* Suppressing author in citation
@ 2021-05-06 20:22 ` Tom McLean
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From: Tom McLean @ 2021-05-06 20:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial mistake, but I
can't see for looking...
I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling to suppress
author in the reference.
The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for example):
[-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982; -@schillebeeckx1989c]
which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
3. Edward Schillebeeckx, *Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende* (Bloemendaal:
Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx, *Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En
Bevrijding* (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, *Mensen
Als Verhaal van God* (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
I thought that this should be with author's name removed...? Any ideas what
I'm doing wrong?
I have some more complex references too, which are showing the same
problem, but these occur within an extended footnote, which I've created as
a footnote in the .md file. If there's any tricks anyone can share on how
to fix those (if different), advice welcomed!
Many thanks
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@ 2021-05-07 17:06 ` gnpan
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From: gnpan @ 2021-05-07 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
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The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation, not the
formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to modify your csl
file to omit the author names.
On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
> Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial mistake, but I
> can't see for looking...
>
> I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling to suppress
> author in the reference.
>
> The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for example):
>
> [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982; -@schillebeeckx1989c]
>
> which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
>
> 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, *Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende*
> (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx, *Gerechtigheid En
> Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding* (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1982); Edward
> Schillebeeckx, *Mensen Als Verhaal van God* (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
>
> I thought that this should be with author's name removed...? Any ideas
> what I'm doing wrong?
>
> I have some more complex references too, which are showing the same
> problem, but these occur within an extended footnote, which I've created as
> a footnote in the .md file. If there's any tricks anyone can share on how
> to fix those (if different), advice welcomed!
>
> Many thanks
>
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@ 2021-05-07 17:23 ` Tom McLean
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From: Tom McLean @ 2021-05-07 17:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss
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Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the footnote! The
bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation, not the
> formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to modify your csl
> file to omit the author names.
>
> On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
>
>> Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial mistake, but I
>> can't see for looking...
>>
>> I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling to
>> suppress author in the reference.
>>
>> The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for example):
>>
>> [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982; -@schillebeeckx1989c]
>>
>> which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
>>
>> 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, *Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende*
>> (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx, *Gerechtigheid En
>> Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding* (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1982); Edward
>> Schillebeeckx, *Mensen Als Verhaal van God* (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
>>
>> I thought that this should be with author's name removed...? Any ideas
>> what I'm doing wrong?
>>
>> I have some more complex references too, which are showing the same
>> problem, but these occur within an extended footnote, which I've created as
>> a footnote in the .md file. If there's any tricks anyone can share on how
>> to fix those (if different), advice welcomed!
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>
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@ 2021-05-07 18:03 ` gnpan
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From: gnpan @ 2021-05-07 18:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss
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OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a footnote are
formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you could provide a
minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this problem.
On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
> Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the footnote! The
> bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
>
> On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
>
>> The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation, not
>> the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to modify your
>> csl file to omit the author names.
>>
>> On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
>>
>>> Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial mistake, but
>>> I can't see for looking...
>>>
>>> I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling to
>>> suppress author in the reference.
>>>
>>> The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for example):
>>>
>>> [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982; -@schillebeeckx1989c]
>>>
>>> which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
>>>
>>> 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, *Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende*
>>> (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx, *Gerechtigheid En
>>> Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding* (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1982); Edward
>>> Schillebeeckx, *Mensen Als Verhaal van God* (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
>>>
>>> I thought that this should be with author's name removed...? Any ideas
>>> what I'm doing wrong?
>>>
>>> I have some more complex references too, which are showing the same
>>> problem, but these occur within an extended footnote, which I've created as
>>> a footnote in the .md file. If there's any tricks anyone can share on how
>>> to fix those (if different), advice welcomed!
>>>
>>> Many thanks
>>>
>>
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@ 2021-05-07 20:53 ` Tom McLean
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From: Tom McLean @ 2021-05-07 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss
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Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a pdf that
shows what I'm getting.
Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of what I'm
using in case it's not a pandoc error!
Thank you
On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a footnote are
> formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you could provide a
> minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this problem.
>
> On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
>
>> Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the footnote! The
>> bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
>>
>> On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
>>
>>> The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation, not
>>> the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to modify your
>>> csl file to omit the author names.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial mistake, but
>>>> I can't see for looking...
>>>>
>>>> I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling to
>>>> suppress author in the reference.
>>>>
>>>> The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for example):
>>>>
>>>> [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982; -@schillebeeckx1989c]
>>>>
>>>> which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
>>>>
>>>> 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, *Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende*
>>>> (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx, *Gerechtigheid En
>>>> Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding* (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1982); Edward
>>>> Schillebeeckx, *Mensen Als Verhaal van God* (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
>>>>
>>>> I thought that this should be with author's name removed...? Any ideas
>>>> what I'm doing wrong?
>>>>
>>>> I have some more complex references too, which are showing the same
>>>> problem, but these occur within an extended footnote, which I've created as
>>>> a footnote in the .md file. If there's any tricks anyone can share on how
>>>> to fix those (if different), advice welcomed!
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks
>>>>
>>>
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published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952; -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a; -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a framework shaped by phenomenology.
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@book{schillebeeckx1952,
title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
year = {1952},
publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
address = {{Antwerpen}}
}
@book{schillebeeckx1964,
title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
year = {1964},
edition = {7de dr.},
publisher = {{Nelissen}},
address = {{Bilthoven}}
}
@book{schillebeeckx1967a,
title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
year = {1967},
publisher = {{Nelissen}},
address = {{Bilthoven}}
}
@book{schillebeeckx2005,
title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
year = {2005},
edition = {First published 1967},
publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
address = {{London}},
isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
keywords = {Transubstantiation},
lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
}
@book{schillebeeckx2014n,
title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
year = {2014},
edition = {First published 1959},
publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
address = {{London}},
isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
number = {1},
series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
}
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@ 2021-05-08 6:41 ` gnpan
2021-05-08 9:02 ` Bastien DUMONT
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From: gnpan @ 2021-05-08 6:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
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If I understand correctly, what you are trying to achieve is shown in the
pdf I attach here, i.e. a formated reference in the footnote, without the
authors' names. To do this, I used a csl file such as
<https://www.zotero.org/styles?q=chicago-fullnote-bibliography-short-title-subsequent&format=note>
(there are plenty more with the "note" style), added the following yaml
header to your text.md file:
---
bibliography: test.bib
csl: chicago-fullnote-bibliography-short-title-subsequent.csl
suppress-bibliography: true
---
and then run:
pandoc --citeproc -o test.pdf test.md
I attach the md, csl and pdf files for you to try. Sorry, but I can't
comment on your workflow (sh and index files), too complex for me!
