From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.text.pandoc/7199 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Bart Newsgroups: gmane.text.pandoc Subject: Re: Decoupling citeproc and highlighting-kate from pandoc Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 00:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6f1be56f-1995-4e54-84ed-201881300237@googlegroups.com> References: <20130825191545.GA80583@Johns-MacBook-Air-2.local> <28ef090f-b33e-4fd1-91cb-5da1eadf386b@googlegroups.com> <5220F425.5050002@reagle.org> <20130831152309.GA39551@Johns-MacBook-Pro.local> <03d50535-8cba-4844-958d-2a8fc1ee77b1@googlegroups.com> <20130902155711.GB31156@Johns-MacBook-Pro.local> <4d09f924-b9ca-4f29-8c64-de355407a90a@googlegroups.com> <9703dae4-9816-4508-a1cd-8272c0c6ea0c@googlegroups.com> <52264A45.3000909@reagle.org> <83ebfc01-27a8-4f45-a3f8-3ee4378e66e2@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3483_6863221.1378365149379" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1378365150 7899 80.91.229.3 (5 Sep 2013 07:12:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 07:12:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Nick Bart To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org Original-X-From: pandoc-discuss+bncBDIPX6WQ4INBBXO5UCIQKGQE6RBTVNI-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org Thu Sep 05 09:12:33 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gtp-pandoc-discuss@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-qe0-f61.google.com ([209.85.128.61]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VHTjz-0004AK-2o for gtp-pandoc-discuss@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 09:12:31 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-qe0-f61.google.com with SMTP id 1sf242238qec.6 for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 00:12:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=B2mXQIhWoRiOV6gA5n6LKqvjcA/cstCGdAFEJ5kWspk=; b=RIhLnRhw8n4xKm1VtNH//hs0P+sWIVu3ZyAVBiX1l2QteD9LTGUngmyafFK2+Wj64H w0vq1x7zyEtndOZhPY4VYQuhdXcrTO5oG8vRN6pwQRcDZRbtcnAixRUJ1yuuWPAbT8Qr ggg7PQkQlIyV/0k/Nt5tLWEsUBMBb91ny8ju83MKpE2hRf947llmr+gpxBZiE2nDAsct dLvldEA7Ld2KNw95r6Gqzg325zdl/pEEHDKR4wdto4gcA+/Ffyl9SLWqxBV2Y04/i8Ql xLCfEvduaJF3QiVFoiqsE63EBEEKp5HglazSDm/efPbDblzddiJ3c/0BQyfkT2dBSXQv EbmA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=B2mXQIhWoRiOV6gA5n6LKqvjcA/cstCGdAFEJ5kWspk=; b=ZkuyOpnoHnp8lTO3lWsmp8KLN20x7mW3N+S/xEJtaJ7ufivJINHtguYAPbLP8hPNgV kDAAFi6NGs8mdO7bkz2n6Oeb9pN/ChC+oOtKyAegs3PAmYWnzmrhrAY/t/22Yx7BTtoQ AbkglRqtIrx4F1XmhnETTabJIGRna31z8qsXD1wUO6b+GitZnazuRkWz7+68jdwboPi3 Z5fgaaDszYBF108lsfTnbpEHsldoRHUwHqWafuAKL97SaPZ/rQPX/yNdRtyklLpIqK84 bcyrXyzXS/voM3tUanmuLaoqXbsUr3udLXSQCtUhpR5f3zFA61gMMNODsQiQUhbIfJqs cAyw== X-Received: by 10.49.101.5 with SMTP id fc5mr4711qeb.25.1378365150176; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 00:12:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org Original-Received: by 10.49.85.200 with SMTP id j8ls362837qez.6.gmail; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 00:12:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.14.170 with SMTP id q10mr296860qec.5.1378365149843; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 00:12:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: nickbart1980-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Original-Sender: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.text.pandoc:7199 Archived-At: ------=_Part_3483_6863221.1378365149379 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 So, thu upshot for pandoc/citeproc-hs so far seems to be that the proposal for a new CSL variable, "volume-title" is on the table, but it's not so clear if and when a consensus might be achieved. In the meantime, pandoc/citeproc-hs could fix the issues concerning the series field, and also (a) implement "volume-title" as I suggested earlier in this thread, or (b) map the content of the biblatex maintitle field, if non-empty, or else the content of the title field (for type book etc.) or the content of the booktitle field (for type inbook etc.) to the CSL variable "container-title"; if the maintitle field is non-empty, the content of the title field (for type book etc.) or the content of the booktitle field (for type inbook etc.) will have to be discarded. (b) is tolerable. It would still output, e.g., "Collected Works, vol. 7", which is much better than just "Tragedies", or even "Tragedies, vol. 7" which would be just plain wrong. Still, I'd be happier if it'd be (a) ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. 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So, thu upshot for pandoc/citeproc-hs so far seems to be t= hat the proposal for a new CSL variable, "volume-title" is on the table, bu= t it's not so clear if and when a consensus might be achieved.

In th= e meantime, pandoc/citeproc-hs could fix the issues concerning the series f= ield, and also

(a) implement "volume-title" as I suggested earlier i= n this thread, or

(b) map the content of the biblatex maintitle fiel= d, if non-empty, or else the content of the title field (for type book etc.= ) or the content of the booktitle field (for type inbook etc.) to the CSL v= ariable "container-title"; if the maintitle field is non-empty, the content= of the title field=20 (for type book etc.) or the content of the booktitle field (for type=20 inbook etc.) will have to be discarded.

(b) is tolerable. It would s= till output, e.g., "Collected Works, vol. 7", which is much better than jus= t "Tragedies", or even "Tragedies, vol. 7" which would be just plain wrong.=

Still, I'd be happier if it'd be (a) ...

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