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I was not aware of the List-defined style in= Wikimedia. To see an example, I recently did some work on the Richard Stallman article= . Given I usually edit Wikipedia in Sublime Text, I converted to List-defin= ed style before editing. (I find it to impossible to substantively edit wit= h all those verbose citations in the prose. Fortunately, I can also easily = fold them.) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DRichard_Stallman&action=3Dedit > Is there a way to put the whole BibTex list at the end of my wikimedia so= urce file and then reference those in the article text? Is that what you ar= e suggesting? You can't put bibtex in Wikitext, it wouldn't be understood. There are the = occasional proposals to support something like that, but nothing has happen= ed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Wikicite/purpose#Bibtex= _format You'd have to convert the bibtex to `<{{cite ...}}`. = There might be tools for that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Citation_tools > I'm also thinking the HTML that I grab from my browser, looking at the wi= kipedia page, would also be cleaner and perhaps the HTML would convert to L= aTex or docx better. That might suffice, but the citations will be as text only. You couldn't ea= sy change all their formatting from one style to another, for example. But = perhaps that isn't needed. > If you have never used Zotero, you might check it out. It is an absolutel= y fabulous tool. Great grabber and great database. Zotero is great! However, I started work on my own bib manager scripts befo= re Zotero and continue to use them. Originally, I grabbed URLs and stuck th= em in Freemind mindmaps, and then could output for use with OpenOffice and = bibtex. Today, I grab DOIs, ISBNs, and URLs -- some with site-specific heur= istics -- and manage them in Freeplane mindmaps. I can output to biblatex, = pandoc-citeproc YAML, and Wikipedia ref/cite. https://github.com/reagle/thunderdell --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/= pandoc-discuss/7e5f5083-6330-d0ca-15d6-a5163420f6b7%40reagle.org.