On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 23:53:43 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
> Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
>
> Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a pdf that
> shows what I'm getting.
>
> Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of what I'm
> using in case it's not a pandoc error!
>
> Thank you
>
> On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
>
>> OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a footnote are
>> formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you could provide a
>> minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this problem.
>>
>> On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the footnote! The
>>> bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
>>>
>>> On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
>>>
>>>> The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation, not
>>>> the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to modify your
>>>> csl file to omit the author names.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial mistake,
>>>>> but I can't see for looking...
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling to
>>>>> suppress author in the reference.
>>>>>
>>>>> The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for example):
>>>>>
>>>>> [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982; -@schillebeeckx1989c]
>>>>>
>>>>> which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, *Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende*
>>>>> (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx, *Gerechtigheid
>>>>> En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding* (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1982);
>>>>> Edward Schillebeeckx, *Mensen Als Verhaal van God* (Baarn: Nelissen,
>>>>> 1989).
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought that this should be with author's name removed...? Any ideas
>>>>> what I'm doing wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have some more complex references too, which are showing the same
>>>>> problem, but these occur within an extended footnote, which I've created as
>>>>> a footnote in the .md file. If there's any tricks anyone can share on how
>>>>> to fix those (if different), advice welcomed!
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>>
>>>>
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<email>julian.onions-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org</email>
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<contributor>
<name>Sebastian Karcher</name>
</contributor>
<contributor>
<name>Brenton M. Wiernik</name>
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<category field="generic-base"/>
<summary>Chicago format with full notes and bibliography</summary>
<updated>2020-04-26T18:22:50+00:00</updated>
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</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="container-contributors">
<choose>
<if type="chapter entry-dictionary entry-encyclopedia paper-conference" match="any">
<group delimiter=", ">
<choose>
<if variable="author">
<choose>
<if variable="container-author" match="any">
<names variable="container-author">
<label form="verb-short" text-case="lowercase" suffix=" "/>
<name and="text" delimiter=", "/>
</names>
</if>
</choose>
<!--This includes page numers after the container author, e.g. for Introductions -->
<choose>
<if variable="container-author author" match="all">
<group delimiter=". ">
<text variable="page"/>
<names variable="editor translator" delimiter=", ">
<label form="verb" suffix=" "/>
<name and="text" delimiter=", "/>
</names>
</group>
</if>
<else>
<names variable="editor translator" delimiter=", ">
<label form="verb" text-case="lowercase" suffix=" "/>
<name and="text" delimiter=", "/>
</names>
</else>
</choose>
</if>
</choose>
</group>
</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="recipient-note">
<names variable="recipient" delimiter=", ">
<label form="verb" text-case="lowercase" suffix=" "/>
<name and="text" delimiter=", "/>
</names>
</macro>
<macro name="contributors-note">
<group delimiter=" ">
<names variable="author">
<name and="text" sort-separator=", " delimiter=", "/>
<label form="short" prefix=", "/>
<substitute>
<names variable="editor"/>
<names variable="translator"/>
</substitute>
</names>
<text macro="recipient-note"/>
</group>
</macro>
<macro name="editor">
<names variable="editor">
<name name-as-sort-order="first" and="text" sort-separator=", " delimiter=", " delimiter-precedes-last="always"/>
<label form="short" prefix=", "/>
</names>
</macro>
<macro name="translator">
<names variable="translator">
<name name-as-sort-order="first" and="text" sort-separator=", " delimiter=", " delimiter-precedes-last="always"/>
<label form="verb-short" prefix=", "/>
</names>
</macro>
<macro name="recipient">
<group delimiter=" ">
<choose>
<if type="personal_communication">
<choose>
<if variable="genre">
<text variable="genre" text-case="capitalize-first"/>
</if>
<else>
<text term="letter" text-case="capitalize-first"/>
</else>
</choose>
</if>
</choose>
<text macro="recipient-note"/>
</group>
</macro>
<macro name="contributors">
<group delimiter=". ">
<names variable="author">
<name name-as-sort-order="first" and="text" sort-separator=", " delimiter=", " delimiter-precedes-last="always"/>
<substitute>
<text macro="editor"/>
<text macro="translator"/>
<choose>
<if type="webpage post-weblog" match="any">
<text variable="container-title"/>
</if>
</choose>
</substitute>
</names>
<text macro="recipient"/>
</group>
</macro>
<macro name="recipient-short">
<names variable="recipient">
<label form="verb" text-case="lowercase" suffix=" "/>
<name form="short" and="text" delimiter=", "/>
</names>
</macro>
<macro name="contributors-short">
<group delimiter=" ">
<names variable="author">
<name form="short" and="text" delimiter=", "/>
<substitute>
<names variable="editor"/>
<names variable="translator"/>
</substitute>
</names>
<text macro="recipient-short"/>
</group>
</macro>
<macro name="contributors-sort">
<names variable="author">
<name name-as-sort-order="all" and="text" sort-separator=", " delimiter=", " delimiter-precedes-last="always"/>
<substitute>
<names variable="editor"/>
<names variable="translator"/>
<text macro="title"/>
</substitute>
</names>
</macro>
<macro name="interviewer-note">
<names variable="interviewer" delimiter=", ">
<label form="verb" text-case="lowercase" suffix=" "/>
<name and="text" delimiter=", "/>
</names>
</macro>
<macro name="interviewer">
<names variable="interviewer" delimiter=", ">
<label form="verb" text-case="capitalize-first" suffix=" "/>
<name and="text" delimiter=", "/>
</names>
</macro>
<macro name="title-note">
<choose>
<if variable="title" match="none">
<text variable="genre"/>
</if>
<else-if type="book graphic map motion_picture song" match="any">
<text variable="title" text-case="title" font-style="italic"/>
<group delimiter=" " prefix=", ">
<text term="version"/>
<text variable="version"/>
</group>
</else-if>
<else-if type="legal_case interview patent" match="any">
