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Pandoc's markdown (and so Pandoc itself)=20 supports codeblocks (pre or code, I don't remember), divs and spans with=20 attributes (and I believe headers too). I think paragraphs can't have=20 attributes. Cheers, Sukil El 27/06/2022 a las 11:42, 'guenael Muller' via pandoc-discuss escribi=C3= =B3: > Hello all, > > Up from the future (10 years !) > > I have a similar issue now with playing with pandoc and weasyprint=20 > using pandoc for the templating. > What seems to be a bit curious, is that some html attribute are=20 > stripped off and some are not. > > Example: > >

Just= some=20 > text

>
>

Just some text

>
> > give: > >

Just some text

>
>

Just some text

>
> > I don't get the logic behind the fact that HTML attribute are stripped=20 > for p and not for div. Understanding it may help me make a decision > if it's worth to adapt my HTML depending on this behavior. > > Thanks for your answers, > > Guenael > > Le lundi 12 novembre 2012 =C3=A0 20:14:26 UTC+1, ousia a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0= : > > Thank you for your explanation, John. > > I'm afraid I cannot code and pandoc's internal representation of the > document (sorry if the naming isn't accurate, but this is really > Greek > to me [=CF=87=CE=B1=CE=BB=CE=B5=CF=80=E1=BD=B0 =CF=84=E1=BD=B0 =CE=BA= =CE=B1=CE=BB=CE=AC, I agree :-)]) is beyond my extremely limited > understanding on these matters. > > I can understand (and I hope I'm not wrong) that pandoc cannot be as > flexible as HTML and this is on purpose. (This might be > problematic for > some uses, as the Spanish law gazette uses no headings, but it > distinguishes the different

with different classes.) > > Not focusing specifically on HTML, I think that pandoc should > allow to > uniquely identify, add to a class and set the language to any > element, > desired text span or division. > > I know that this is related to a couple of messages I sent yesterday. > Sorry for repeating myself, but these are basic features to write > documents. > > From the documentation perspective, it would be to apply the type > Attr > to any constructor from data Block and Inline. And to data TableCell. > > Although language could be defined as a key-value pair in type > Attr, I > think is clearer to define a new specific language attribute. > > Is there anything wrong with this approach? > > Many thanks for your help, > > > > Pablo > > On 11/11/12 23:36, John MacFarlane wrote: > > You've got to remember that pandoc converts the input format to an > > internal representation of the document (the 'Pandoc' > structure), and > > then converts that to the output format. > > > > This internal representation (see > > > http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/pandoc-types/1.9.1/doc/ht= ml/Text-Pandoc-Definition.html) > > > is much less expressive than HTML, and doesn't have a place for the > > attributes you want. That's why they are lost on HTML -> HTML > > translation. > > > > +++ Pablo Rodr=C3=ADguez [Nov 11 12 12:19 ]: > >> Hi John, > >> > >> I'm using pandoc mainly to generate ePub files. > >> > >> I used textile first as source language, but it isn't fully > implemented > >> by pandoc and textile itself has issues with multiparagraph > elements. > >> > >> It seems HTML is probably a much better option for pandoc as > source > >> language, although I have to forget footnotes. There is no way > to have > >> it all. > >> > >> But pandoc strips almost all attributes from HTML elements. > >> > >> A minimal sample: > >> > >>

    > >>

  1. Well there is no other way to tag lingua > >> latina.

    > >>

  2. Or even classes or ids.

    .
    3. > >>
> >> > >> Would it be possible that there is an option that doesn't strip > off > >> attributes from HTML code? > >> > >> BTW, when converting from HTML to another HTML code, at least > id, class > >> and lang attributes shouldn't be stripped off by default. > >> > >> Many thanks for your help, > >> > >> > >> Pablo > >> -- > >> http://www.ousia.tk > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >> > >> > > > > --=20 > http://www.ousia.tk > > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google=20 > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send=20 > an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit=20 > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/33fcfdbf-3edc-4145-a7f0-= 325bfd42698fn%40googlegroups.com=20 > . --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/= pandoc-discuss/87174047-ad9b-b702-4a08-eaa3c00c511d%40gmail.com. --------------sPIZPpMOLQrL5YzWd8GQMDYJ Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

What are you trying to do? Pandoc's markdown (and so Pandoc itself) supports codeblocks (pre or code, I don't remember), divs and spans with attributes (and I believe headers too). I think paragraphs can't have attributes.

