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From: Kolen Cheung <christian.kolen-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: Designing Logo of Pandoc
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 14:05:28 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
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On Saturday, January 18, 2020 at 3:53:13 PM UTC-8, John MacFarlane wrote:
>
>
> I'm really not sure what to say:  people here seem to want 
> a logo much more than I do, so I feel a lot of pressure. 
> But since I don't think we NEED a logo, I'm not going to go 
> to go for one unless it really looks right. 
>

For me I don't think I need a pandoc logo. But as someone who loves pandoc 
and want other people to use pandoc too, a logo is good PR. I think most 
people here probably think this way, as a logo really is for promotion, for 
public recognition. There's many kinds of things we want to improve pandoc, 
and one kind is basically to make other people use it so that I can keep 
using it. (e.g. why someone want to make pandoc documents more reproducible 
is that if so it makes it possible to collaborate using pandoc and hence 
one can stay using pandoc when collaborating, to over-simplify the issue.)

>
> I actually think this one by Alexis is pretty nice, though 
> now it has been accused of amateurism. Well, I'm not a graphic 
> designer, so I wouldn't know. But I like it better than the other 
> proposals of reverse pilcrows in boxes. 
>

I don't think it is as negative as those wordings appears to be. The chain 
of thoughts in those conversations above (if I interpret correctly) was 
that we weren't designers so we hit a creativity wall. Recall we almost had 
a decision years ago that when it came to the design stage (after having 5 
good candidates from concepts only), but then we hit a roadblock that no 
one can turn those nice concepts into presentable logo. IMO the one from 
Alexis is good enough to use as is. It is not only a good concept but a 
deliverable product. (Yes it can be improved but it is publishable as is, 
and over time when someone has the talent and time to improve we should 
allow room for that.)

So IMO if that's the one you like, then why not. Sure different people has 
slightly different preferences and may have our own philosophical biases. 
But I don't think anyone hate that logo. It is more a matter of can we do 
better. But if the most important opinion here thinks that's better then I 
don't think you'd have strong opposition since it is not bad.
 

>
> I do think that it makes sense, if we have a logo, to have 
> the canonical version be a particular vector image, and not 
> just, say, a reverse pilcrow typeset any old way. That's not a 
> logo, it's just a symbol. 
>

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Thread overview: 217+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-16  1:44 Yuki Fujiwara
     [not found] ` <etPan.55cfeb02.58da7599.2a4-Ihz+wwlkVrpYcD0sb2hCuo2P0GrZ+RbP@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-16  5:39   ` Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
     [not found]     ` <CA+u6gbw+r6eAxdvu35oQO1WKOFkoKQKhoCK=64P_hTeQybXYxw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-16 14:15       ` John MacFarlane
2015-08-22 21:59       ` Yuki Fujiwara
2015-08-16 17:56   ` kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg
     [not found]     ` <12b8f09a-d54d-4a18-9399-1470375a6229-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-16 18:01       ` kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg
     [not found]         ` <4c7820be-d8a9-4293-a7ab-319f11788983-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-16 18:41           ` Daniel Staal
2015-08-16 19:03             ` Nick Moffitt
     [not found]               ` <20150816190327.GI5638-iTLVOByc1N8@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-16 19:33                 ` Stefan Björk
     [not found]                   ` <CABsBQU5SAAm61in1+qPXst4u3t0QS6nRqFiOXJTnQPHgPhJEDw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-19 11:00                     ` BP Jonsson
     [not found]                       ` <55D461E5.9080609-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-19 15:05                         ` Paulo Ney de Souza
2015-08-19 21:30                     ` John Muccigrosso
2017-01-07 20:12                     ` Steve
     [not found]                       ` <b33c4724-4936-4aec-8e4e-822d59f685c0-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-07 21:06                         ` Kolen Cheung
2015-08-17 19:10                 ` Marc Chantreux
     [not found]                   ` <20150817191054.GA26303-9qZop888ifDf0CSBMQ/kQGaNMrwwXFdU@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-22  0:01                     ` Luis Rivera
2015-08-22 22:25   ` Yuki Fujiwara
     [not found]     ` <67197fa2-a829-4bb2-a038-4d3c0c991a44-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 10:47       ` kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg
2015-10-31 19:45   ` Albert Krewinkel
     [not found]     ` <d0dff92a-f64c-4106-8b3e-f9a19cfe1e32-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-01 19:40       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]         ` <20151101194033.GC18654-9Rnp8PDaXcadBw3G0RLmbRFnWt+6NQIA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-01 20:38           ` Nick Moffitt
2015-11-01 22:17           ` Albert Krewinkel
     [not found]             ` <3298337b-6214-4927-bca7-d33ccddca3fa-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-08 10:56               ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                 ` <f5886324-f028-4905-a23c-33b33a917fd8-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-08 12:31                   ` Joost Kremers
     [not found]                     ` <87shpywqjj.fsf-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-08 12:56                       ` Kolen Cheung