<text variable="title"/>
</else-if>
<else-if variable="reviewed-author">
<text variable="title" font-style="italic" prefix="review of "/>
</else-if>
<else>
<text variable="title" text-case="title" quotes="true"/>
</else>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="title">
<choose>
<if variable="title" match="none">
<choose>
<if type="personal_communication" match="none">
<text variable="genre" text-case="capitalize-first"/>
</if>
</choose>
</if>
<else-if type="book graphic motion_picture song" match="any">
<text variable="title" text-case="title" font-style="italic"/>
<group prefix=" (" suffix=")" delimiter=" ">
<text term="version"/>
<text variable="version"/>
</group>
</else-if>
<else-if variable="reviewed-author">
<group delimiter=", ">
<text variable="title" font-style="italic" prefix="Review of "/>
<names variable="reviewed-author">
<label form="verb-short" text-case="lowercase" suffix=" "/>
<name and="text" delimiter=", "/>
</names>
</group>
</else-if>
<else-if type="bill legislation legal_case interview patent" match="any">
<text variable="title"/>
</else-if>
<else>
<text variable="title" text-case="title" quotes="true"/>
</else>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="title-short">
<choose>
<if variable="title" match="none">
<choose>
<if type="interview">
<text term="interview"/>
</if>
<else-if type="manuscript speech" match="any">
<text variable="genre" form="short"/>
</else-if>
</choose>
</if>
<else-if type="book graphic motion_picture song" match="any">
<text variable="title" text-case="title" form="short" font-style="italic"/>
</else-if>
<else-if type="legal_case" variable="title-short" match="all">
<text variable="title" font-style="italic" form="short"/>
</else-if>
<else-if type="patent interview" match="any">
<text variable="title" form="short"/>
</else-if>
<else-if type="legal_case bill legislation" match="any">
<text variable="title"/>
</else-if>
<else>
<text variable="title" text-case="title" form="short" quotes="true"/>
</else>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="date-disambiguate">
<choose>
<if disambiguate="true" type="personal_communication" match="any">
<text macro="issued"/>
</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="description-note">
<group delimiter=", ">
<text macro="interviewer-note"/>
<text variable="medium"/>
<choose>
<if variable="title" match="none"/>
<else-if type="manuscript thesis speech" match="any"/>
<else-if type="patent">
<group delimiter=" ">
<text variable="authority"/>
<text variable="number"/>
</group>
</else-if>
<else>
<text variable="genre"/>
</else>
</choose>
<choose>
<if type="map">
<text variable="scale"/>
</if>
<else-if type="graphic">
<text variable="dimensions"/>
</else-if>
</choose>
</group>
</macro>
<macro name="description">
<group delimiter=", ">
<group delimiter=". ">
<text macro="interviewer"/>
<text variable="medium" text-case="capitalize-first"/>
</group>
<choose>
<if variable="title" match="none"/>
<else-if type="thesis speech" match="any"/>
<else-if type="patent">
<group delimiter=" ">
<text variable="authority"/>
<text variable="number"/>
</group>
</else-if>
<else>
<text variable="genre" text-case="capitalize-first"/>
</else>
</choose>
<choose>
<if type="map">
<text variable="scale"/>
</if>
<else-if type="graphic">
<text variable="dimensions"/>
</else-if>
</choose>
</group>
</macro>
<macro name="container-title-note">
<group delimiter=" ">
<choose>
<if type="chapter entry-dictionary entry-encyclopedia paper-conference" match="any">
<text term="in"/>
</if>
</choose>
<choose>
<if type="webpage">
<text variable="container-title"/>
</if>
<else-if type="post-weblog">
<text variable="container-title" text-case="title" font-style="italic" suffix=" (blog)"/>
</else-if>
<else-if type="bill legislation legal_case" match="none">
<text variable="container-title" text-case="title" font-style="italic"/>
</else-if>
</choose>
</group>
</macro>
<macro name="container-title">
<group delimiter=" ">
<choose>
<if type="chapter entry-dictionary entry-encyclopedia paper-conference" match="any">
<text term="in" text-case="capitalize-first"/>
</if>
</choose>
<choose>
<if type="webpage">
<text variable="container-title"/>
</if>
<else-if type="post-weblog">
<text variable="container-title" text-case="title" font-style="italic" suffix=" (blog)"/>
</else-if>
<else-if type="bill legislation legal_case" match="none">
<text variable="container-title" text-case="title" font-style="italic"/>
</else-if>
</choose>
</group>
</macro>
<macro name="collection-title">
<choose>
<if match="none" type="article-journal">
<choose>
<if match="none" is-numeric="collection-number">
<group delimiter=", ">
<text variable="collection-title" text-case="title"/>
<text variable="collection-number"/>
</group>
</if>
<else>
<group delimiter=" ">
<text variable="collection-title" text-case="title"/>
<text variable="collection-number"/>
</group>
</else>
</choose>
</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="collection-title-journal">
<choose>
<if type="article-journal">
<group delimiter=" ">
<text variable="collection-title"/>
<text variable="collection-number"/>
</group>
</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="edition-note">
<choose>
<if type="book chapter graphic motion_picture paper-conference report song" match="any">
<choose>
<if is-numeric="edition">
<group delimiter=" ">
<number variable="edition" form="ordinal"/>
<text term="edition" form="short"/>
</group>
</if>
<else>
<text variable="edition"/>
</else>
</choose>
</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="edition">
<choose>
<if type="book chapter graphic motion_picture paper-conference report song" match="any">
<choose>
<if is-numeric="edition">
<group delimiter=" ">
<number variable="edition" form="ordinal"/>
<text term="edition" form="short"/>
</group>
</if>
<else>
<text variable="edition" text-case="capitalize-first" suffix="."/>
</else>
</choose>
</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="locators-note-join-with-space">
<choose>
<if type="article-journal" variable="volume" match="all">
<choose>
<if match="none" variable="collection-title">
<text macro="locators-note"/>
</if>
</choose>
</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="locators-note-join-with-comma">
<choose>
<if type="article-journal" match="none">
<text macro="locators-note"/>
</if>
<else-if type="article-journal">
<choose>
<if variable="volume" match="none">
<text macro="locators-note"/>
</if>
<else-if match="any" variable="collection-title">
<text macro="locators-note"/>
</else-if>
</choose>
</else-if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="locators-note">
<choose>
<if type="article-journal">
<group delimiter=", ">
<text macro="collection-title-journal"/>
<text variable="volume"/>
<group delimiter=" ">
<text term="issue" form="short"/>
<text variable="issue"/>
</group>
</group>
</if>
<else-if type="bill legislation legal_case" match="any">
<text macro="legal-cites"/>
</else-if>
<else-if type="book chapter graphic motion_picture paper-conference report song" match="any">
<group delimiter=", ">
<text macro="edition-note"/>
<group delimiter=" ">
<text term="volume" form="short"/>