Cheers,

Sukil


El 27/06/2022 a las 11:42, 'guenael Muller' via pandoc-discuss escribi=C3=B3:
Hello all,

Up from the future (10 years !)

I have a similar issue now with playing with pandoc and weasyprint using pandoc for the templating.
What seems to be a bit curious, is that some html attribute are stripped off and some are not.

Example:

<p style=3D"xxx" lang=3D"ar" dir=3D"rtl" class=3D"test" id=3D"first">Just some text</p>
<div style=3D"xxx" lang=3D"ar" dir=3D"rtl" class=3D"test" id=3D"second">
<p>Just some text</p>
</div>

give:

<p>Just some text</p>
<div id=3D"second" class=3D"test" style=3D"xxx" lang=3D"ar" dir=3D"rtl">
<p>Just some text</p>
</div>

I don't get the logic behind the fact that HTML attribute are stripped for p and not for div. Understanding it may help me make a decision
if it's worth to adapt my HTML depending on this behavior.

Thanks for your answers,

Guenael

Le lundi 12 novembre 2012 = =C3=A0 20:14:26 UTC+1, ousia a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
Th= ank you for your explanation, John.

I'm afraid I cannot code and pandoc's internal representation of the
document (sorry if the naming isn't accurate, but this is really Greek
to me [=CF=87=CE=B1=CE=BB=CE=B5=CF=80=E1=BD=B0 =CF=84=E1=BD=B0 = =CE=BA=CE=B1=CE=BB=CE=AC, I agree :-)]) is beyond my extremely limited
understanding on these matters.

I can understand (and I hope I'm not wrong) that pandoc cannot be as
flexible as HTML and this is on purpose. (This might be problematic for
some uses, as the Spanish law gazette uses no headings, but it
distinguishes the different <p> with different classes.)

Not focusing specifically on HTML, I think that pandoc should allow to
uniquely identify, add to a class and set the language to any element,
desired text span or division.

I know that this is related to a couple of messages I sent yesterday.
Sorry for repeating myself, but these are basic features to write documents.

From the documentation perspective, it would be to apply the type Attr
to any constructor from data Block and Inline. And to data TableCell.

Although language could be defined as a key-value pair in type Attr, I
think is clearer to define a new specific language attribute.

Is there anything wrong with this approach?

Many thanks for your help,



Pablo

On 11/11/12 23:36, John MacFarlane wrote:
> You've got to remember that pandoc converts the input format to an
> internal representation of the document (the 'Pandoc' structure), and
> then converts that to the output format.
>
> This internal representation (see
> http:/= /hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/pandoc-types/1.9.1/doc/html/Text-Pand= oc-Definition.html)
> is much less expressive than HTML, and doesn't have a place for the
> attributes you want. That's why they are lost on HTML -> HTML
> translation.
>
> +++ Pablo Rodr=C3=ADguez [Nov 11 12 12:19 ]:
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I'm using pandoc mainly to generate ePub files.
>>
>> I used textile first as source language, but it isn't fully implemented
>> by pandoc and textile itself has issues with multiparagraph elements.
>>
>> It seems HTML is probably a much better option for pandoc as source
>> language, although I have to forget footnotes. There is no way to have
>> it all.
>>
>> But pandoc strips almost all attributes from HTML elements.
>>
>> A minimal sample:
>>
>> <ol start=3D"2" style=3D"list-style-type:lower-latin;">
>> <li><p>Well there is no other way to tag <em lang=3D"la">lingua
>> latina</em>.</p>
>> <li><p>Or even classes or ids.</p>.</li>
>> </ol>
>>
>> Would it be possible that there is an option that doesn't strip off
>> attributes from HTML code?
>>
>> BTW, when converting from HTML to another HTML code, at least id, class
>> and lang attributes shouldn't be stripped off by default.
>>
>> Many thanks for your help,
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>> Pablo
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