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Say pick a good open source font, and play with negative space. I don't know if the short form will be too short though, I never heard people called pandoc `pd` (though I heard pmd, PFM, etc.). But on the other hand, having the `an` and `oc` seems killing the idea. (one of the example above kind of did this and is kind of ugly. But then his idea of joining the Pd together along the straight line might worth exploring: may be a multi-axe? Multitool on steroid?) On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 4:31:32 AM UTC-8, Joost wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 08 2016, Kolen Cheung wrote: > > Over there I draft a design of pandoc logo by playing on the > > symmetry > > between P and d. One expression of that idea is an axe looks > > like P and the > > same thing rotated looks like d. The reason an axe is used is > > because this > > kind of echo pandoc being like a Swiss army knife, where an axe > > is like > > that on steroid. A proper design of that axe should resemble the > > letter P > > and d better. > > FWIW, I don't associate an axe with "Swiss army knife on > steroids". A Swiss army knife gets its reputation because instead > of being just a knife, it has a lot of different tools for > different jobs. An axe is, well, just an axe, and sophistication > is not what comes to mind when I think about its cutting power. > > That plus the fact that I think it'll be difficult if not > impossible to make an axe look like a p or d means that I would > suggest not to pursue the idea of using axes. I do very much like > the idea of integrating a p and a d into the logo, and sadly have > no better ideas to offer. :-( > > > > -- > Joost Kremers > Life has its moments > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. 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I think may be just using the type (it was the original id= ea). Say pick a good open source font, and play with negative space.
I don't know if the short form will be too short though, I never heard= people called pandoc `pd` (though I heard pmd, PFM, etc.). But on the othe= r hand, having the `an` and `oc` seems killing the idea. (one of the exampl= e above kind of did this and is kind of ugly. But then his idea of joining = the Pd together along the straight line might worth exploring: may be a mul= ti-axe? Multitool on steroid?)

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 4:3= 1:32 AM UTC-8, Joost wrote:

On Thu, Dec 08 2016, Kolen Cheung wrote:
> Over there I draft a design of pandoc logo by playing on the=20
> symmetry=20
> between P and d. One expression of that idea is an axe looks=20
> like P and the=20
> same thing rotated looks like d. The reason an axe is used is=20
> because this=20
> kind of echo pandoc being like a Swiss army knife, where an axe=20
> is like=20
> that on steroid. A proper design of that axe should resemble the= =20
> letter P=20
> and d better.

FWIW, I don't associate an axe with "Swiss army knife on=20
steroids". A Swiss army knife gets its reputation because instead= =20
of being just a knife, it has a lot of different tools for=20
different jobs. An axe is, well, just an axe, and sophistication=20
is not what comes to mind when I think about its cutting power.

That plus the fact that I think it'll be difficult if not=20
impossible to make an axe look like a p or d means that I would=20
suggest not to pursue the idea of using axes. I do very much like=20
the idea of integrating a p and a d into the logo, and sadly have=20
no better ideas to offer. :-(



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Life has its moments

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