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In Icelandic it would be > feminine, masculine or neuter depending on whether the list of others is > all female, all male or mixed. Neuter for a mixed list? That's interesting (and very good! ;-) But why not stick to the Latin "et al." then? It has the gender abbreviated out of it, and has the additional advantage that no localisation is necessary (well, not in Europe, anyway...)) -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments