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* Citation syntax description in manual
@ 2021-05-18 15:49 Joseph Reagle
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From: Joseph Reagle @ 2021-05-18 15:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I was reviewing the citation syntax documentation in light of the new curly-bracket syntax [1] and wonder if the description has gotten crufty? It does reflect the evolution of the citation syntax: simple bracket citations, then no bracket "in-text" citations, then curly brackets enclosing complex pagination, and now curly brackets to enclose complex identifiers.

[1]: https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/commit/3f09f53459b877f53072efbf57dec21fa37280b5

If this were to be re-written, should the start of the documentation focus be on "@" and not square brackets?

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* Re: Citation syntax description in manual
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@ 2021-05-18 18:54   ` John MacFarlane
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From: John MacFarlane @ 2021-05-18 18:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Joseph Reagle, pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw


You're right I think.  If you want to propose a structure for
rewriting this, I'd consider it!

Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> writes:

> I was reviewing the citation syntax documentation in light of the new curly-bracket syntax [1] and wonder if the description has gotten crufty? It does reflect the evolution of the citation syntax: simple bracket citations, then no bracket "in-text" citations, then curly brackets enclosing complex pagination, and now curly brackets to enclose complex identifiers.
>
> [1]: https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/commit/3f09f53459b877f53072efbf57dec21fa37280b5
>
> If this were to be re-written, should the start of the documentation focus be on "@" and not square brackets?
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* Re: Citation syntax description in manual
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@ 2021-05-18 20:58       ` Joseph Reagle
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From: Joseph Reagle @ 2021-05-18 20:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: John MacFarlane, pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw



On 21-05-18 14:54, John MacFarlane wrote:
> You're right I think.  If you want to propose a structure for
> rewriting this, I'd consider it!

I tried, but stopped short because I don't know the parsing logic that well. I had something like this:

- Markdown citations begin with an "@" followed by an identifier; a
   sequence of citations are separated by semi-colons. (Does this ever
   conflict with numbered examples? I've never used the latter.)
- A citation may be followed by optional pagination.
- When citations appear within square brackets:
	- They are taken as in-text or a note citation, depending on the
	  style.
	- Each citation within the semi-colon delimited list may have a
	  prefix, locator, and suffix.
- Citations that appear without brackets always render the names of the
   authors in-text.
	- pagination and a suffix may still follow within brackets.
- complex identifiers and locators may be protected by inclusion within
   curly brackets.
... ?


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* Re: Citation syntax description in manual
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@ 2021-05-19 17:21           ` John MacFarlane
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From: John MacFarlane @ 2021-05-19 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Joseph Reagle, pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw


I gave it a try here:

https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/commit/d452155bcf158b790b0087d6d5c02cc3212c921c



Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> writes:

> On 21-05-18 14:54, John MacFarlane wrote:
>> You're right I think.  If you want to propose a structure for
>> rewriting this, I'd consider it!
>
> I tried, but stopped short because I don't know the parsing logic that well. I had something like this:
>
> - Markdown citations begin with an "@" followed by an identifier; a
>    sequence of citations are separated by semi-colons. (Does this ever
>    conflict with numbered examples? I've never used the latter.)
> - A citation may be followed by optional pagination.
> - When citations appear within square brackets:
> 	- They are taken as in-text or a note citation, depending on the
> 	  style.
> 	- Each citation within the semi-colon delimited list may have a
> 	  prefix, locator, and suffix.
> - Citations that appear without brackets always render the names of the
>    authors in-text.
> 	- pagination and a suffix may still follow within brackets.
> - complex identifiers and locators may be protected by inclusion within
>    curly brackets.
> ... ?


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* Re: Citation syntax description in manual
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@ 2021-05-19 17:32               ` Joseph Reagle
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From: Joseph Reagle @ 2021-05-19 17:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw

On 21-05-19 13:21, John MacFarlane wrote:
> I gave it a try here:
> 
> https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/commit/d452155bcf158b790b0087d6d5c02cc3212c921c

Looks goods. I left two comments (lines 4979 and 4980; never did that on github before) for subject singular agreement.


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