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(The problem then is if I can get Quarto/ACM to use biblatex > instead of bibtex, but I'll take that elsewhere.) Just tell them that BibTeX was last updated in 1988. That's three years before Linux's initial release, two years before the release of Windows 3.0, at a time when people had a C64 at home, or possibly an MSX if they were living in Japan, Brazil or some parts of Europe. Or, put differently, at a time when the PhD students that the editors have doing their grunt work weren't even born yet. If that doesn't convince them, nothing will. -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments