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From: Stephan Boltzmann <stephan2boltzmann-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: ignorenonframetext in default.latex
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2023 07:14:43 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6b008cd1-f9ce-4cfa-844a-2d544da2120cn@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a30c413-8ce3-4269-afb9-848f328b8a2dn-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>


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There would also be the option to put
\makeatletter
\beamer@ignorenonframefalse
\makeatother
anywhere in the document to disable the ignorenonframetext classoption.

Paul Gesting schrieb am Freitag, 21. Januar 2022 um 06:40:00 UTC+1:

> Hi John,
>
> Thanks so much for the quick fix, I really appreciate it! 
>
> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 6:40:39 AM UTC+1 Paul Gesting wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I am using 2.11.2 on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and it adds it, as you saw. I 
>> created two issues: One for the feature request 
>> <https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/7857> and one for the documentation 
>> <https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/7856>.
>>
>> Thanks again for all your help and for how incredibly useful pandoc is!
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 8:54:00 PM UTC+1 John MacFarlane wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Scratch that...I see now that it does create the extra 
>>> slide. 
>>>
>>> Well, I think we can fix that. If you submit an issue 
>>> on our GitHub tracker, it will help me keep track. 
>>> And mention in the issue that the manual needs to 
>>> be updated to reflect that speaker notes work with 
>>> beamer, too. 
>>>
>>> John MacFarlane <j...-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> writes: 
>>>
>>> > It didn't add a frame for me when I tried it... 
>>> > Are you using an up-to-date pandoc? 
>>> > 
>>> > Paul Gesting <fol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes: 
>>> > 
>>> >> Hi John, 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Thanks for the quick reply! That was one of the first things I tried. 
>>> The 
>>> >> ::: notes block does the exact same thing as simply \note{...}. Both 
>>> of 
>>> >> them add a frame. Sorry, I wasn't very clear in my tex.se question, 
>>> but the 
>>> >> reason I put both the ::: notes block and the \note{...} command was 
>>> to 
>>> >> show that both give the exact same result in the .text file that I 
>>> showed. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Thanks! 
>>> >> paul 
>>> >> 
>>> >> On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 6:55:43 PM UTC+1 John MacFarlane 
>>> wrote: 
>>> >> 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> What happens if you do this (with current pandoc)? 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> % pandoc -t beamer -s -o my.pdf --slide-level=2 
>>> >>> # Hi 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> ::: notes 
>>> >>> note 
>>> >>> ::: 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> ## Slide 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> ok 
>>> >>> ^D 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> When I tried this, I did not get an extra page after the section 
>>> >>> heading "Hi". (But I'm not sure how to view the notes with 
>>> >>> beamer.) 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> Actually, the manual says that "notes" divs are only supported 
>>> >>> for powerpoint and reveal.js. This seems wrong, because beamer 
>>> >>> does now seem to support them. So perhaps the manual needs 
>>> >>> updating? But how do you actually use the speaker notes with 
>>> >>> beamer? 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> Paul Gesting <fol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes: 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> > I actually have a use case where I would like text under a section 
>>> title 
>>> >>> to 
>>> >>> > be outside of a frame. See the question I posted here 
>>> >>> > < 
>>> >>> 
>>> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/630390/add-a-beamer-note-to-a-section-slide-using-pandoc-and-markdown 
>>> >>> > 
>>> >>> > . 
>>> >>> > 
>>> >>> > Basically, if I want to add a note to a section title, I do not 
>>> want a 
>>> >>> > blank frame to be added for the note. I want the note on the 
>>> section 
>>> >>> frame. 
>>> >>> > Is this still possible after the change that is cited above? 
>>> >>> > 
>>> >>> > On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 11:04:16 PM UTC+2 
>>> thomas....-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org 
>>> >>> > wrote: 
>>> >>> > 
>>> >>> >> Here is something that would be different after the change: 
>>> >>> >> 
>>> >>> >> A md like this: 
>>> >>> >> 
>>> >>> >> ``` 
>>> >>> >> # Foo 
>>> >>> >> 
>>> >>> >> Foo 
>>> >>> >> 
>>> >>> >> ## Bar 
>>> >>> >> 
>>> >>> >> Bar 
>>> >>> >> ``` 
>>> >>> >> 
>>> >>> >> The command: `$ pandoc --slide-level=2 -t beamer -o test.tex 
>>> test.md` 
>>> >>> >> produces LaTeX where there is text ('Foo') outside of a frame. If 
>>> >>> >> ignorefametext is removed from the template, doing $ pandoc 
>>> >>> --slide-level=2 
>>> >>> >> -t beamer -o test.pdf test.md` would give different results, 
>>> i.e., 
>>> >>> 'Foo' 
>>> >>> >> would now be printed on a new slide after the section, rather 
>>> than not 
>>> >>> >> appearing at all. 
>>> >>> >> 
>>> >>> >> On Sunday, 13 September 2020 at 22:26:02 UTC+2 Thomas Hodgson 
>>> wrote: 
>>> >>> >> 
>>> >>> >>> Is there a case where it would be expected that something would 
>>> be 
>>> >>> >>> written outside a frame, and that it should be ignored? 
>>> >>> >>> 
>>> >>> >>> I have checked the modified template with sections, and with 
>>> >>> subsections, 
>>> >>> >>> and without either. 
>>> >>> >>> 
>>> >>> >>> On Sunday, 13 September 2020 at 21:23:19 UTC+2 John MacFarlane 
>>> wrote: 
>>> >>> >>> 
>>> >>> >>>> 
>>> >>> >>>> We used to ignore stuff outside of frames. 
>>> >>> >>>> However, this changed with 
>>> >>> >>>> 
>>> >>> >>>> 
>>> >>> 
>>> https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/commit/f431f67b2f2f5071345fa5800658375afaf44c1b 
>>> >>> >>>> (somewhat controversially) 
>>> >>> >>>> 
>>> >>> >>>> It may be that after this commit, removing ignorenonframetext 
>>> >>> >>>> would be okay. Maybe someone can test that out (with a lot of 
>>> >>> >>>> different cases, please). 
>>> >>> >>>> 
>>> >>> >>>> Thomas Hodgson <thomas....-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes: 
>>> >>> >>>> 
>>> >>> >>>> > The default.latex template uses the 'ignorenonframetext' for 
>>> >>> Beamer. 
>>> >>> >>>> Is 
>>> >>> >>>> > there a good reason for this? If that was removed from the 
>>> >>> template, 
>>> >>> >>>> there 
>>> >>> >>>> > would be no need to handle making titles differently for 
>>> beamer and 
>>> >>> >>>> other 
>>> >>> >>>> > formats, i.e., it could be done with `\maketitle` in both 
>>> cases. I 
>>> >>> >>>> think 
>>> >>> >>>> > that that's better when using themes that treat a title slide 
>>> >>> >>>> differently 
>>> >>> >>>> > from ordinary slides (such as Metropolis). 
>>> >>> >>>> > 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-07-07 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-13 18:36 Thomas Hodgson
     [not found] ` <69361063-4c69-4403-85c7-31d943d138fdn-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-13 19:23   ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]     ` <m2mu1th46i.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-13 20:26       ` Thomas Hodgson
     [not found]         ` <2a37b9d4-8b50-4764-950b-d97f2701f8f4n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-13 21:04           ` Thomas Hodgson
     [not found]             ` <8d3b5815-bc30-4113-9683-11c166866e32n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-13 21:36               ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                 ` <m28sddgy0t.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-13 22:42                   ` Thomas Hodgson
2022-01-19 16:27               ` Paul Gesting
     [not found]                 ` <81339d69-ff5e-4f9e-8ee5-1d7ba12a9d7dn-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-19 17:55                   ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                     ` <m2v8yftxtc.fsf-jF64zX8BO0+FqBokazbCQ6OPv3vYUT2dxr7GGTnW70NeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-19 19:26                       ` Paul Gesting
     [not found]                         ` <5bfb6c9d-5237-4849-8dd8-26b6a81f7af9n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-19 19:49                           ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                             ` <yh480kiluf5wvb.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-19 19:53                               ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                 ` <yh480kfspj5wov.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-20  5:40                                   ` Paul Gesting
     [not found]                                     ` <34cc5349-a24d-494f-8abe-cd7cbf2994f0n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-21  5:40                                       ` Paul Gesting
     [not found]                                         ` <4a30c413-8ce3-4269-afb9-848f328b8a2dn-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2023-07-07 14:14                                           ` Stephan Boltzmann [this message]
2022-01-19 19:41                       ` Paul Gesting

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