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2016-12-08 13:29                           ` BP Jonsson
2016-12-08 12:58                       ` John MacFarlane
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2016-12-08 14:23                           ` Kolen Cheung
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2016-12-08 14:55                               ` John Gabriele
2016-12-08 15:05                               ` BP Jonsson
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2016-12-08 19:40                                   ` John MacFarlane
2016-12-08 23:02                                   ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                     ` <844cf7bd-c9f1-49e0-a1fd-81a827c9c667-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-09  2:26                                       ` Luis Rivera
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2016-12-09  4:14                                           ` John Muccigrosso
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2016-12-09  6:12                                               ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                                 ` <38299009-1073-4d30-9d44-aab7a3acfe0d-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-09 10:36                                                   ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                                     ` <24a06409-1b8d-4d5b-9148-8635e28742ab-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-09 10:37                                                       ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                                         ` <fdfd9c0f-8205-4174-a3e6-5e0c8f144c52-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-09 10:38                                                           ` Kolen Cheung
2016-12-09 17:41                                                   ` daniel
2016-12-09  5:53                                           ` Kolen Cheung
2016-12-09 10:54                                           ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                             ` <20161209105407.GB96950-BKjuZOBx5Kn2N3qrpRCZGbhGAdq7xJNKhPhL2mjWHbk@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-09 18:43                                               ` Sergio Correia
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2016-12-13 17:55                                                   ` BP Jonsson
     [not found]                                                     ` <ee15684d-fc1c-068c-055e-ea0d750e2260-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-13 19:58                                                       ` BP Jonsson
     [not found]                                                         ` <4f2fea29-9e58-a79a-0c49-1612844d5fa1-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-13 20:12                                                           ` BP Jonsson
     [not found]                                                             ` <5bba1098-d1c9-9d7e-0fbb-3914abd93364-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-13 21:18                                                               ` Alexis BRENON
2016-12-13 21:44                                                               ` Joseph Reagle
     [not found]                                                                 ` <94f82118-1686-e519-e21d-ba4ca64028c7-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-14 16:14                                                                   ` Melroch
2016-12-13 23:29                                                               ` Albert Krewinkel
     [not found]                                                                 ` <87zijzpfw0.fsf-NJ6QtbQ9hATDZamjJ9D3v6C1jgCzLlUE@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-14  0:14                                                                   ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                                                     ` <8f87b3f6-41d0-47d7-a6fe-117892a30c46-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-14 16:45                                                                       ` Melroch
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2016-12-15  0:40                                                                           ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                                                             ` <30f01b4c-8b2c-481a-96f9-dfd0ba37e71a-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-15 23:55                                                                               ` BP Jonsson
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <29dbdf52-294b-b6a9-b598-ea742b5d4afb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-16 15:39                                                                                   ` BP Jonsson
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2016-12-16 21:01                                                                                       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                                                                         ` <20161216210120.GC15292-l/d5Ua9yGnxXsXJlQylH7w@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-16 22:02                                                                                           ` BP Jonsson
     [not found]                                                                                             ` <a854ab0e-2a1f-a80a-4dd6-f092cea6e0fb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-16 22:38                                                                                               ` Kolen Cheung
2016-12-14 16:15                                                                   ` Melroch
2016-12-15 16:18                                                           ` John Muccigrosso