<number variable="volume" form="numeric"/>
</group>
<choose>
<if variable="locator" match="none">
<group delimiter=" ">
<number variable="number-of-volumes" form="numeric"/>
<text term="volume" form="short" plural="true"/>
</group>
</if>
</choose>
</group>
</else-if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="legal-cites">
<choose>
<if type="legal_case" match="any">
<group delimiter=" ">
<choose>
<if variable="container-title">
<text variable="volume"/>
<text variable="container-title"/>
<group delimiter=" ">
<!--change to label variable="section" as that becomes available -->
<text term="section" form="symbol"/>
<text variable="section"/>
</group>
<text variable="page"/>
</if>
<else>
<text variable="number" prefix="No. "/>
</else>
</choose>
</group>
</if>
<else-if type="bill legislation" match="any">
<group delimiter=", ">
<choose>
<if variable="number">
<!--There's a public law number-->
<text variable="number" prefix="Pub. L. No. "/>
<group delimiter=" ">
<!--change to label variable="section" as that becomes available -->
<text term="section" form="symbol"/>
<text variable="section"/>
</group>
<group delimiter=" ">
<text variable="volume"/>
<text variable="container-title"/>
<text variable="page-first"/>
</group>
</if>
<else>
<group delimiter=" ">
<text variable="volume"/>
<text variable="container-title"/>
<!--change to label variable="section" as that becomes available -->
<text term="section" form="symbol"/>
<text variable="section"/>
</group>
</else>
</choose>
</group>
</else-if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="locators-join-with-space">
<choose>
<if type="article-journal" variable="volume" match="all">
<choose>
<if match="none" variable="collection-title">
<text macro="locators"/>
</if>
</choose>
</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="locators-join-with-comma">
<choose>
<if type="bill chapter legislation legal_case paper-conference" match="any">
<text macro="locators"/>
</if>
<else-if type="article-journal">
<choose>
<if variable="volume" match="none">
<text macro="locators"/>
</if>
<else-if match="any" variable="collection-title">
<text macro="locators"/>
</else-if>
</choose>
</else-if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="locators-join-with-period">
<choose>
<if type="bill legislation legal_case article-journal chapter paper-conference" match="none">
<text macro="locators"/>
</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="locators">
<choose>
<if type="article-journal">
<group delimiter=", ">
<text macro="collection-title-journal"/>
<text variable="volume"/>
<group delimiter=" ">
<text term="issue" form="short"/>
<text variable="issue"/>
</group>
</group>
</if>
<else-if type="bill legislation legal_case" match="any">
<text macro="legal-cites"/>
</else-if>
<else-if type="book graphic motion_picture report song" match="any">
<group delimiter=". ">
<text macro="edition"/>
<group delimiter=" ">
<text term="volume" form="short" text-case="capitalize-first"/>
<number variable="volume" form="numeric"/>
</group>
<group delimiter=" ">
<number variable="number-of-volumes" form="numeric"/>
<text term="volume" form="short" plural="true"/>
</group>
</group>
</else-if>
<else-if type="chapter entry-dictionary entry-encyclopedia paper-conference" match="any">
<group delimiter=". ">
<text macro="edition"/>
<choose>
<if variable="page" match="none">
<group delimiter=" ">
<text term="volume" form="short" text-case="capitalize-first"/>
<number variable="volume" form="numeric"/>
</group>
</if>
</choose>
</group>
</else-if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="locators-newspaper">
<choose>
<if type="article-newspaper">
<group delimiter=", ">
<group delimiter=" ">
<number variable="edition"/>
<text term="edition"/>
</group>
<group delimiter=" ">
<text term="section" form="short"/>
<text variable="section"/>
</group>
</group>
</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="event-note">
<text variable="event"/>
</macro>
<macro name="event">
<choose>
<if variable="title">
<group delimiter=" ">
<choose>
<if variable="genre">
<text term="presented at"/>
</if>
<else>
<text term="presented at" text-case="capitalize-first"/>
</else>
</choose>
<text variable="event"/>
</group>
</if>
<else>
<group delimiter=" ">
<text term="presented at" text-case="capitalize-first"/>
<text variable="event"/>
</group>
</else>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="originally-published">
<group delimiter=", ">
<group delimiter=": ">
<text variable="original-publisher-place"/>
<text variable="original-publisher"/>
</group>
<choose>
<if is-uncertain-date="original-date">
<date variable="original-date" form="numeric" date-parts="year" prefix="[" suffix="?]"/>
</if>
<else>
<date variable="original-date" form="numeric" date-parts="year"/>
</else>
</choose>
</group>
</macro>
<macro name="reprint-note">
<!--needs localization-->
<choose>
<if variable="original-date issued" match="all">
<choose>
<!--for whatever reason in notes, when we have both original and new publishers, reprint doesn't appear-->
<if variable="original-publisher original-publisher-place" match="none">
<text value="repr."/>
</if>
</choose>
</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="reprint">
<!--needs localization-->
<choose>
<if variable="original-date issued" match="all">
<text value="reprint" text-case="capitalize-first"/>
</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="publisher">
<choose>
<if type="thesis">
<text variable="publisher"/>
</if>
<else-if type="speech">
<text variable="event-place"/>
</else-if>
<else>
<group delimiter=": ">
<text variable="publisher-place"/>
<text variable="publisher"/>
</group>
</else>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="issued">
<choose>
<if variable="issued">
<choose>
<if type="legal_case">
<group delimiter=" ">
<text variable="authority"/>
<choose>
<if variable="container-title" match="any">
<!--Only print year for cases published in reporters-->
<date variable="issued" form="numeric" date-parts="year"/>
</if>
<else>
<date variable="issued" form="text"/>
</else>
</choose>
</group>
</if>
<else-if type="book bill chapter legislation motion_picture paper-conference song thesis" match="any">
<choose>
<if is-uncertain-date="issued">
<date variable="issued" form="numeric" date-parts="year" prefix="[" suffix="?]"/>
</if>
<else>
<date variable="issued" form="numeric" date-parts="year"/>
</else>
</choose>
</else-if>
<else-if type="patent">
<group delimiter=", ">
<group delimiter=" ">
<!--Needs Localization-->
<text value="filed"/>
<date variable="submitted" form="text"/>
</group>
<group delimiter=" ">
<choose>
<if variable="issued submitted" match="all">
<text term="and"/>
</if>
</choose>
<!--Needs Localization-->
<text value="issued"/>
<date variable="issued" form="text"/>
</group>
</group>
</else-if>
<else>
<choose>
<if is-uncertain-date="issued">
<date variable="issued" form="text" prefix="[" suffix="?]"/>
</if>
<else>
<date variable="issued" form="text"/>
</else>
</choose>
</else>
</choose>
</if>
<else-if variable="status">
<text variable="status"/>
</else-if>
<else-if variable="accessed URL" match="all"/>
<else>
<text term="no date" form="short"/>
