Re: pandoc/citeproc issues: multiple bibliographies, nocite, citeonly

[Bruce <bdarcus.lists-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>]

On Nov 23, 5:04 am, Nathan Gass <xa...-8UOIJiGH10pyDzI6CaY1VQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On 23.11.10 07:30, John MacFarlane wrote:
>
> > +++ Andrea Rossato [Nov 23 10 00:21 ]:
> >> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:32:29AM -0800, John MacFarlane wrote:
>
> >> What about parsing the markdown text for the reference field, if
> >> present read the source file with the bibliographic data and then
> >> parse the actual markdown text?
>
> > This could be done, but there'd be a significant performance
> > penalty, so I'd rather avoid it.
>
> Do you have any benchmarks for pandoc? Performance seems to be a very
> important concern for you, while in my usage it never was an issue. Of
> course I neither have large documents to parse nor use pandoc in any
> high-traffic web environment, but I would be interested in which region
> pandoc currently is and how big this penalties are compared to that.
>
> >> There would be also some specific needs for bibliographic formatting
> >> to be taken into account, like second field alignment or per-author
> >> listing. See more about it here:
> >>http://citationstyles.org/downloads/specification.html#id73
>
> >> I must admit I didn't have yet the time to dig into those issues and
> >> I'd prefer to leave them for future enhancements. I think we should
> >> focus on getting the citation part right, first, since it involves
> >> syntax modification. The bibliography, instead, is a matter which does
> >> not affect the way documents are written.
>
> > Yes, it seems fine to wait on refining the formatting of the
> > bibliography. But we ought to settle the issues above about how
> > a writer indicates where the bibliography goes, what its source
> > is, etc.
>
> For whats it worth, in my opinion the formatting of the bibliography
> belongs into the style, or some separate pandoc configuration, and not
> in the document itself.

FWIW from the CSL perspective, there are some areas over overlap
between the domain of CSL and the domain of, say, a document styling
system (line-spacing, some font details, even whether you call a
reference list a "Bibliography" or "Works Cited"). We cover what we
can (say line spacing between bib entries), but defer otherwise.

As a user of pandoc particularly interested in(X)HTML, I'd consider it
valuable at least if the bib was wrapped in a div that I can style.

Bruce

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