Using short titles in subsequent citations

Using short titles in subsequent citations

[MK]

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Hi, I'm sure I must be doing something wrong, but I can't figure this out. 
I'd like for the first instance of a reference to use the first title and 
all subsequent instances to use a shortened title (whatever appears before 
the colon). So for example the first instance would be:

Jane Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good *(Place: Press, Year)

While the second should be:

Doe, *Some Book*

However, each time it reprints the entire title, so even on the second 
instance it would be: Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good.*

I'm using Chicago CSL and have tried both the one called 'full note, with 
ibid.' and 'full note, short title subsequent.' 

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[denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0]

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How do you supply your bibliographic references? A bibtex-file? CSL-JSON export from Zotero?

And, can you please show us a bit of your reference database. The most likely case is that you don’t have a shorttitle defined.

Denis

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Hi, I'm sure I must be doing something wrong, but I can't figure this out. I'd like for the first instance of a reference to use the first title and all subsequent instances to use a shortened title (whatever appears before the colon). So for example the first instance would be:

Jane Doe, Some Book: Which is Really Good (Place: Press, Year)

While the second should be:

Doe, Some Book

However, each time it reprints the entire title, so even on the second instance it would be: Doe, Some Book: Which is Really Good.

I'm using Chicago CSL and have tried both the one called 'full note, with ibid.' and 'full note, short title subsequent.'
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Re: Using short titles in subsequent citations

[MK]

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I use a bibtex file, and you are correct, I don't have any short titles 
specified. But I was under the impression that bibtex/pandoc would 
automatically shorten titles so that the short title is whatever appears 
before the colon--is this not correct?

A reference might look like this:

@Book{somekey,

author = {Doe, Jane}, 

title = {{This is a title: with a subtitle}}, 

publisher = {Yale University Press}, 

address = {New Haven}, 

year = {year}, 



On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 7:41:42 AM UTC-5 denis...-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org wrote:

> How do you supply your bibliographic references? A bibtex-file? CSL-JSON 
> export from Zotero?
>
>  
>
> And, can you please show us a bit of your reference database. The most 
> likely case is that you don’t have a shorttitle defined.
>
>  
>
> Denis
>
>  
>
> *Von:* pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> *Im 
> Auftrag von *MK
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 27. Juli 2021 16:18
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> *Betreff:* Using short titles in subsequent citations
>
>  
>
> Hi, I'm sure I must be doing something wrong, but I can't figure this out. 
> I'd like for the first instance of a reference to use the first title and 
> all subsequent instances to use a shortened title (whatever appears before 
> the colon). So for example the first instance would be:
>
>  
>
> Jane Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good *(Place: Press, Year)
>
>  
>
> While the second should be:
>
>  
>
> Doe, *Some Book*
>
>  
>
> However, each time it reprints the entire title, so even on the second 
> instance it would be: Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good.*
>
>  
>
> I'm using Chicago CSL and have tried both the one called 'full note, with 
> ibid.' and 'full note, short title subsequent.' 
>
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I use a bibtex file, and you are correct, I don't have any short titles specified. But I was under the impression that bibtex/pandoc would automatically shorten titles so that the short title is whatever appears before the colon--is this not correct?

Looks like it doesn’t.


A reference might look like this:


@Book{somekey,

author = {Doe, Jane},

title = {{This is a title: with a subtitle}},

publisher = {Yale University Press},

address = {New Haven},

year = {year},



How do you prepare your bibtex file ? Manually ? Or do you use a reference management tool ? Anyway, what you can do is this :
@Book{somekey,
author = {Doe, Jane},
title = {{This is a title: with a subtitle}},
shorttitle = {This is a title},
publisher = {Yale University Press},
address = {New Haven},
year = {year},
}

or this:

@Book{somekey,
author = {Doe, Jane},
title = {{This is a title}},
subtitle = {with a subtitle title},
publisher = {Yale University Press},
address = {New Haven},
year = {year},
}

or even,
@Book{somekey,
author = {Doe, Jane},
title = {{This is a title}},
subtitle = {with a subtitle title},
shorttitle = {title},
publisher = {Yale University Press},
address = {New Haven},
year = {year},
}

Denis






On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 7:41:42 AM UTC-5 denis...-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org<mailto:denis...-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> wrote:
How do you supply your bibliographic references? A bibtex-file? CSL-JSON export from Zotero?

