Re: Moving footnotes to just after paragraph with the citation

[Lyndon Drake <isenguard-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>]

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I think a custom writer is a bit beyond my capability at the moment. I can 
see that you can do some very cool stuff with custom writers though!

On Wednesday, 22 November 2023 at 04:54:46 UTC-8 William Lupton wrote:

> If --reference-location=block turns out not to be sufficient, I don't 
> think a lua filter will help, but a custom writer could (the writer is 
> responsible for handling footnotes).
>
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 at 12:23, EBkysko <ebk...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> Note there's a caveat to this solution: as the guide mentions, with 
>> 'block' the notes are placed at the end of the current **top-level** block, 
>> which might not be the paragraph itself.
>>
>> Examples:
>>
>>    - If the paragraph is an item in a list, the note is placed below the 
>>    list, not the item (and below main list if a nested list).
>>    - If the paragraph is within a fenced div, the note is placed after 
>>    the fenced div.
>>    - A corollary to the above: if a filter uses `make_sections`, the 
>>    notes might end up at end of document after all.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 9:55:26 PM UTC-5 Lyndon Drake wrote:
>>
>>> Brilliant @EBkysko — that works exactly as I'd hoped. Thank you!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 21 November 2023 at 19:11:24 UTC-6 EBkysko wrote:
>>>
>>>> try (with markdown output 
>>>> <https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#options-affecting-specific-writers>)
>>>>
>>>> ```
>>>> --reference-location=block
>>>> ``` 
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 4:23:57 PM UTC-5 Gwern Branwen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This seems possibly tricky? I don't know what the Lua filters can or 
>>>>> cannot do, but I'm not sure how one could solve this using just the Haskell 
>>>>> API... Pandoc was not designed as a source-2-source processor so it doesn't 
>>>>> make much effort to support Markdown-to-Markdown passes - like the obvious 
>>>>> roundtrip will potentially change your Markdown formatting to a 
>>>>> semantically-equivalent but entirely different-looking Markdown doc. 
>>>>> (Macfarlane has said repeatedly that this will not be changed.)
>>>>>
>>>>> In your case, footnotes throw away the positioning information.
>>>>> Consider the 3 possibilities:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Foo[^foo].
>>>>>
>>>>>     Foo bar^[Bar.]
>>>>>
>>>>>     Foo baz[^baz]
>>>>>
>>>>>     [^baz]: Baz.
>>>>>  
>>>>>     [^foo]: foo.
>>>>>
>>>>> This parses into:
>>>>>
>>>>> [ Para
>>>>>     [ Str "Foo" , Note [ Para [ Str "foo." ] ] , Str "." ]
>>>>> , Para
>>>>>     [ Str "Foo"
>>>>>     , Space
>>>>>     , Str "bar"
>>>>>     , Note [ Para [ Str "Bar." ] ]
>>>>>     ]
>>>>> , Para
>>>>>     [ Str "Foo"
>>>>>     , Space
>>>>>     , Str "baz"
>>>>>     , Note [ Para [ Str "Baz." ] ]
>>>>>     ]
>>>>> ]
>>>>>
>>>>> So you can't know 'where' a footnote body was put, whether at the end 
>>>>> of the doc or elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> Further, Pandoc will write out the Markdown according to its own 
>>>>> conventions, which go opposite of what you want, by putting *all* footnote 
>>>>> bodies at the end, regardless of where they were or whether they could be 
>>>>> inline footnotes, and the Markdown writer probably takes no options which 
>>>>> would change that:
>>>>>
>>>>> Foo[^1].
>>>>>
>>>>> Foo bar[^2]
>>>>>
>>>>> Foo baz[^3]
>>>>>
>>>>> [^1]: foo.
>>>>>
>>>>> [^2]: Bar.
>>>>>
>>>>> [^3]: Baz.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> gwern
>>>>> https://gwern.net <https://www.gwern.net>
>>>>>
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