From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.text.pandoc/30893 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Carter Wood Newsgroups: gmane.text.pandoc Subject: Changing colons to full-stops in titles Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 07:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <78df697a-50f5-46d0-b0b8-29a2cbc9509an@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_4070_1034614584.1656686325152" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35831"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: pandoc-discuss Original-X-From: pandoc-discuss+bncBCYPBGVKTEEBB5UN7SKQMGQE5P2FITA-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org Fri Jul 01 16:38:50 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: gtp-pandoc-discuss@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from mail-yw1-f186.google.com ([209.85.128.186]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o7HnF-00098s-Lj for gtp-pandoc-discuss@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2022 16:38:49 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-yw1-f186.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-3178a95ec78sf20538777b3.4 for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2022 07:38:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20210112; h=sender:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=6TzWmqtwjxLSemZ+yZ47/K/YZgr9anF79Mxum8h8tcM=; b=CkrgcCtKuS+ULu4vBV9yqAhF8lb6cShwYSm16rgUlvZbcnbfPiLkZD0i5m2bjpMrSn D1nGwVn7h046Jy8OsShnCBvZigZQX8jf1ki9n8QjYZSIln/PMu544JjFiMPW+ZSAQvaw gOUW1/O3Dyoyo3dEUJoKOk/PlLh+vABz9X4lXNvCdEVPK1cR5WUr8MJNUn09k0PgmQHb Jv2lHNJUHDYRcgTSUOBAo25ZFXWTLV0l7EJFdsQH987OywfgXOlFmLhXaLBH05/MNZbn Ip/GNisM3OgNwR8mHeyGmhsiZk+pCWe2eQyXtddGMmYqxQckm2gVD6hIaF1CW3RXmaAC i4Sw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=sender:x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=6TzWmqtwjxLSemZ+yZ47/K/YZgr9anF79Mxum8h8tcM=; b=UL1Wd5sdjjs57W+1fdAJKnpg9mZ5cDHcBxv8w68eWYtCZMhqTviy7XH1yLeqUCmRht s8BVNZVgmK62namgAVpJY04qgFwdPTZCXHMMYyjMRFlpr/274+DKps371uPoVrCmO6y+ 0cHPRvG9D/+f/ew5gc9Jw4bPPiYo/jHHmGkFsJ5zs4aJ2mMtjpDtzIhmHesLXPRP6Uv7 JRQVZsr9/EX+3xbjMGUBp+0WpaCm7IjNVU6narN0H7s6IiYQXHC5Llc2IllAo5OXXvcn 2bkhsJRTvlQFF+hG4pVj/4/Sdn1W0L27WPvJgXQfX3+N+sRE7/6nBn544qBsl31VfgoS 3uKA== Original-Sender: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora/Mm2E5E+cQYgLWfTV3ccyLzlL5pDN6ima5KcPGPJ+pqWtyrbhN kWns4lXNxWndND1dCmqfZYg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1u/+ogWEtnQSm94455bL1es2+53T90afcCzrf3xHxKvlnT3kiKmKODvFp8kTGe3LDxB1ipFSw== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:348:b0:64a:d339:a75f with SMTP id e8-20020a056902034800b0064ad339a75fmr14839280ybs.63.1656686328660; Fri, 01 Jul 2022 07:38:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org Original-Received: by 2002:a25:be54:0:b0:668:a643:5b48 with SMTP id d20-20020a25be54000000b00668a6435b48ls28065249ybm.7.gmail; Fri, 01 Jul 2022 07:38:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a25:d2c1:0:b0:66d:350d:4692 with SMTP id j184-20020a25d2c1000000b0066d350d4692mr16013302ybg.149.1656686325606; Fri, 01 Jul 2022 07:38:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Sender: woodjo-ZOsAvrTRSvuEhhMi0yms2Q@public.gmane.org Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.text.pandoc:30893 Archived-At: ------=_Part_4070_1034614584.1656686325152 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4071_75078080.1656686325152" ------=_Part_4071_75078080.1656686325152 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I have one final (for now...) issue in setting up a CSL file (which I use with pandoc/citeproc and references in a json file). I'm not sure whether this is a CSL issue or whether it's an issue that can be solved via using a filter (or some other solution) in pandoc, but I thought there might be some people here who might have faced a similar issue. The house style for here (German-based publisher) wants a *full-stop/period *between main title and subtitle in citations / bibliographies; US/UK standard is a *colon* between main title and subtitle. And reference managers like Zotero -- IIUC -- save titles as single fields (at least they are in my version of Zotero). So it doesn't seem like it is possible to control what delimiter is used between them via CSL. I have found various discussions of relevant title/subtitle division issues -- some going back quite a few years -- in forums on Zotero: https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/8077/separate-fields-for-title-and-subtitle/ ...and CSL: https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/handling-main-sub-title-splits-citeproc-js/1563/11 However, these were in part discussions among developers about *possible* changes, and I'm not sure of the current status of this issue or whether there is a way to handle it. Would it be possible to automate turning colons in titles into full-stops via using a filter? If so is there such a filter already around? Can this be done via CSL? Or is this, as of now, impossible? (Or is there a real simple solution that I have, as usual, overlooked...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/78df697a-50f5-46d0-b0b8-29a2cbc9509an%40googlegroups.com. ------=_Part_4071_75078080.1656686325152 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have one final (for now...) issue in setting up a CSL file (which I use w= ith pandoc/citeproc and references in a json file).

I'm not sure whether this is a CSL issue or whether it's an issue that can= be solved via using a filter (or some other solution) in pandoc, but I tho= ught there might be some people here who might have faced a similar issue. =

The house style for here (German-based publis= her) wants a full-stop/period between main title and subtitle in cit= ations / bibliographies; US/UK standard is a colon between main titl= e and subtitle. And reference managers like Zotero -- IIUC -- save titles a= s single fields (at least they are in my version of Zotero). So it doesn't = seem like it is possible to control what delimiter is used between them via= CSL.

I have found various discussions of relevant title= /subtitle division issues -- some going back quite a few years -- in forums= on Zotero:

https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/8077/separate-fiel= ds-for-title-and-subtitle/

...and CSL:

https://discourse.cita= tionstyles.org/t/handling-main-sub-title-splits-citeproc-js/1563/11

However, these were in part discussions among develop= ers about possible changes, and I'm not sure of the current status o= f this issue or whether there is a way to handle it.

Wou= ld it be possible to automate turning colons in titles into full-stops via= using a filter? If so is there such a filter already around? Can this be d= one via CSL?

Or is this, as of now, impossible= ?

(Or is there a real simple solution that I have, as usual, overloo= ked...)

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