And, can you please show us a bit of your reference database. The most likely case is that you don’t have a shorttitle defined.

Denis

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Hi, I'm sure I must be doing something wrong, but I can't figure this out. I'd like for the first instance of a reference to use the first title and all subsequent instances to use a shortened title (whatever appears before the colon). So for example the first instance would be:

Jane Doe, Some Book: Which is Really Good (Place: Press, Year)

While the second should be:

Doe, Some Book

However, each time it reprints the entire title, so even on the second instance it would be: Doe, Some Book: Which is Really Good.

I'm using Chicago CSL and have tried both the one called 'full note, with ibid.' and 'full note, short title subsequent.'
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Re: Using short titles in subsequent citations

[John MacFarlane]

Do you have a 'short-title' field in your CSL bibliography for this
entry?

MK <mendelkranz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:

> Hi, I'm sure I must be doing something wrong, but I can't figure this out. 
> I'd like for the first instance of a reference to use the first title and 
> all subsequent instances to use a shortened title (whatever appears before 
> the colon). So for example the first instance would be:
>
> Jane Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good *(Place: Press, Year)
>
> While the second should be:
>
> Doe, *Some Book*
>
> However, each time it reprints the entire title, so even on the second 
> instance it would be: Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good.*
>
> I'm using Chicago CSL and have tried both the one called 'full note, with 
> ibid.' and 'full note, short title subsequent.' 
>
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Re: Using short titles in subsequent citations

[MK]

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You can see in the bibliographic entry that I posted (and below) that 
there's no short title field; however is there something in the CSL file 
itself that would generate short titles? Or is specifying a short title in 
the bibtex file necessary? 

@Book{somekey,

author = {Doe, Jane}, 

title = {{This is a title: with a subtitle}}, 

publisher = {Yale University Press}, 

address = {New Haven}, 

year = {year}, 


On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 4:55:36 PM UTC-5 John MacFarlane wrote:

>
> Do you have a 'short-title' field in your CSL bibliography for this
> entry?
>
> MK <mende...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> > Hi, I'm sure I must be doing something wrong, but I can't figure this 
> out. 
> > I'd like for the first instance of a reference to use the first title 
> and 
> > all subsequent instances to use a shortened title (whatever appears 
> before 
> > the colon). So for example the first instance would be:
> >
> > Jane Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good *(Place: Press, Year)
> >
> > While the second should be:
> >
> > Doe, *Some Book*
> >
> > However, each time it reprints the entire title, so even on the second 
> > instance it would be: Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good.*
> >
> > I'm using Chicago CSL and have tried both the one called 'full note, 
> with 
> > ibid.' and 'full note, short title subsequent.' 
> >
> > -- 
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Re: Using short titles in subsequent citations

[John MacFarlane]

Normally pandoc will try to extract a short-title from the
title field of a bibtex entry by splitting on the colon.
But this is being blocked in this case because you have
put the whole title in an extra set of braces.

Try with

 title = {This is a title: with a subtitle},


MK <mendelkranz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:

> You can see in the bibliographic entry that I posted (and below) that 
> there's no short title field; however is there something in the CSL file 
> itself that would generate short titles? Or is specifying a short title in 
> the bibtex file necessary? 
>
> @Book{somekey,
>
> author = {Doe, Jane}, 
>
> title = {{This is a title: with a subtitle}}, 
>
> publisher = {Yale University Press}, 
>
> address = {New Haven}, 
>
> year = {year}, 
>
>
> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 4:55:36 PM UTC-5 John MacFarlane wrote:
>
>>
>> Do you have a 'short-title' field in your CSL bibliography for this
>> entry?
>>
>> MK <mende...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>> > Hi, I'm sure I must be doing something wrong, but I can't figure this 
>> out. 
>> > I'd like for the first instance of a reference to use the first title 
>> and 
>> > all subsequent instances to use a shortened title (whatever appears 
>> before 
>> > the colon). So for example the first instance would be:
>> >
>> > Jane Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good *(Place: Press, Year)
>> >
>> > While the second should be:
>> >
>> > Doe, *Some Book*
>> >
>> > However, each time it reprints the entire title, so even on the second 
>> > instance it would be: Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good.*
>> >
>> > I'm using Chicago CSL and have tried both the one called 'full note, 
>> with 
>> > ibid.' and 'full note, short title subsequent.' 
>> >
>> > -- 
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Re: Using short titles in subsequent citations

[MK]

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I see! That solved it!
However, I included the double braces because I have quite a few foreign 
language titles, and when generating the final document, it would transform 
the titles using titlecase. So *Ceci est un livre* would become *Ceci Est 
Un Livre*—which is incorrect. Is there another way to stop it from doing 
this? 

