The biblatex-chicago comes with a myriad of commands for basically every kind of situation you can possibly think of. I’m quite sure you can find a command there that works in your particular situation. However, that would mean writing latex directly, which may not be what you want. High-level wrappers like autocite only get you so far ...
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Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
Thank you – that looks perfect!
(It does break the slight bodge I had made on some of my more extended footnotes, but I will either have to adjust that, or dump less material in my footnotes...)
On Monday, 10 May 2021 at 10:35:02 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
Ok. Biblatex-chicago comes with a command \headlesscite with is already quite close to what you want. The definition is:
```
\DeclareCiteCommand{\headlesscite}
{\usebibmacro{prenote}}
{\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
\toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}%
\usebibmacro{clear+labelname}%
\usebibmacro \clearname{labelname}%
{cite}%
\global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}%
{\multicitedelim}
{\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
```
We can now simply take that definiton for the starred variant of footcite:
```
\DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote]
{\usebibmacro{prenote}}
{\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
\toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}%
\usebibmacro{clear+labelname}%
\clearname{labelname}%
\usebibmacro{cite}%
\global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}%
{\multicitedelim}
{\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
```
It will start working for \autocite* after these two lines:
```
\DeclareAutoCiteCommand{footnote}[l]{\footcite}{\footcites}
\ExecuteBibliographyOptions{autocite=footnote}
```
MWE below, PDF attached.
HTH,
Denis
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\documentclass{article}
\begin{filecontents}[overwrite]{test.bib}
@book{schillebeeckx1952,
title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
year = {1952},
publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
address = {{Antwerpen}}
}
@book{schillebeeckx1964,
title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
year = {1964},
edition = {7de dr.},
publisher = {{Nelissen}},
address = {{Bilthoven}}
}
@book{schillebeeckx1967a,
title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
year = {1967},
publisher = {{Nelissen}},
address = {{Bilthoven}}
}
@book{schillebeeckx2005,
title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
year = {2005},
edition = {First published 1967},
publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
address = {{London}},
isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
keywords = {Transubstantiation},
lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
}
@book{schillebeeckx2014n,
title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
year = {2014},
edition = {First published 1959},
publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
address = {{London}},
isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
number = {1},
series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
}
\end{filecontents}
\usepackage[notes,backend=biber]{biblatex-chicago}
\addbibresource{test.bib}
% Declare footcite* just as headlesscite, but wrap it in a footnote
\DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote]
{\usebibmacro{prenote}}
{\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
\toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}%
\usebibmacro{clear+labelname}%
\clearname{labelname}%
\usebibmacro{cite}%
\global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}%
{\multicitedelim}
{\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
% This is needed for these changes to take effect.
\DeclareAutoCiteCommand{footnote}[l]{\footcite}{\footcites}
\ExecuteBibliographyOptions{autocite=footnote}
\begin{document}
\autocite*{schillebeeckx1952}
%\footcite*{schillebeeckx1952}
\end{document}
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> Von: pandoc-...@googlegroups.com <pandoc-
> dis...@googlegroups.com> Im Auftrag von denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> Gesendet: Montag, 10. Mai 2021 00:07
> An: pandoc-...@googlegroups.com
> Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
>
> \DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote]
> {\usebibmacro{prenote}}%\bibsentence
> {\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
> %\usebibmacro{cite}
> \usebibmacro{cite-without-author}}
> {\multicitedelim}
> {\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: Maier, Denis Christian (UB)
> Gesendet: Montag, 10. Mai 2021 00:02:15
> An: pandoc-discuss
> Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Biblatex-chicago defines autocite as footcute. The star is simply being passed
> through. As there us no definition for footcite*, footcite* uses footcite* as a
> fallback.
> So, we need a definition for footcite* (\DeclareCiteCommand). In that
> definition, call a big macro that doesn't print the authors.
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: pandoc-...@googlegroups.com <pandoc-
> dis...@googlegroups.com> im Auftrag von Tom McLean
> <thomaspa...@gmail.com>
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Mai 2021 23:24:07
> An: pandoc-discuss
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Can't renewcommand and newcommand both only take one optional
> argument? autocite takes two (comments before and after the reference),
> and while I don't think that causes me a problem in this instance, I'd rather a
> solution that doesn't limit that if that's possible.
>
>
> On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 21:39:06 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
> I don't think renewcommand is the best solution. There's a special interface
> for citation commands.
> ________________________________________
> Von: pandoc-...@googlegroups.com <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Mai 2021 21:31:05
> An: pandoc-...@googlegroups.com
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Renewing \autocite* seems to be a good approach. So please try again and
> reproduce your exact commands if the error persists!