2016-12-09 19:28                                               ` Pablo Rodríguez
     [not found]                                                 ` <5d6be2ec-d1af-ed34-fe76-0ef5ffce089d-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-09 19:57                                                   ` Joseph Reagle
     [not found]                                                     ` <1783aa7d-e28c-d31a-bd59-b1b02ff8c69c-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-09 20:12                                                       ` Pablo Rodríguez
     [not found]                                                         ` <aa540d76-855a-afd2-7d40-cc2372b447b2-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-10  2:22                                                           ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                                             ` <22c7ff6d-b21a-4bbc-a2bb-91ab9ad49160-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-10  2:46                                                               ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                                                 ` <769669f7-26ab-468a-95ee-32cbacbda114-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-10  9:40                                                                   ` Alexis BRENON
     [not found]                                                                     ` <e18cd205-7f78-4fc4-892c-c6a90f4cf53c-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-10 10:04                                                                       ` Joost Kremers
2016-12-10 18:17                                                                       ` John Muccigrosso
     [not found]                                                                         ` <20764ad5-2765-4027-82d9-c7aff7d9cb3f-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-13 14:39                                                                           ` Nick Moffitt
2016-12-09  2:08                           ` Kolen Cheung
2016-12-20 18:14                           ` Albert Krewinkel
     [not found]                             ` <87oa06o4cn.fsf-NJ6QtbQ9hATDZamjJ9D3v6C1jgCzLlUE@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-20 18:50                               ` Albert Krewinkel
2018-11-08  2:19                           ` JM Marcastel
     [not found]                             ` <bfa26148-1361-4163-9bfa-bec61a672509-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-12 16:29                               ` 藤原由来
     [not found]                                 ` <CAA4xQM=VJ387efX_6+AKXkNAi1uH6Dmm0KFaEARRiH4v6ZFHhw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-04  3:29                                   ` allefeld
     [not found]                                     ` <3e112309-c0ce-4e03-9e69-571a688d9bf7-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-04  4:41                                       ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                         ` <c5eb6b62-8a6b-4e3c-9f15-1810f90bc4c4-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-04  8:58                                           ` Philip Hodder
2019-12-04 16:58                                           ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                             ` <m2lfrs9gec.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-04 19:44                                               ` allefeld
     [not found]                                                 ` <64f818e0-2e65-4ad5-80c8-35fa8d474037-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-04 19:54                                                   ` allefeld
     [not found]                                                     ` <757085d5-3ad7-4392-b2d2-2e7f793db493-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-05  3:30                                                       ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                                         ` <a28791eb-2ff1-4cf0-854f-28dc476dd523-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-05 19:14                                                           ` allefeld
     [not found]                                                             ` <04c5fa73-bd6d-460c-bfde-26b92549c6a5-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-06 19:42                                                               ` John Gabriele
     [not found]                                                                 ` <c110822a-9574-4d21-9867-9b2b08914349-jFIJ+Wc5/Vo7lZ9V/NTDHw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-06 21:16                                                                   ` allefeld
     [not found]                                                                     ` <c8da095d-24d7-497b-a308-f1c9e37a8ee0-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-07 20:28                                                                       ` Benct Philip Jonsson
     [not found]                                                                         ` <2f0b25a7-06ec-8823-4f80-e62be3b65fe8-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-08  1:23                                                                           ` allefeld
     [not found]                                                         ` <CADAJKhB7ypoBR9PPWNwt1w+h02ZqxNpDsudam1dUrr_XiGGHBg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                                           ` <CADAJKhB7ypoBR9PPWNwt1w+h02ZqxNpDsudam1dUrr_XiGGHBg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-07 20:32                                                             ` Benct Philip Jonsson
     [not found]                                                               ` <d8e2a245-57b6-148d-971f-5ac0c0d295fd-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-08  0:00                                                                 ` Kolen Cheung