</else>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="point-locators-subsequent">
<choose>
<if type="legal_case" variable="locator" match="all">
<choose>
<if locator="page">
<group delimiter=":">
<text variable="volume"/>
<text variable="locator"/>
</group>
</if>
<else>
<group delimiter=" ">
<label variable="locator" form="short"/>
<text variable="locator"/>
</group>
</else>
</choose>
</if>
<else-if variable="locator">
<choose>
<if locator="page" match="none">
<group delimiter=" ">
<choose>
<if type="book graphic motion_picture report song" match="any">
<choose>
<if variable="volume">
<group delimiter=", ">
<group delimiter=" ">
<text term="volume" form="short"/>
<number variable="volume" form="numeric"/>
</group>
<label variable="locator" form="short"/>
</group>
</if>
<else>
<label variable="locator" form="short"/>
</else>
</choose>
</if>
<else>
<label variable="locator" form="short"/>
</else>
</choose>
<text variable="locator"/>
</group>
</if>
<else-if type="book graphic motion_picture report song" match="any">
<group delimiter=":">
<number variable="volume" form="numeric"/>
<text variable="locator"/>
</group>
</else-if>
<else>
<text variable="locator"/>
</else>
</choose>
</else-if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="point-locators-join-with-colon">
<choose>
<if type="article-journal">
<choose>
<if variable="locator page" match="any">
<choose>
<if variable="volume issue" match="any">
<text macro="point-locators"/>
</if>
</choose>
</if>
</choose>
</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="point-locators-join-with-comma">
<choose>
<if type="article-journal" match="none">
<text macro="point-locators"/>
</if>
<else-if variable="volume issue" match="none">
<text macro="point-locators"/>
</else-if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="point-locators">
<choose>
<if variable="locator" match="none">
<choose>
<if type="article-journal chapter paper-conference" match="any">
<text variable="page"/>
</if>
</choose>
</if>
<else-if type="article-journal">
<group delimiter=" ">
<choose>
<if locator="page" match="none">
<label variable="locator" form="short" suffix=" "/>
</if>
</choose>
<text variable="locator"/>
</group>
</else-if>
<else-if type="legal_case"/>
<else>
<group delimiter=" ">
<choose>
<if locator="page" match="none">
<label variable="locator" form="short"/>
</if>
</choose>
<text variable="locator"/>
</group>
</else>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="locators-chapter">
<choose>
<if type="chapter entry-dictionary entry-encyclopedia paper-conference" match="any">
<choose>
<if variable="author container-author" match="all"/>
<else>
<choose>
<if variable="page">
<text variable="volume" suffix=":"/>
<text variable="page"/>
</if>
</choose>
</else>
</choose>
</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="locators-journal-join-with-colon">
<choose>
<if type="article-journal">
<choose>
<if variable="volume issue" match="any">
<text variable="page"/>
</if>
</choose>
</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="locators-journal-join-with-comma">
<choose>
<if type="article-journal">
<choose>
<if variable="volume issue" match="none">
<text variable="page"/>
</if>
</choose>
</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="archive-note">
<choose>
<if type="thesis">
<group delimiter=" ">
<text variable="archive"/>
<text variable="archive_location" prefix="(" suffix=")"/>
</group>
</if>
<else>
<group delimiter=", ">
<text variable="archive_location"/>
<text variable="archive"/>
<text variable="archive-place"/>
</group>
</else>
</choose>
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<macro name="archive">
<choose>
<if type="thesis">
<group delimiter=" ">
<text variable="archive"/>
<text variable="archive_location" prefix="(" suffix=")"/>
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<else>
<group delimiter=". ">
<text variable="archive_location" text-case="capitalize-first"/>
<text variable="archive"/>
<text variable="archive-place"/>
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<macro name="issue-note-join-with-space">
<choose>
<if type="article-journal bill legislation legal_case manuscript thesis" variable="publisher-place event-place publisher" match="any">
<!--Chicago doesn't use publisher/place for Newspapers and we want the date delimited by a comma-->
<choose>
<if type="article-newspaper" match="none">
<choose>
<if type="article-journal" match="none">
<text macro="issue-note"/>
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<text macro="issue-note"/>
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<macro name="issue-map-graphic">
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<choose>
<if type="graphic map" match="any">
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<if variable="publisher publisher-place" match="none">
<text macro="issued"/>
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<text macro="originally-published"/>
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<text macro="reprint-note"/>
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<else>
<text macro="issued"/>
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<macro name="issue-join-with-space">
<choose>
<if type="article-journal" match="any">
<choose>
<if variable="issue volume" match="any">
<text macro="issue"/>
</if>
</choose>
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<else-if type="bill legislation legal_case" match="any">
<text macro="issue"/>
</else-if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="issue-join-with-period">
<choose>
<if type="article-journal bill legislation legal_case" match="none">
<choose>
<if type="speech" variable="publisher publisher-place" match="any">
<text macro="issue"/>
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</if>
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<macro name="issue-join-with-comma">
<choose>
<if type="bill legislation legal_case" match="none">
<choose>
<if type="article-journal" match="none">
<choose>
<if type="speech" variable="publisher publisher-place" match="none">
<text macro="issue"/>
</if>
</choose>
</if>
<else-if variable="volume issue" match="none">
<text macro="issue"/>
</else-if>
</choose>
</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="issue">
<choose>
<if type="bill legislation legal_case" match="any">
<text macro="issued" prefix="(" suffix=")"/>
</if>
<else-if type="article-journal">
<choose>
<if variable="issue volume" match="any">
<text macro="issued" prefix="(" suffix=")"/>
</if>
<else>
<text macro="issued"/>
</else>
</choose>
</else-if>
<else-if type="speech">
<group delimiter=", ">
<group delimiter=" ">
<choose>
<if variable="title" match="none"/>
<else>
<text variable="genre" text-case="capitalize-first"/>
</else>
</choose>
<text macro="event"/>
</group>
<text variable="event-place"/>
<text macro="issued"/>
</group>
</else-if>
<!--Chicago doesn't use publisher/place for Newspapers -->
<else-if type="article-newspaper">
<text macro="issued"/>
</else-if>
<else-if variable="publisher-place publisher" match="any">
<group delimiter=", ">
<choose>
<if type="thesis">
<text variable="genre" text-case="capitalize-first"/>