On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 11:23:22 AM UTC-5 John MacFarlane wrote:

>
> Normally pandoc will try to extract a short-title from the
> title field of a bibtex entry by splitting on the colon.
> But this is being blocked in this case because you have
> put the whole title in an extra set of braces.
>
> Try with
>
> title = {This is a title: with a subtitle},
>
>
> MK <mende...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> > You can see in the bibliographic entry that I posted (and below) that 
> > there's no short title field; however is there something in the CSL file 
> > itself that would generate short titles? Or is specifying a short title 
> in 
> > the bibtex file necessary? 
> >
> > @Book{somekey,
> >
> > author = {Doe, Jane}, 
> >
> > title = {{This is a title: with a subtitle}}, 
> >
> > publisher = {Yale University Press}, 
> >
> > address = {New Haven}, 
> >
> > year = {year}, 
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 4:55:36 PM UTC-5 John MacFarlane wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Do you have a 'short-title' field in your CSL bibliography for this
> >> entry?
> >>
> >> MK <mende...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
> >>
> >> > Hi, I'm sure I must be doing something wrong, but I can't figure this 
> >> out. 
> >> > I'd like for the first instance of a reference to use the first title 
> >> and 
> >> > all subsequent instances to use a shortened title (whatever appears 
> >> before 
> >> > the colon). So for example the first instance would be:
> >> >
> >> > Jane Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good *(Place: Press, Year)
> >> >
> >> > While the second should be:
> >> >
> >> > Doe, *Some Book*
> >> >
> >> > However, each time it reprints the entire title, so even on the 
> second 
> >> > instance it would be: Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good.*
> >> >
> >> > I'm using Chicago CSL and have tried both the one called 'full note, 
> >> with 
> >> > ibid.' and 'full note, short title subsequent.' 
> >> >
> >> > -- 
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> >> 
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AW: Using short titles in subsequent citations

[denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0]

https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#capitalization-in-titles

So, `langid={french}` should do the job.

FWIW, I think an empty langid/lang field should prevent title casing as well. Or am I misunderstanding the documentation here?
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Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Juli 2021 18:55:37
An: pandoc-discuss
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I see! That solved it!
However, I included the double braces because I have quite a few foreign language titles, and when generating the final document, it would transform the titles using titlecase. So Ceci est un livre would become Ceci Est Un Livre—which is incorrect. Is there another way to stop it from doing this?

On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 11:23:22 AM UTC-5 John MacFarlane wrote:

Normally pandoc will try to extract a short-title from the
title field of a bibtex entry by splitting on the colon.
But this is being blocked in this case because you have
put the whole title in an extra set of braces.

Try with

title = {This is a title: with a subtitle},


MK <mende...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:

> You can see in the bibliographic entry that I posted (and below) that
> there's no short title field; however is there something in the CSL file
> itself that would generate short titles? Or is specifying a short title in
> the bibtex file necessary?
>
> @Book{somekey,
>
> author = {Doe, Jane},
>
> title = {{This is a title: with a subtitle}},
>
> publisher = {Yale University Press},
>
> address = {New Haven},
>
> year = {year},
>
>
> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 4:55:36 PM UTC-5 John MacFarlane wrote:
>
>>
>> Do you have a 'short-title' field in your CSL bibliography for this
>> entry?
>>
>> MK <mende...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>> > Hi, I'm sure I must be doing something wrong, but I can't figure this
>> out.
>> > I'd like for the first instance of a reference to use the first title
>> and
>> > all subsequent instances to use a shortened title (whatever appears
>> before
>> > the colon). So for example the first instance would be:
>> >
>> > Jane Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good *(Place: Press, Year)
>> >
>> > While the second should be:
>> >
>> > Doe, *Some Book*
>> >
>> > However, each time it reprints the entire title, so even on the second
>> > instance it would be: Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good.*
>> >
>> > I'm using Chicago CSL and have tried both the one called 'full note,
>> with
>> > ibid.' and 'full note, short title subsequent.'
>> >
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Re: Using short titles in subsequent citations

