechanism for that: https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/stable/specification.html#label-in-cs-na= mes

 

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This was, I believe, in the CSL file I used a= s my starting point. Thanks for the tip, I will look into this.
<= div>
I still have some issues to solve, but I thank you all f= or the help on solving these. I feel like I'm (slowly, painfully...) learni= ng something.

Best,
John

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