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From: support1-ZohPw8X7yHTQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
To: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Markdown for AMP Project https://www.ampproject.org/
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 23:54:39 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <88b0c4eb-44b6-4e45-966a-97b91a56097d@googlegroups.com> (raw)
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Alright, I asked for AMP configuration (I was thinking something like Lua 
or whatever is possible to configure pandoc), and I assume there is none 
such. I wish to get one in future, if anybody makes it.

On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 1:07:56 AM UTC+3, Kolen Cheung wrote:

> Oh, right, yes AMP does get higher page rank. But by how much? And how 
> high it will becomes to make the rank relevant? Who are your competitors, 
> such that a similar search would have involve another blogs/sites such that 
> they have the budget to develop a separate version of their website in AMP?
>

My understanding is that similar text published as AMP may get better 
exposure, faster loading, thus faster publishing through Google, and this 
in turn may bring new clients, and more business. 

When I am using markdown to generate HTML pages, the extra budget to 
develop a separate AMP page for thousands of pages is just the web space 
expense, plus some little adaptation, to run markdown twice, the second 
time to create the AMP page. 

Because some tags are different, pandoc is for me the only markdown variety 
that may produce such result. I did not study myself the Lua configuration 
yet to be able to make it myself.

As simple as that. 

I'm just reiterating the point that only those who has fat budget might be 
> able to deliver AMP in addition to what they were already delivering, and 
> those may only have minor overlap with your articles. 
>

I maintain just 30-40 websites, I don't know, maybe few thousands of pages, 
and the budget is so little of importance, as we already use more web space 
and pay for it, then it is required. It is not even a gigabyte more of 
pages, probably 100 megabytes or less.
 

> And then let say it move your article from rank 1000000 to rank 10000, 
> would that be relevant? 
>

The question is not relevant. When competing with other websites, and AMP 
is the main page, the AMP will get priority with Google. It affects mobile 
search ranking, and it is logical.
 

> Only when you are so popular to be able to land on the first page of the 
> search, you might need to worry about any potential benefits of page rank 
> from AMP.
>

Exactly.  That is my experience since long time, and I don't even consider 
using AMP for other reasons but competing on first page.

Yet popularity was not the subject. 

It is understandable that there are reasons for creating AMP pages. There 
is communication channel, that is Google, and Google will give priorities 
to AMP pages on mobile channel, and mobile channel is today and in future 
more and more important.

While AMP pages may be cached by Google, for me it does not matter, it is 
similar as distributing the flyer that is distributed from hands of third 
parties, instead of my hand, the message get across. That is what matters 
to me, not to every website publisher.


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2017-04-29 13:49 support1-ZohPw8X7yHTQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found] ` <74722d2b-3362-48e3-a0b4-fa4502bc8005-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-29 23:04   ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]     ` <436da55e-15b1-4571-8716-bc35ae061e22-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-30  0:01       ` support1-ZohPw8X7yHTQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]         ` <3ec5c6ae-f370-4c7f-a582-319ca909ede9-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-30  0:26           ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]             ` <ca2d1fee-a395-490e-a5e2-8d1142691356-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-30  0:28               ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                 ` <aefedaf2-8b5f-48a4-ab4f-b64ef59390f7-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-30  1:07                   ` Kolen Cheung
2017-04-30  5:42   ` support1-ZohPw8X7yHTQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]     ` <c45270dd-d9c6-4ac8-9d1d-84652642bc6b-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-30 22:07       ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]         ` <886bb176-054d-4e41-ba2e-7058e30ad355-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-01  6:54           ` support1-ZohPw8X7yHTQT0dZR+AlfA [this message]
2017-05-01  7:04           ` support1-ZohPw8X7yHTQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]             ` <382a2f59-fca3-4409-8b05-10bd7e884a70-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-01 11:13               ` Albert Krewinkel
     [not found]                 ` <87fugosud3.fsf-NJ6QtbQ9hATDZamjJ9D3v6C1jgCzLlUE@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-01 12:48                   ` RCDRUN
2017-05-01 16:39               ` Fernando Botelho
     [not found]                 ` <01c43386-de61-d9c5-7db0-9e422e7aeddd-mxjLRozsjzA@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-01 17:14                   ` RCDRUN
     [not found]                     ` <20170501171417.GA2499-vvHXCvOI15V+RnA8QueWCFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-02 21:09                       ` mb21
     [not found]                         ` <a1643278-9ec1-46a7-80d8-c0238b5b9f22-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-02 21:24                           ` support1-ZohPw8X7yHTQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                             ` <20170502212420.GB3957-vvHXCvOI15V+RnA8QueWCFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-03  1:15                               ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                 ` <8fe02f4f-a2e4-4c86-ad1c-3fc90cdfdb72-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-03  8:31                                   ` support1-ZohPw8X7yHTQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                                     ` <20170503083101.GE15640-vvHXCvOI15V+RnA8QueWCFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-03 19:23                                       ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                         ` <b7a15adb-8e28-4d0a-9aa5-7c77b4f4f4eb-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-03 20:36                                           ` support1-ZohPw8X7yHTQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                                             ` <20170503203659.GD11153-vvHXCvOI15V+RnA8QueWCFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-04  4:52                                               ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                                 ` <e69fce56-6677-4918-830e-ffe4fcd60cb0-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-04  8:22                                                   ` support1-ZohPw8X7yHTQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                                                     ` <20170504082251.GC14964-vvHXCvOI15V+RnA8QueWCFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-04 19:27                                                       ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                                         ` <b9d11088-d6ac-432b-8206-03e1962d66a1-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-22  6:44                                                           ` Kolen Cheung
2017-05-03  9:47                               ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                 ` <20170503094738.GB17566-BKjuZOBx5Kn2N3qrpRCZGbhGAdq7xJNKhPhL2mjWHbk@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-03 10:09                                   ` support1-ZohPw8X7yHTQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                                     ` <20170503100958.GB1547-vvHXCvOI15V+RnA8QueWCFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-03 10:28                                       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                         ` <20170503102852.GF17566-BKjuZOBx5Kn2N3qrpRCZGbhGAdq7xJNKhPhL2mjWHbk@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-03 11:09                                           ` RCDRUN
2017-05-01 17:14                   ` RCDRUN

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