[John MacFarlane]

You could try:

   title = {{This is a title}: {with a subtitle}}

MK <mendelkranz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:

> I see! That solved it!
> However, I included the double braces because I have quite a few foreign 
> language titles, and when generating the final document, it would transform 
> the titles using titlecase. So *Ceci est un livre* would become *Ceci Est 
> Un Livre*—which is incorrect. Is there another way to stop it from doing 
> this? 
>
> On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 11:23:22 AM UTC-5 John MacFarlane wrote:
>
>>
>> Normally pandoc will try to extract a short-title from the
>> title field of a bibtex entry by splitting on the colon.
>> But this is being blocked in this case because you have
>> put the whole title in an extra set of braces.
>>
>> Try with
>>
>> title = {This is a title: with a subtitle},
>>
>>
>> MK <mende...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>> > You can see in the bibliographic entry that I posted (and below) that 
>> > there's no short title field; however is there something in the CSL file 
>> > itself that would generate short titles? Or is specifying a short title 
>> in 
>> > the bibtex file necessary? 
>> >
>> > @Book{somekey,
>> >
>> > author = {Doe, Jane}, 
>> >
>> > title = {{This is a title: with a subtitle}}, 
>> >
>> > publisher = {Yale University Press}, 
>> >
>> > address = {New Haven}, 
>> >
>> > year = {year}, 
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 4:55:36 PM UTC-5 John MacFarlane wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Do you have a 'short-title' field in your CSL bibliography for this
>> >> entry?
>> >>
>> >> MK <mende...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi, I'm sure I must be doing something wrong, but I can't figure this 
>> >> out. 
>> >> > I'd like for the first instance of a reference to use the first title 
>> >> and 
>> >> > all subsequent instances to use a shortened title (whatever appears 
>> >> before 
>> >> > the colon). So for example the first instance would be:
>> >> >
>> >> > Jane Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good *(Place: Press, Year)
>> >> >
>> >> > While the second should be:
>> >> >
>> >> > Doe, *Some Book*
>> >> >
>> >> > However, each time it reprints the entire title, so even on the 
>> second 
>> >> > instance it would be: Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good.*
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm using Chicago CSL and have tried both the one called 'full note, 
>> >> with 
>> >> > ibid.' and 'full note, short title subsequent.' 
>> >> >
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AW: Using short titles in subsequent citations

[denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0]

That's a nice new feature that should be documented. How do you prevent false positives?
Will this work:
```
title = {A title{:} without a subtitle},
```

Will it split on other characters as well?
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Betreff: Re: Using short titles in subsequent citations

Normally pandoc will try to extract a short-title from the
title field of a bibtex entry by splitting on the colon.
But this is being blocked in this case because you have
put the whole title in an extra set of braces.

Try with

 title = {This is a title: with a subtitle},


MK <mendelkranz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:

> You can see in the bibliographic entry that I posted (and below) that
> there's no short title field; however is there something in the CSL file
> itself that would generate short titles? Or is specifying a short title in
> the bibtex file necessary?
>
> @Book{somekey,
>
> author = {Doe, Jane},
>
> title = {{This is a title: with a subtitle}},
>
> publisher = {Yale University Press},
>
> address = {New Haven},
>
> year = {year},
>
>
> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 4:55:36 PM UTC-5 John MacFarlane wrote:
>
>>
>> Do you have a 'short-title' field in your CSL bibliography for this
>> entry?
>>
>> MK <mende...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>> > Hi, I'm sure I must be doing something wrong, but I can't figure this
>> out.
>> > I'd like for the first instance of a reference to use the first title
>> and
>> > all subsequent instances to use a shortened title (whatever appears
>> before
>> > the colon). So for example the first instance would be:
>> >
>> > Jane Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good *(Place: Press, Year)
>> >
>> > While the second should be:
>> >
>> > Doe, *Some Book*
>> >
>> > However, each time it reprints the entire title, so even on the second
>> > instance it would be: Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good.*
>> >
>> > I'm using Chicago CSL and have tried both the one called 'full note,
>> with
>> > ibid.' and 'full note, short title subsequent.'
>> >
>> > --
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>>
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