2019-12-09 19:58                                                                 ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                                                   ` <m2pngxl19f.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-10  0:04                                                                     ` BPJ
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2019-12-10 23:55                                                                         ` allefeld
     [not found]                                                                           ` <0c61fe0c-369d-4dec-b4b6-f071568a4b6a-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-11  9:15                                                                             ` Philip Hodder
     [not found]                                                                               ` <18b18568-f46d-4d25-8e58-8d5532a9c8d7-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-11  9:33                                                                                 ` Alexis BRENON
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2019-12-11 18:47                                                                                     ` Corentin Dupont
2019-12-11 19:40                                                                                       ` allefeld
     [not found]                                                                                         ` <896fb15a-b404-4ae2-a3df-e4314f08363d-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-11 19:57                                                                                           ` John Gabriele
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2019-12-11 20:59                                                                                               ` thoger.emil
2019-12-11 20:36                                                                                           ` Daniel Staal
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2019-12-11 22:02                                                                                               ` John MacFarlane
2019-12-11 22:14                                                                                               ` allefeld
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2019-12-11 22:19                                                                                                   ` allefeld
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2019-12-12  7:12                                                                                                       ` Alexis BRENON
2019-12-04  9:01                                       ` Philip Hodder
2019-12-04 20:53                                       ` Joseph Reagle
2019-12-04 21:37                                       ` Albert Krewinkel
2016-12-11 13:36                   ` Yuki Fujiwara
2015-11-01 22:16       ` kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg
2016-12-10  2:14   ` Kolen Cheung
2016-12-10 18:50   ` 'Insane' via pandoc-discuss
     [not found]     ` <32ba2c95-f93b-4f87-8cba-0743d6fd2450-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-10 19:21       ` daniel
2016-12-10 19:55   ` 'Insane' via pandoc-discuss
     [not found]     ` <5fc2c9e6-efd8-4a8a-b88f-aaf873fe6532-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-10 21:55       ` Alexis BRENON
     [not found]         ` <CAJPB9o0MsxxCUBzXJWLU_yf1ja9-V3tNbTfgcyYBbOJRf4BE_w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-10 23:36           ` 'Insane' via pandoc-discuss
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2016-12-11  0:27               ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                 ` <fcb79633-81cf-4d08-87ce-1b7f252ce644-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-11 12:48                   ` 'Insane' via pandoc-discuss
2016-12-11  4:13       ` John Muccigrosso
2016-12-12 14:37   ` Alexis BRENON
2016-12-12 15:45   ` Albert Krewinkel
     [not found]     ` <fe4ad20e-583b-40da-b98e-62e6f09b82e0-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-13 13:03       ` Thøger Emil Rivera-Thorsen
2016-12-24  9:25   ` Scott Koga-Browes
     [not found]     ` <cece377d-69ca-4470-a937-6b5bc0c99711-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-24 10:19       ` BP Jonsson
     [not found]         ` <CAFC_yuRsHjxH8os4Dof-StpMyaPihUYNrz_JX-8LWO1jbxQoMg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-24 11:37           ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]             ` <CAFC_yuQFd99YRtvNPXgwMJiJ3=YSVfMZ6zRw1Sb7_ZXyhczzsg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <CAFC_yuQFd99YRtvNPXgwMJiJ3=YSVfMZ6zRw1Sb7_ZXyhczzsg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-24 13:37                 ` BP Jonsson
2016-12-24  9:32   ` Scott Koga-Browes
     [not found]     ` <ec79156b-4ac1-45ae-8cf5-34cef66517fb-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-24  9:41       ` Kolen Cheung
2016-12-24 18:51   ` John Muccigrosso
2016-12-24 19:56   ` Tristano Ajmone
     [not found]     ` <19578491-59c9-4c3a-b32e-6930895c35e3-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-24 22:23       ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]         ` <c8c4dad6-71bd-478f-88ff-d73b81a6f6c1-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-24 23:22           ` Thøger Emil Rivera-Thorsen
     [not found]             ` <a73d8dd4-12a6-ae18-a197-42a36e658d2e-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-25  1:43               ` Kolen Cheung
2016-12-25 11:21           ` Tristano Ajmone
2016-12-25 13:04   ` Tristano Ajmone
     [not found]     ` <b4138da6-e959-46f2-a55d-11e204f4539c-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19  6:03       ` 藤原由来
2017-01-19  8:03         ` Albert Krewinkel
     [not found]           ` <87d1fjbhng.fsf-NJ6QtbQ9hATDZamjJ9D3v6C1jgCzLlUE@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19  8:47             ` Sergio Correia
     [not found]               ` <dea3f868-3f9c-496e-8d20-5471582f88cb-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19 11:00                 ` BP Jonsson
2017-01-19 11:22                 ` BP Jonsson
2017-01-19 17:09                 ` Kolen Cheung
2017-01-19 19:09                 ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                   ` <8f9805be-9ec0-4808-8e82-efecf8f0b813-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19 22:14                     ` Sergio Correia
     [not found]                       ` <144500db-fdc8-44fe-99b9-6dab9f85b41a-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20  3:08                         ` Kolen Cheung
2017-01-20  8:44                     ` Alexis BRENON
2017-01-07 21:01   ` Kolen Cheung
2017-01-20  4:34   ` John Muccigrosso
     [not found]     ` <dc5a7597-7de8-40ac-a141-7bf686553aea-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20  9:25       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]         ` <20170120092508.GA39152-BKjuZOBx5Kn2N3qrpRCZGbhGAdq7xJNKhPhL2mjWHbk@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20 14:39           ` John Muccigrosso
2017-01-20 16:20           ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]             ` <e10afef3-a299-4cd4-8085-e63e4a8e4364-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20 19:07               ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                 ` <20170120190726.GC97424-l/d5Ua9yGnxXsXJlQylH7w@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20 19:29                   ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                     ` <8cffaac9-e0a6-40da-979c-51393152f1d5-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20 19:32                       ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                         ` <0cf3032f-cd44-4089-9644-4d2dfa0cd128-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20 19:44                           ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                             ` <e65447b5-a22a-4d8b-91ed-7378fc9d0eff-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20 20:52                               ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                 ` <b7b518b7-bbc9-4361-b342-36fbebd2b9df-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20 20:55                                   ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                     ` <d89d816f-fe4e-425c-a266-94918f487769-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-23  9:35                                       ` Alexis BRENON
     [not found]                                         ` <2f91ff31-2f12-4ae8-b9ab-81f521b781b6-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-25 19:11                                           ` Agustín Martín
2017-08-11 14:25   ` Søren ONeill
     [not found]     ` <93375854-9e81-4134-bba2-f37990794101-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23 23:15       ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]         ` <0743792e-004f-46e6-a0c3-bed24954f39e-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-24  8:56           ` 藤原由来
2017-12-11  8:14   ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]     ` <d38d22c6-37d3-4542-9243-764595c16872-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-12  5:08       ` Kolen Cheung
2017-12-12  2:05   ` iandol
     [not found]     ` <e22aa1a5-4789-40e6-9642-8f360fa85313-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-12  4:07       ` iandol
     [not found]         ` <543c6efb-4c53-4c8b-85c2-3841b41d661a-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-12 21:13           ` BP Jonsson
2019-12-12  9:37   ` Philip Hodder
     [not found]     ` <6053da55-d54b-4b95-929c-627f570d8a64-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-12 20:42       ` allefeld
     [not found]         ` <2d5093b0-826f-491c-b811-b1c661b2f33d-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-14  3:22           ` allefeld
     [not found]             ` <4b36b471-b2f8-43ee-9cca-2803e419f1c3-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-14  3:23               ` allefeld
2019-12-17  5:14               ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                 ` <m2sgljpm8m.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-17 19:09                   ` John Gabriele
     [not found]                     ` <1c03c094-1bc0-4df1-80ee-aa0680ed19aa-jFIJ+Wc5/Vo7lZ9V/NTDHw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-17 23:50                       ` allefeld
     [not found]                         ` <0501a360-19e0-428e-ae55-99844da47261-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-18  4:25                           ` John Gabriele
2019-12-18  9:07                           ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                             ` <61f892ef-39e4-49d2-90ed-9bde0f86d7dd-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-19 23:01                               ` allefeld
     [not found]                                 ` <99cadc8c-ccf3-4c84-8569-cecb67ae65f7-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-22 21:17                                   ` allefeld
     [not found]                                     ` <e7cb59b7-00c5-401e-954f-4f010a7ea360-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-25 22:34                                       ` John Muccigrosso
     [not found]                                         ` <6cb78b3f-0475-4d8e-826a-f3a8a751e6a2-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-25 23:38                                           ` John Gabriele
2019-12-14 16:18   ` mb21
     [not found]     ` <3564f44f-a07b-479d-8746-65e4bd254808-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-16 14:20       ` Agustín Martín
2019-12-16 15:52       ` John Gabriele
2020-01-02 10:19   ` mb21
     [not found]     ` <afa46a2c-3db0-46e4-8b4c-21acce284234-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-02 18:48       ` allefeld
     [not found]         ` <c3dcb843-c8c9-4ea1-8dcc-7cd742f8f746-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-02 19:49           ` John Gabriele
2020-01-03 12:02           ` T. Emil Rivera-Thorsen
2020-01-03 18:15             ` BPJ
     [not found]               ` <CADAJKhA4Uk4SZf0uTd1FzJ1+3DuwHJSkrf4yPZXdOkAHUynfBQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-05  3:41                 ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                   ` <aeaf4d4e-c5f2-43fc-90f6-bb991b51edc9-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-06  5:40                     ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                       ` <m2pnfxta53.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-09 17:51                         ` allefeld
     [not found]                           ` <921cd6a2-2d51-4c82-bf29-97627318519f-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-14 20:46                             ` BPJ
     [not found]                               ` <CADAJKhARUsq4GnQAuykH4tXjHAaRe=YB2EKEwnshJZ9496K-9Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-15  8:18                                 ` Alexis BRENON
     [not found]                                   ` <CAJPB9o0-2RT=Kd733Xj2vqDTgGoozqX+7V_SCd=LD=6EbuGChg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-15 15:41                                     ` BPJ
     [not found]                                       ` <CADAJKhAnKavwk3CkT77h5Z4jQJetmko-pjR-xhh-DQ+6Ci_sRA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-15 20:38                                         ` allefeld
     [not found]                                           ` <2a2bb039-4d03-474e-922f-b026b5cf7de2-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-16  2:01                                             ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                               ` <1f155e18-8fdd-4bbf-acf8-5ad5f6fce47d-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-16 12:47                                                 ` JM Marcastel
     [not found]                                                   ` <58f2389d-dabd-46c3-93e9-e6f10468c4ea-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-16 21:13                                                     ` BPJ
2020-01-16 21:00                                                 ` BPJ
2020-01-17  2:22                                                   ` John Gabriele
2020-01-17  2:38                                                     ` John Gabriele
2020-01-18 23:52                                     ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                       ` <m24kwsxqxy.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-19  8:08                                         ` 藤原由来
     [not found]                                           ` <CAA4xQMmj9pc3RKC473_Hq_+gSA6DJNkQS2z++OUE6Sp4L6Bv5w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-20 12:58                                             ` Alexis BRENON
2020-01-21 22:05                                         ` Kolen Cheung [this message]
     [not found]                                           ` <6af5e7cd-39a3-43c8-ae25-db4972b72b6a-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-22 17:15                                             ` allefeld
     [not found]                                               ` <ebcb7508-7ecc-444b-9e6e-c10d76922753-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-23 20:55                                                 ` EBkysko
     [not found]                                                   ` <7d507651-5a17-4546-b867-7da0a6db5d54-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-23 21:07                                                     ` EBkysko
     [not found]                                                       ` <0abb8b3c-363c-41bd-9430-b9b6cc085d06-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-27  8:30                                                         ` Alexis BRENON
2020-03-07  9:45       ` Albert Krewinkel
2020-01-16 13:16   ` John Muccigrosso
2020-01-22  9:42   ` JM Marcastel
2020-02-01 10:02   ` mb21
     [not found]     ` <b3c94952-a9ae-4ba5-83ec-38f522e0ac06-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-01 10:10       ` mb21
2020-03-08 17:54   ` Vineet Kapil
     [not found]     ` <CAEyhvmqBH8yMXg7_Yq+hzOZC-esM5nuQVAEZzjTAHSdonZSX8Q@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <CAFz9o2rzDn3YFEWaUdyjFzcp4BGnDyPxTjuDH1pdyAeemdqxWg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <CAFz9o2rzDn3YFEWaUdyjFzcp4BGnDyPxTjuDH1pdyAeemdqxWg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-03-09 16:12           ` Corentin Dupont
     [not found]     ` <7bda92b9-79ab-4d90-bee6-bf4a459b5c86-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-03-09 16:51       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]         ` <yh480klfo9cvzy.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-22  3:20           ` Bin Han
     [not found]             ` <dedcd25f-28aa-4b44-b362-f4111bfb751fo-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2021-05-15 16:42               ` M. Rehnert
     [not found]                 ` <39e85238-4c5c-4652-bdda-b04102568f01n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2021-05-21 18:51                   ` mb21
     [not found]                     ` <9df1384b-3009-4f28-a774-e6f1ee960911n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2021-12-17  1:30                       ` christi...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
2020-03-12  8:50   ` Ross Woods

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