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[162.129.8.200]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7si3621382qcm.2.2014.09.30.13.52.43 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: prvs=34383414d=jrosenthal-4GNroTWusrE@public.gmane.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=162.129.8.200; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.04,629,1406606400"; d="scan'208";a="424221136" Original-Received: from guppy.hwcampus.jhu.edu (HELO localhost) ([10.161.33.108]) by ipex1.johnshopkins.edu with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 30 Sep 2014 16:52:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20140927041953.GA38502-bi+AKbBUZKbivNSvqvJHCtPlBySK3R6THiGdP5j34PU@public.gmane.org> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.18.1+65~g9f0f30f (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.3.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Original-Sender: jrosenthal-4GNroTWusrE@public.gmane.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: prvs=34383414d=jrosenthal-4GNroTWusrE@public.gmane.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=prvs=34383414d=jrosenthal-4GNroTWusrE@public.gmane.org Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.text.pandoc:11015 Archived-At: John MacFarlane writes: > The question is this: in footnote styles, how SHOULD a citation that > appears inside a note be formatted? Clearly not as a footnote, but > unfortunately beyond that the style won't give us guidance. Should > it be a separate sentence? In parentheses? In brackets? These are > all stylistic variations, but the style can't help us here because > it's a note style. Flipping through books from a number of presses with footnote styles on my desk, the following seems to be the rule: 1. A footnote containing only the citation should be identical to an @-citation. I.e, in a footnote style: foo.[^1] [^1]: [@dickens:dorrit, p. 15] == foo [@dickens:dorrit, p. 15] 2. A footnote containing the citation mixed in with other text should be separated from that text by a period. So foo. [^1] [^1]: "Blah blah blah" [@dickens:dorrit, p. 15]. == foo. [^1] [^1]: "Blah blah blah." Charles Dickens, _Little Dorrit_, ed. Stephen Wall and Helen Small (New York: Penguin, 1998), 15. (or whatever) depending on the style. 3. Anything else should be integrated into the text without being set off by a period. I would propose the following heuristic for distinguishing between (2) and (3): if the citation is followed by a period, it should be set off by a period, as in (2); if it isn't punctuation is left to the author.