</if>
</choose>
<group delimiter=". ">
<text macro="originally-published"/>
<group delimiter=", ">
<text macro="reprint"/>
<text macro="publisher"/>
</group>
</group>
<text macro="issued"/>
</group>
</else-if>
<!--location for data for maps and artwork is different-->
<else-if type="graphic map" match="none">
<text macro="issued"/>
</else-if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="access-note">
<group delimiter=", ">
<choose>
<if type="graphic report" match="any">
<text macro="archive-note"/>
</if>
<else-if type="article-journal bill book chapter legal_case legislation motion_picture paper-conference" match="none">
<text macro="archive-note"/>
</else-if>
</choose>
<choose>
<if variable="issued" match="none">
<group delimiter=" ">
<text term="accessed"/>
<date variable="accessed" form="text"/>
</group>
</if>
</choose>
<choose>
<if type="legal_case" match="none">
<choose>
<if variable="DOI">
<text variable="DOI" prefix="https://doi.org/"/>
</if>
<else>
<text variable="URL"/>
</else>
</choose>
</if>
</choose>
</group>
</macro>
<macro name="access">
<group delimiter=". ">
<choose>
<if type="graphic report" match="any">
<text macro="archive"/>
</if>
<else-if type="article-journal bill book chapter legal_case legislation motion_picture paper-conference" match="none">
<text macro="archive"/>
</else-if>
</choose>
<choose>
<if variable="issued" match="none">
<group delimiter=" ">
<text term="accessed" text-case="capitalize-first"/>
<date variable="accessed" form="text"/>
</group>
</if>
</choose>
<choose>
<if type="legal_case" match="none">
<choose>
<if variable="DOI">
<text variable="DOI" prefix="https://doi.org/"/>
</if>
<else>
<text variable="URL"/>
</else>
</choose>
</if>
</choose>
</group>
</macro>
<macro name="case-locator-subsequent">
<choose>
<if type="legal_case">
<group delimiter=" ">
<text variable="volume"/>
<text variable="container-title"/>
</group>
</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<macro name="case-pinpoint-subsequent">
<choose>
<if type="legal_case">
<group delimiter=" ">
<choose>
<if locator="page">
<text term="at"/>
<text variable="locator"/>
</if>
<else>
<label variable="locator"/>
<text variable="locator"/>
</else>
</choose>
</group>
</if>
</choose>
</macro>
<citation et-al-min="4" et-al-use-first="1" disambiguate-add-names="true">
<layout suffix="." delimiter="; ">
<choose>
<if position="subsequent">
<group delimiter=", ">
<text macro="contributors-short"/>
<group delimiter=" ">
<group delimiter=", ">
<text macro="title-short"/>
<!--if title & author are the same: -->
<text macro="date-disambiguate"/>
<text macro="case-locator-subsequent"/>
</group>
<text macro="case-pinpoint-subsequent"/>
</group>
<choose>
<if match="none" type="legal_case">
<text macro="point-locators-subsequent"/>
</if>
</choose>
</group>
</if>
<else>
<group delimiter=", ">
<group delimiter=": ">
<group delimiter=", ">
<group delimiter=" ">
<group delimiter=", ">
<group delimiter=" ">
<group delimiter=", ">
<group delimiter=", ">
<text macro="contributors-note"/>
<text macro="title-note"/>
<text macro="issue-map-graphic"/>
</group>
<text macro="description-note"/>
<text macro="secondary-contributors-note"/>
<text macro="container-title-note"/>
<text macro="container-contributors-note"/>
</group>
<text macro="locators-note-join-with-space"/>
</group>
<text macro="locators-note-join-with-comma"/>
<text macro="collection-title"/>
<text macro="issue-note-join-with-comma"/>
</group>
<text macro="issue-note-join-with-space"/>
</group>
<text macro="locators-newspaper"/>
<text macro="point-locators-join-with-comma"/>
</group>
<text macro="point-locators-join-with-colon"/>
</group>
<text macro="access-note"/>
</group>
</else>
</choose>
</layout>
</citation>
<bibliography hanging-indent="true" et-al-min="11" et-al-use-first="7" subsequent-author-substitute="———" entry-spacing="0">
<sort>
<key macro="contributors-sort"/>
<key variable="title"/>
<key variable="genre"/>
<key variable="issued"/>
</sort>
<layout suffix=".">
<group delimiter=". ">
<group delimiter=": ">
<group delimiter=", ">
<group delimiter=" ">
<group delimiter=". ">
<group delimiter=" ">
<group delimiter=", ">
<group delimiter=". ">
<group delimiter=". ">
<text macro="contributors"/>
<text macro="title"/>
<text macro="issue-map-graphic"/>
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<text macro="description"/>
<text macro="secondary-contributors"/>
<group delimiter=", ">
<text macro="container-title"/>
<text macro="container-contributors"/>
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<text macro="locators-join-with-period"/>
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<text macro="locators-join-with-comma"/>
<text macro="locators-chapter"/>
</group>
<text macro="locators-join-with-space"/>
</group>
<text macro="collection-title"/>
<text macro="issue-join-with-period"/>
</group>
<text macro="issue-join-with-space"/>
</group>
<text macro="issue-join-with-comma"/>
<text macro="locators-journal-join-with-comma"/>
<text macro="locators-newspaper"/>
</group>
<text macro="locators-journal-join-with-colon"/>
</group>
<text macro="access"/>
</group>
</layout>
</bibliography>
</style>
[-- Attachment #4: test.md --]
[-- Type: text/markdown, Size: 572 bytes --]
---
bibliography: test.bib
csl: chicago-fullnote-bibliography-short-title-subsequent.csl
suppress-bibliography: true
---
published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952; -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a; -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a framework shaped by phenomenology.
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* Re: Suppressing author in citation
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2021-05-08 6:41 ` gnpan
@ 2021-05-08 9:02 ` Bastien DUMONT
2021-05-08 10:34 ` AW: " denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
1 sibling, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Bastien DUMONT @ 2021-05-08 9:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw
With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}. From biblatex's manual
p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave differently from the regular
ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command." So you should probably
change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a no-author command (but I
can't tell you more.
Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
>
> Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a pdf that shows
> what I'm getting.
>
> Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of what I'm using
> in case it's not a pandoc error!
>
> Thank you
>
> On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
>
> OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a footnote are
> formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you could provide a
> minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this problem.
>
> On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
>
> Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the footnote!
> The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
>
> On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
>
> The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation,
> not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to
> modify your csl file to omit the author names.
>
> On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> mistake, but I can't see for looking...
>
> I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling
> to suppress author in the reference.
>
> The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> example):
>
> [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982;
> -@schillebeeckx1989c]
>
> which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
>
> 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx,
> Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van
> God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
>
> I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
>
> I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote,
> which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's
> any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different),
> advice welcomed!
>
> Many thanks
>
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> pandoc-discuss/fb15c4e9-1753-4140-9bbe-cd8f5bbc85b6n%40googlegroups.com.
> published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952; -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a; -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a framework shaped by phenomenology.
>
> @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
> year = {1952},
> publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
> address = {{Antwerpen}}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {1964},
> edition = {7de dr.},
> publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> address = {{Bilthoven}}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {1967},
> publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> address = {{Bilthoven}}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {2005},
> edition = {First published 1967},
> publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> address = {{London}},
> isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {2014},
> edition = {First published 1959},
> publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
> address = {{London}},
> isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
> keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
> number = {1},
> series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
> }
>
>
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* AW: Suppressing author in citation
2021-05-08 9:02 ` Bastien DUMONT
@ 2021-05-08 10:34 ` denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
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From: denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ @ 2021-05-08 10:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw
What's the citation style?
Denis
________________________________________
Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
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Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}. From biblatex's manual
p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave differently from the regular
ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command." So you should probably
change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a no-author command (but I
can't tell you more.
Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
>
> Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a pdf that shows
> what I'm getting.
>
> Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of what I'm using
> in case it's not a pandoc error!
>
> Thank you
>
> On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
>
> OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a footnote are
> formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you could provide a
> minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this problem.
>
> On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
>
> Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the footnote!
> The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
>
> On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
>
> The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation,
> not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to
> modify your csl file to omit the author names.
>
> On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> mistake, but I can't see for looking...
>
> I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling
> to suppress author in the reference.
>
> The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> example):
>
> [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982;
> -@schillebeeckx1989c]
>
> which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
>
> 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx,
> Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van
> God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
>
> I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
>
> I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote,
> which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's
> any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different),
> advice welcomed!
>
> Many thanks
>
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> pandoc-discuss/fb15c4e9-1753-4140-9bbe-cd8f5bbc85b6n%40googlegroups.com.
> published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952; -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a; -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a framework shaped by phenomenology.
>
> @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
> year = {1952},
> publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
> address = {{Antwerpen}}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {1964},
> edition = {7de dr.},
> publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> address = {{Bilthoven}}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {1967},
> publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> address = {{Bilthoven}}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {2005},
> edition = {First published 1967},
> publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> address = {{London}},
> isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {2014},
> edition = {First published 1959},
> publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
> address = {{London}},
> isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
> keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
> number = {1},
> series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
> }
>
>
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* Re: Suppressing author in citation
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@ 2021-05-08 10:39 ` Bastien DUMONT
2021-05-08 11:13 ` AW: " denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
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From: Bastien DUMONT @ 2021-05-08 10:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw
biblatex-chicago (via biber)
Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit :
> What's the citation style?
