Thank you – that looks perfect! (It does break the slight bodge I had made on some of my more extended footnotes, but I will either have to adjust that, or dump less material in my footnotes...) On Monday, 10 May 2021 at 10:35:02 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote: > Ok. Biblatex-chicago comes with a command \headlesscite with is already > quite close to what you want. The definition is: > > ``` > \DeclareCiteCommand{\headlesscite} > {\usebibmacro{prenote}} > {\usebibmacro{citeindex}% > \toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}% > \usebibmacro{clear+labelname}% > \usebibmacro \clearname{labelname}% > {cite}% > \global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}% > {\multicitedelim} > {\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}} > ``` > > We can now simply take that definiton for the starred variant of footcite: > > ``` > \DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote] > {\usebibmacro{prenote}} > {\usebibmacro{citeindex}% > \toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}% > \usebibmacro{clear+labelname}% > \clearname{labelname}% > \usebibmacro{cite}% > \global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}% > {\multicitedelim} > {\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}} > ``` > > It will start working for \autocite* after these two lines: > > ``` > \DeclareAutoCiteCommand{footnote}[l]{\footcite}{\footcites} > \ExecuteBibliographyOptions{autocite=footnote} > ``` > > MWE below, PDF attached. > > HTH, > Denis > > ================================================ > \documentclass{article} > \begin{filecontents}[overwrite]{test.bib} > @book{schillebeeckx1952, > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}}, > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus}, > year = {1952}, > publisher = {{'T Groeit}}, > address = {{Antwerpen}} > } > > @book{schillebeeckx1964, > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting}, > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, > year = {1964}, > edition = {7de dr.}, > publisher = {{Nelissen}}, > address = {{Bilthoven}} > } > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a, > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie}, > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, > year = {1967}, > publisher = {{Nelissen}}, > address = {{Bilthoven}} > } > > @book{schillebeeckx2005, > title = {The {{Eucharist}}}, > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, > year = {2005}, > edition = {First published 1967}, > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}}, > address = {{London}}, > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9}, > keywords = {Transubstantiation}, > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005} > } > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n, > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}}, > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}}, > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, > year = {2014}, > edition = {First published 1959}, > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}}, > address = {{London}}, > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6}, > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments}, > number = {1}, > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}} > } > \end{filecontents} > > \usepackage[notes,backend=biber]{biblatex-chicago} > \addbibresource{test.bib} > > % Declare footcite* just as headlesscite, but wrap it in a footnote > \DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote] > {\usebibmacro{prenote}} > {\usebibmacro{citeindex}% > \toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}% > \usebibmacro{clear+labelname}% > \clearname{labelname}% > \usebibmacro{cite}% > \global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}% > {\multicitedelim} > {\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}} > > % This is needed for these changes to take effect. > \DeclareAutoCiteCommand{footnote}[l]{\footcite}{\footcites} > \ExecuteBibliographyOptions{autocite=footnote} > > > \begin{document} > > \autocite*{schillebeeckx1952} > > %\footcite*{schillebeeckx1952} > > \end{document} > > ================================================ > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > dis...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org > > Gesendet: Montag, 10. Mai 2021 00:07 > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation > > > > \DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote] > > {\usebibmacro{prenote}}%\bibsentence > > {\usebibmacro{citeindex}% > > %\usebibmacro{cite} > > \usebibmacro{cite-without-author}} > > {\multicitedelim} > > {\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}} > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > Von: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) > > Gesendet: Montag, 10. Mai 2021 00:02:15 > > An: pandoc-discuss > > Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation > > > > Biblatex-chicago defines autocite as footcute. The star is simply being > passed > > through. As there us no definition for footcite*, footcite* uses > footcite* as a > > fallback. > > So, we need a definition for footcite* (\DeclareCiteCommand). In that > > definition, call a big macro that doesn't print the authors. > > > > ________________________________________ > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > dis...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im Auftrag von Tom McLean > > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Mai 2021 23:24:07 > > An: pandoc-discuss > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation > > > > Can't renewcommand and newcommand both only take one optional > > argument? autocite takes two (comments before and after the reference), > > and while I don't think that causes me a problem in this instance, I'd > rather a > > solution that doesn't limit that if that's possible. > > > > > > On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 21:39:06 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote: > > I don't think renewcommand is the best solution. There's a special > interface > > for citation commands. > > ________________________________________ > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org im > > Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Mai 2021 21:31:05 > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation > > > > Renewing \autocite* seems to be a good approach. So please try again and > > reproduce your exact commands if the error persists! > > > > Le Sunday 09 May 2021 à 12:14:40PM, Tom McLean a écrit : > > > Wouldn't that method also require me to manually insert > > > \clearname{author} for all the relevant citations? At least, my quick > > > attempt didn't seem happy with either \newcommand{\autocite*} or > > > \renewcomand{\autocite*} – the former objecting because the unstarred > > > version exists, and the latter because the starred doesn't. (Though I > > > don't rule out the possibility of an error in the rest of the > > > arguments to \(re)newcommand being part of the problem...) > > > > > > On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 17:04:59 UTC+2 jcr wrote: > > > > > > I meant \clearname{author} > > > > > > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:01:57 PM UTC+2 jcr wrote: > > > > > > See the first answer to this question: > > > https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/ 262472/ I don't know if exactly the > > > same code will work with biblatex-chicago, but it shows the general > > > approach. You want to make a command to suppress printing of the > > > author (in the linked answer, it's called \int@suppauth), and then > > > invoke it at the beginning of the starred cite commands you declare. > > > If it's sufficient to suppress the author's name, that command can be > > > \clearname{authorname}, but Chicago style will substitute an editor or > > > translator, so if the citations in question have one of those, you > need a > > more sophisticated solution. > > > > > > On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:43:44 PM UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org im > > > Auftrag von Tom McLean > > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:40:12 > > > An: pandoc-discuss > > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation > > > > > > Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then! > > > > > > On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org > > > wrote: > > > I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may > > > want to look into how the standard styles do this. > > > ________________________________________ > > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org im > > > Auftrag von denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org > > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39 > > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > > Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation > > > > > > It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in biblatex > > > styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.) > > > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org im > > > Auftrag von Tom McLean > > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50 > > > An: pandoc-discuss > > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation > > > > > > Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration, > > > can anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on how > > > to do so. > > > > > > Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving in > > > the way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual. > > > > > > On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org > > > wrote: > > > Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat > > > unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at https:/ > > > /www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago > ch > > > icago> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org im > > > Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT > > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18 > > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation > > > > > > biblatex-chicago (via biber) > > > > > > Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit > > > : > > > > What's the citation style? > > > > > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org im > > > Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT > > > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50 > > > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation > > > > > > > > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}. > > > From biblatex's manual > > > > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave > > > differently from the regular > > > > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command." > > > So you should probably > > > > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a > > > no-author command (but I > > > > can't tell you more. > > > > > > > > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit : > > > > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!! > > > > > > > > > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a > > > pdf that shows > > > > > what I'm getting. > > > > > > > > > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of > > > what I'm using > > > > > in case it's not a pandoc error! > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a > > > footnote are > > > > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you > > > could provide a > > > > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the > > > footnote! > > > > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name). > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the > > > citation, > > > > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need > > > to > > > > > modify your csl file to omit the author names. > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial > > > > > mistake, but I can't see for looking... > > > > > > > > > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling to > > > > > suppress author in the reference. > > > > > > > > > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for > > > > > example): > > > > > > > > > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982; -@schillebeeckx1989c] > > > > > > > > > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as: > > > > > > > > > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende > > > > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx, Gerechtigheid > > > > > En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal: > > > > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van God > > > > > (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989). > > > > > > > > > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...? > > > > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? > > > > > > > > > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the > > > > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote, which > > > > > I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's any tricks > > > > > anyone can share on how to fix those (if different), advice > > > > > welcomed! > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > Google Groups > > > > > "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > > > it, send an email > > > > > to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit https:// > > > groups.google.com/d/msgid/ > > > > > pandoc-discuss/fb15c4e9-1753-4140-9bbe-cd8f5bbc85b6n% > > > > > 40googlegroups.com > o > > > m>>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952; > > > -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a; > > > -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work > > > is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology > > > of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the > > > philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a > > > framework shaped by phenomenology. > > > > > > > > > > @book{schillebeeckx1952, > > > > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}}, author = > > > > > {Schillebeeckx, Henricus}, year = {1952}, publisher = {{'T > > > > > Groeit}}, address = {{Antwerpen}} } > > > > > > > > > > @book{schillebeeckx1964, > > > > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting}, author = > > > > > {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, year = {1964}, edition = {7de dr.}, > > > > > publisher = {{Nelissen}}, address = {{Bilthoven}} } > > > > > > > > > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a, > > > > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie}, author = > > > > > {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, year = {1967}, publisher = {{Nelissen}}, > > > > > address = {{Bilthoven}} } > > > > > > > > > > @book{schillebeeckx2005, > > > > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}}, > > > > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, > > > > > year = {2005}, > > > > > edition = {First published 1967}, > > > > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}}, > > > > > address = {{London}}, > > > > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9}, > > > > > keywords = {Transubstantiation}, > > > > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005} > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n, > > > > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}}, > > > > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}}, author = {Schillebeeckx, > > > > > Edward}, year = {2014}, edition = {First published 1959}, > > > > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}}, address = {{London}}, isbn = > > > > > {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6}, keywords > > > > > = {Catholic Church,Sacraments}, number = {1}, series = {The > > > > > Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}} } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > > > send an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit https:// > > > groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc- > > discuss/YJZTurQWO/ > > le.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/YJZTurQWO/> > > > qnuZze%40localhost. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > > > send an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit https:// > > > groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc- > > discuss/ > > sgid/pandoc-discuss/> > > > > > 1614a3c93e494b0187f0c18b2f0e6f7f%40ub.unibe.ch. > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/ > > > d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/YJZqVvuWiaS8gBU/%40localhost. > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>. > > > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/ > > > d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ > > > 399e66f9-951a-4256-86ee- > > d4c1574c0447n%40googlegroups.com > > legroups.com> > > groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc- > > discuss/ > > sgid/pandoc-discuss/> > > > 399e66f9-951a-4256-86ee- > > d4c1574c0447n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium > > tp://40googlegroups.com?utm_medium> > > > =email&utm_source=footer>. > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/ > > > d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ > > > > > 5f9530e6884a4592a129e02c84bab47e%40ub.unibe.ch > > . > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>. > > > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/ > > > d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ > > > 6af18f1e-7d64-4833-a21d- > > 42abb2ec12a3n%40googlegroups.com > > legroups.com> > > groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc- > > discuss/ > > sgid/pandoc-discuss/> > > > 6af18f1e-7d64-4833-a21d- > > 42abb2ec12a3n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium > > tp://40googlegroups.com?utm_medium> > > > =email&utm_source=footer>. > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ > > > pandoc-discuss/118e8d18-ed6e-4c8f-b32d- > > 5104b3a87ae5n%40googlegroups.com. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "pandoc-discuss" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc- > > discuss/YJg4eYCyp2NurEdg%40localhost. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "pandoc-discuss" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > discuss+u...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/e68bd63a-fd68-4fba- > > 8677- > > 899d2f130753n%40googlegroups.com > pandoc-discuss/e68bd63a-fd68-4fba-8677- > > 899d2f130753n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=fo > > oter>. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "pandoc-discuss" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc- > > discuss/711394bd0f564490a01865af276a2f95%40ub.unibe.ch. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/74790f70-c44a-4025-adcc-ea0777158fedn%40googlegroups.com.