>
> Le Sunday 09 May 2021 à 12:14:40PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > Wouldn't that method also require me to manually insert
> > \clearname{author} for all the relevant citations? At least, my quick
> > attempt didn't seem happy with either \newcommand{\autocite*} or
> > \renewcomand{\autocite*} – the former objecting because the unstarred
> > version exists, and the latter because the starred doesn't. (Though I
> > don't rule out the possibility of an error in the rest of the
> > arguments to \(re)newcommand being part of the problem...)
> >
> > On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 17:04:59 UTC+2 jcr wrote:
> >
> > I meant \clearname{author}
> >
> > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:01:57 PM UTC+2 jcr wrote:
> >
> > See the first answer to this question:
> > https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/ 262472/ I don't know if exactly the
> > same code will work with biblatex-chicago, but it shows the general
> > approach. You want to make a command to suppress printing of the
> > author (in the linked answer, it's called \int@suppauth), and then
> > invoke it at the beginning of the starred cite commands you declare.
> > If it's sufficient to suppress the author's name, that command can be
> > \clearname{authorname}, but Chicago style will substitute an editor or
> > translator, so if the citations in question have one of those, you need a
> more sophisticated solution.
> >
> > On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:43:44 PM UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...@googlegroups.com <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:40:12
> > An: pandoc-discuss
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then!
> >
> > On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > wrote:
> > I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may
> > want to look into how the standard styles do this.
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...@googlegroups.com <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > Auftrag von denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org <denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39
> > An: pandoc-...@googlegroups.com
> > Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in biblatex
> > styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
> >
> > Denis
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...@googlegroups.com <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50
> > An: pandoc-discuss
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration,
> > can anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on how
> > to do so.
> >
> > Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving in
> > the way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
> >
> > On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > wrote:
> > Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat
> > unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at https:/
> > /www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago<http://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-
> ch
> > icago>
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...@googlegroups.com <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
> > An: pandoc-...@googlegroups.com
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > biblatex-chicago (via biber)
> >
> > Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit
> > :
> > > What's the citation style?
> > >
> > > Denis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > Von: pandoc-...@googlegroups.com <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
> > > An: pandoc-...@googlegroups.com
> > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> > >
> > > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}.
> > From biblatex's manual
> > > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave
> > differently from the regular
> > > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command."
> > So you should probably
> > > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a
> > no-author command (but I
> > > can't tell you more.
> > >
> > > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
> > > >
> > > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a
> > pdf that shows
> > > > what I'm getting.
> > > >
> > > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of
> > what I'm using
> > > > in case it's not a pandoc error!
> > > >
> > > > Thank you
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a
> > footnote are
> > > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you
> > could provide a
> > > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this
> > problem.
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the
> > footnote!
> > > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the
> > citation,
> > > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need
> > to
> > > > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> > > > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
> > > >
> > > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling to
> > > > suppress author in the reference.
> > > >
> > > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> > > > example):
> > > >
> > > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982; -@schillebeeckx1989c]
> > > >
> > > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
> > > >
> > > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> > > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx, Gerechtigheid
> > > > En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> > > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van God
> > > > (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
> > > >
> > > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> > > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
> > > >
> > > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> > > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote, which
> > > > I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's any tricks
> > > > anyone can share on how to fix those (if different), advice
> > > > welcomed!
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks
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> > > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952;
> > -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a;
> > -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work
> > is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology
> > of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the
> > philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a
> > framework shaped by phenomenology.
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> > > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}}, author =
> > > > {Schillebeeckx, Henricus}, year = {1952}, publisher = {{'T
> > > > Groeit}}, address = {{Antwerpen}} }
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> > > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting}, author =
> > > > {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, year = {1964}, edition = {7de dr.},
> > > > publisher = {{Nelissen}}, address = {{Bilthoven}} }
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> > > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie}, author =
> > > > {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, year = {1967}, publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > > address = {{Bilthoven}} }
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> > > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> > > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > > year = {2005},
> > > > edition = {First published 1967},
> > > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> > > > address = {{London}},
> > > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> > > > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> > > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> > > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> > > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}}, author = {Schillebeeckx,
> > > > Edward}, year = {2014}, edition = {First published 1959},
> > > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}}, address = {{London}}, isbn =
> > > > {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6}, keywords
> > > > = {Catholic Church,Sacraments}, number = {1}, series = {The
> > > > Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}} }
> > > >
> > > >
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