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From: Tom McLean <thomaspaulmclean-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Suppressing author in citation
Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 02:37:12 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
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Thank you – that looks perfect!

(It does break the slight bodge I had made on some of my more extended 
footnotes, but I will either have to adjust that, or dump less material in 
my footnotes...)

On Monday, 10 May 2021 at 10:35:02 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:

> Ok. Biblatex-chicago comes with a command \headlesscite with is already 
> quite close to what you want. The definition is:
>
> ```
> \DeclareCiteCommand{\headlesscite}
> {\usebibmacro{prenote}}
> {\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
> \toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}%
> \usebibmacro{clear+labelname}%
> \usebibmacro \clearname{labelname}%
> {cite}%
> \global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}%
> {\multicitedelim}
> {\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
> ```
>
> We can now simply take that definiton for the starred variant of footcite:
>
> ```
> \DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote]
> {\usebibmacro{prenote}}
> {\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
> \toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}%
> \usebibmacro{clear+labelname}%
> \clearname{labelname}%
> \usebibmacro{cite}%
> \global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}%
> {\multicitedelim}
> {\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
> ```
>
> It will start working for \autocite* after these two lines:
>
> ```
> \DeclareAutoCiteCommand{footnote}[l]{\footcite}{\footcites}
> \ExecuteBibliographyOptions{autocite=footnote}
> ```
>
> MWE below, PDF attached. 
>
> HTH,
> Denis
>
> ================================================
> \documentclass{article}
> \begin{filecontents}[overwrite]{test.bib}
> @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
> year = {1952},
> publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
> address = {{Antwerpen}}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {1964},
> edition = {7de dr.},
> publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> address = {{Bilthoven}}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {1967},
> publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> address = {{Bilthoven}}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {2005},
> edition = {First published 1967},
> publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> address = {{London}},
> isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {2014},
> edition = {First published 1959},
> publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
> address = {{London}},
> isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
> keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
> number = {1},
> series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
> }
> \end{filecontents}
>
> \usepackage[notes,backend=biber]{biblatex-chicago}
> \addbibresource{test.bib}
>
> % Declare footcite* just as headlesscite, but wrap it in a footnote
> \DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote]
> {\usebibmacro{prenote}}
> {\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
> \toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}%
> \usebibmacro{clear+labelname}%
> \clearname{labelname}%
> \usebibmacro{cite}%
> \global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}%
> {\multicitedelim}
> {\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
>
> % This is needed for these changes to take effect.
> \DeclareAutoCiteCommand{footnote}[l]{\footcite}{\footcites}
> \ExecuteBibliographyOptions{autocite=footnote}
>
>
> \begin{document}
>
> \autocite*{schillebeeckx1952}
>
> %\footcite*{schillebeeckx1952}
>
> \end{document}
>
> ================================================
>
>
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-
> > dis...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > Gesendet: Montag, 10. Mai 2021 00:07
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
> > 
> > \DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote]
> > {\usebibmacro{prenote}}%\bibsentence
> > {\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
> > %\usebibmacro{cite}
> > \usebibmacro{cite-without-author}}
> > {\multicitedelim}
> > {\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: Maier, Denis Christian (UB)
> > Gesendet: Montag, 10. Mai 2021 00:02:15
> > An: pandoc-discuss
> > Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
> > 
> > Biblatex-chicago defines autocite as footcute. The star is simply being 
> passed
> > through. As there us no definition for footcite*, footcite* uses 
> footcite* as a
> > fallback.
> > So, we need a definition for footcite* (\DeclareCiteCommand). In that
> > definition, call a big macro that doesn't print the authors.
> > 
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-
> > dis...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im Auftrag von Tom McLean
> > <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Mai 2021 23:24:07
> > An: pandoc-discuss
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> > 
> > Can't renewcommand and newcommand both only take one optional
> > argument? autocite takes two (comments before and after the reference),
> > and while I don't think that causes me a problem in this instance, I'd 
> rather a
> > solution that doesn't limit that if that's possible.
> > 
> > 
> > On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 21:39:06 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
> > I don't think renewcommand is the best solution. There's a special 
> interface
> > for citation commands.
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Mai 2021 21:31:05
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> > 
> > Renewing \autocite* seems to be a good approach. So please try again and
> > reproduce your exact commands if the error persists!
> > 
> > Le Sunday 09 May 2021 à 12:14:40PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > > Wouldn't that method also require me to manually insert
> > > \clearname{author} for all the relevant citations? At least, my quick
> > > attempt didn't seem happy with either \newcommand{\autocite*} or
> > > \renewcomand{\autocite*} – the former objecting because the unstarred
> > > version exists, and the latter because the starred doesn't. (Though I
> > > don't rule out the possibility of an error in the rest of the
> > > arguments to \(re)newcommand being part of the problem...)
> > >
> > > On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 17:04:59 UTC+2 jcr wrote:
> > >
> > > I meant \clearname{author}
> > >
> > > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:01:57 PM UTC+2 jcr wrote:
> > >
> > > See the first answer to this question:
> > > https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/ 262472/ I don't know if exactly the
> > > same code will work with biblatex-chicago, but it shows the general
> > > approach. You want to make a command to suppress printing of the
> > > author (in the linked answer, it's called \int@suppauth), and then
> > > invoke it at the beginning of the starred cite commands you declare.
> > > If it's sufficient to suppress the author's name, that command can be
> > > \clearname{authorname}, but Chicago style will substitute an editor or
> > > translator, so if the citations in question have one of those, you 
> need a
> > more sophisticated solution.
> > >
> > > On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:43:44 PM UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > > Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:40:12
> > > An: pandoc-discuss
> > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> > >
> > > Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then!
> > >
> > > On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > > wrote:
> > > I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may
> > > want to look into how the standard styles do this.
> > > ________________________________________
> > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > > Auftrag von denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org <denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
> > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39
> > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > > Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
> > >
> > > It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in biblatex
> > > styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
> > >
> > > Denis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > > Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50
> > > An: pandoc-discuss
> > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> > >
> > > Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration,
> > > can anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on how
> > > to do so.
> > >
> > > Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving in
> > > the way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
> > >
> > > On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > > wrote:
> > > Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat
> > > unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at https:/
> > > /www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago<http://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-
> > ch
> > > icago>
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > > Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
> > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> > >
> > > biblatex-chicago (via biber)
> > >
> > > Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit
> > > :
> > > > What's the citation style?
> > > >
> > > > Denis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > > Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
> > > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> > > >
> > > > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}.
> > > From biblatex's manual
> > > > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave
> > > differently from the regular
> > > > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command."
> > > So you should probably
> > > > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a
> > > no-author command (but I
> > > > can't tell you more.
> > > >
> > > > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > > > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a
> > > pdf that shows
> > > > > what I'm getting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of
> > > what I'm using
> > > > > in case it's not a pandoc error!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a
> > > footnote are
> > > > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you
> > > could provide a
> > > > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this
> > > problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the
> > > footnote!
> > > > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the
> > > citation,
> > > > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need
> > > to
> > > > > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> > > > > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling to
> > > > > suppress author in the reference.
> > > > >
> > > > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> > > > > example):
> > > > >
> > > > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982; -@schillebeeckx1989c]
> > > > >
> > > > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> > > > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx, Gerechtigheid
> > > > > En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> > > > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van God
> > > > > (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> > > > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
> > > > >
> > > > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> > > > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote, which
> > > > > I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's any tricks
> > > > > anyone can share on how to fix those (if different), advice
> > > > > welcomed!
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks
> > > > >
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> > > > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952;
> > > -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a;
> > > -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work
> > > is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology
> > > of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the
> > > philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a
> > > framework shaped by phenomenology.
> > > > >
> > > > > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> > > > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}}, author =
> > > > > {Schillebeeckx, Henricus}, year = {1952}, publisher = {{'T
> > > > > Groeit}}, address = {{Antwerpen}} }
> > > > >
> > > > > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> > > > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting}, author =
> > > > > {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, year = {1964}, edition = {7de dr.},
> > > > > publisher = {{Nelissen}}, address = {{Bilthoven}} }
> > > > >
> > > > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> > > > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie}, author =
> > > > > {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, year = {1967}, publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > > > address = {{Bilthoven}} }
> > > > >
> > > > > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> > > > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> > > > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > > > year = {2005},
> > > > > edition = {First published 1967},
> > > > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> > > > > address = {{London}},
> > > > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> > > > > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> > > > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> > > > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> > > > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}}, author = {Schillebeeckx,
> > > > > Edward}, year = {2014}, edition = {First published 1959},
> > > > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}}, address = {{London}}, isbn =
> > > > > {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6}, keywords
> > > > > = {Catholic Church,Sacraments}, number = {1}, series = {The
> > > > > Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}} }
> > > > >
> > > > >
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2021-05-06 20:22     ` Tom McLean
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2021-05-07 17:23             ` Tom McLean
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2021-05-07 18:03                 ` gnpan
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2021-05-07 20:53                     ` Tom McLean
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2021-05-08  6:41                         ` gnpan
2021-05-08  9:02                         ` Bastien DUMONT
2021-05-08 10:34                           ` AW: " denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
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2021-05-08 10:39                               ` Bastien DUMONT
2021-05-08 11:13                                 ` AW: " denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
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2021-05-08 14:13                                     ` Tom McLean
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2021-05-08 14:29                                         ` AW: " denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
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2021-05-08 14:32                                             ` denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
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2021-05-08 14:40                                                 ` Tom McLean
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2021-05-08 14:43                                                     ` AW: " denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
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2021-05-09 15:01                                                         ` jcr
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2021-05-09 15:04                                                             ` jcr
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2021-05-09 19:14                                                                 ` Tom McLean
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2021-05-09 19:31                                                                     ` Bastien DUMONT
2021-05-09 19:38                                                                       ` AW: " denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
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2021-05-09 21:24                                                                           ` Tom McLean
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2021-05-09 22:02                                                                               ` AW: " denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
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2021-05-09 22:07                                                                                   ` denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
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2021-05-10  8:34                                                                                       ` denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
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2021-05-10  9:37                                                                                           ` Tom McLean [this message]
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2021-05-10  9:50                                                                                               ` denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
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2021-05-10  9:58                                                                                                   ` Tom McLean
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