From: "philmac-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA@public.gmane.org" <philmac-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Turn off headers for Mac OS clipboard content output in HTML?
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 08:19:29 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
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Thank you for your assistance! Indeed, I misread the situation, though the
outcome is still strange. The HTML I am starting with in my clipboard is a
complete document with a doctype declaration. The first line is:
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
Pandoc (pandoc -t html+smart) converts the angle brackets into HTML entity
names:
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC “-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN”
“http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd”>
Later on in my process, the content gets converted to RTF using textutil,
which removes doctype declarations but retains the line above, converting
the entity names back into angle brackets—which is how I got the idea that
Pandoc had put it there.
I am not sure why my Pandoc command converts the angle brackets in that
first line—it leaves the other angle brackets in the document alone—but I
can just remove that line from the clipboard text before processing it with
Pandoc, so no problem.
On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 10:48:46 AM UTC-5 tkur...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
> When standalone is not specified, pandoc typically outputs fragments
> rather than a complete document. This is convenient for the case where you
> are processing multiple fragments into one document. (This happens in HTML
> output but also in other output; groff -ms, ConTeXt, LaTeX.) So normal
> HTML output I see when I don't specify standalone does *not* include the
> doctype.
>
> $ echo '* Bogus' | pandoc -r rst -w html
> <ul>
> <li>Bogus</li>
> </ul>
>
> This is with pandoc 2.16.2, installed with homebrew.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 9:33 AM Joseph Reagle <josep...-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> The doctype declaration is a standard HTML feature and declares the
>> version of the HTML. Pandoc, especially in `--standalone` mode includes
>> these at the start of an HTML document.
>>
>> I'm confused, however. You haven't specified standalone mode. (And why
>> would you want them removed in any case?) And the behavior you are
>> describing doesn't correspond to recent versions -- I'm using 2.16.2. I'm
>> not sure when/if pandoc last used HTML4.01 strict.
>>
>> In any case, you could create your own HTML template, without a doctype
>> declaration.
>>
>> https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#templates
>>
>> On 21-12-27 15:04, phi...-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA@public.gmane.org wrote:
>> > I am using Pandoc to convert dumb quotes to smart quotes in HTML. The
>> HTML is on my MacOS clipboard:
>> >
>> > pbpaste | pandoc -t html+smart | pbcopy
>> >
>> > The output begins with
>> >
>> > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC “-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN” “
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd”>
>> >
>> > and a blank line.
>> >
>> > Is it possible to turn this off?
>>
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> T. Kurt Bond, tkur...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org, https://tkurtbond.github.io
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2021-12-27 20:04 philmac-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA
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2021-12-28 14:33 ` Joseph Reagle
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2021-12-28 15:48 ` T. Kurt Bond
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2021-12-28 16:24 ` jeremy theler
2021-12-28 16:26 ` T. Kurt Bond
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2021-12-28 16:32 ` philmac-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA
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2021-12-28 16:38 ` T. Kurt Bond
2021-12-29 19:23 ` John MacFarlane
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