>
> Denis
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
> An: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}. From biblatex's manual
> p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave differently from the regular
> ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command." So you should probably
> change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a no-author command (but I
> can't tell you more.
>
> Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
> >
> > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a pdf that shows
> > what I'm getting.
> >
> > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of what I'm using
> > in case it's not a pandoc error!
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> >
> > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a footnote are
> > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you could provide a
> > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this problem.
> >
> > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
> >
> > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the footnote!
> > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
> >
> > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> >
> > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation,
> > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to
> > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
> >
> > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
> >
> > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling
> > to suppress author in the reference.
> >
> > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> > example):
> >
> > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982;
> > -@schillebeeckx1989c]
> >
> > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
> >
> > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx,
> > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van
> > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
> >
> > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
> >
> > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote,
> > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's
> > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different),
> > advice welcomed!
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
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> > pandoc-discuss/fb15c4e9-1753-4140-9bbe-cd8f5bbc85b6n%40googlegroups.com.
>
>
> > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952; -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a; -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a framework shaped by phenomenology.
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
> > year = {1952},
> > publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
> > address = {{Antwerpen}}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {1964},
> > edition = {7de dr.},
> > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {1967},
> > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {2005},
> > edition = {First published 1967},
> > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> > address = {{London}},
> > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {2014},
> > edition = {First published 1959},
> > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
> > address = {{London}},
> > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
> > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
> > number = {1},
> > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
> > }
> >
> >
>
>
>
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* AW: Suppressing author in citation
2021-05-08 10:39 ` Bastien DUMONT
@ 2021-05-08 11:13 ` denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
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From: denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ @ 2021-05-08 11:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw
Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at https://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago
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Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
An: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
biblatex-chicago (via biber)
Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit :
> What's the citation style?
>
> Denis
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
> An: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}. From biblatex's manual
> p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave differently from the regular
> ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command." So you should probably
> change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a no-author command (but I
> can't tell you more.
>
> Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
> >
> > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a pdf that shows
> > what I'm getting.
> >
> > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of what I'm using
> > in case it's not a pandoc error!
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> >
> > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a footnote are
> > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you could provide a
> > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this problem.
> >
> > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
> >
> > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the footnote!
> > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
> >
> > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> >
> > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation,
> > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to
> > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
> >
> > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
> >
> > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling
> > to suppress author in the reference.
> >
> > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> > example):
> >
> > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982;
> > -@schillebeeckx1989c]
> >
> > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
> >
> > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx,
> > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van
> > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
> >
> > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
> >
> > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote,
> > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's
> > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different),
> > advice welcomed!
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > --
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> > "pandoc-discuss" group.
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> > to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
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> > pandoc-discuss/fb15c4e9-1753-4140-9bbe-cd8f5bbc85b6n%40googlegroups.com.
>
>
> > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952; -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a; -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a framework shaped by phenomenology.
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
> > year = {1952},
> > publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
> > address = {{Antwerpen}}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {1964},
> > edition = {7de dr.},
> > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {1967},
> > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {2005},
> > edition = {First published 1967},
> > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> > address = {{London}},
> > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {2014},
> > edition = {First published 1959},
> > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
> > address = {{London}},
> > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
> > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
> > number = {1},
> > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
> > }
> >
> >
>
>
>
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* Re: Suppressing author in citation
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@ 2021-05-08 14:13 ` Tom McLean
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From: Tom McLean @ 2021-05-08 14:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss
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Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration, can
anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on how to do so.
Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving in the
way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
> Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat unusual
> way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at
> https://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago
>
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im Auftrag
> von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> biblatex-chicago (via biber)
>
> Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit :
> > What's the citation style?
> >
> > Denis
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}. From
> biblatex's manual
> > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave differently
> from the regular
> > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command." So you
> should probably
> > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a no-author
> command (but I
> > can't tell you more.
> >
> > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
> > >
> > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a pdf
> that shows
> > > what I'm getting.
> > >
> > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of what
> I'm using
> > > in case it's not a pandoc error!
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > >
> > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a footnote
> are
> > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you could
> provide a
> > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this problem.
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the footnote!
> > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > >
> > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation,
> > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to
> > > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
> > >
> > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> > > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
> > >
> > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling
> > > to suppress author in the reference.
> > >
> > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> > > example):
> > >
> > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982;
> > > -@schillebeeckx1989c]
> > >
> > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
> > >
> > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx,
> > > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van
> > > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
> > >
> > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
> > >
> > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote,
> > > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's
> > > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different),
> > > advice welcomed!
> > >
> > > Many thanks
> > >
> > > --
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> >
> >
> > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952;
> -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a;
> -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work is
> fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology of
> Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the
> philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a framework
> shaped by phenomenology.
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
> > > year = {1952},
> > > publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
> > > address = {{Antwerpen}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {1964},
> > > edition = {7de dr.},
> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {1967},
> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {2005},
> > > edition = {First published 1967},
> > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> > > address = {{London}},
> > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> > > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {2014},
> > > edition = {First published 1959},
> > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
> > > address = {{London}},
> > > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
> > > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
> > > number = {1},
> > > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
> > > }
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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* AW: Suppressing author in citation
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From: denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ @ 2021-05-08 14:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw
It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in biblatex styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
Denis
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Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration, can anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on how to do so.
Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving in the way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at https://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago
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Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
biblatex-chicago (via biber)
Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit :
> What's the citation style?
>
> Denis
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
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> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}. From biblatex's manual
> p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave differently from the regular
> ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command." So you should probably
> change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a no-author command (but I
> can't tell you more.
>
> Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
> >
> > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a pdf that shows
> > what I'm getting.
> >
> > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of what I'm using
> > in case it's not a pandoc error!
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> >
> > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a footnote are
> > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you could provide a
> > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this problem.
> >
> > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
> >
> > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the footnote!
> > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
> >
> > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> >
> > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation,
> > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to
> > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
> >
> > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
> >
> > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling
> > to suppress author in the reference.
> >
> > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> > example):
> >
> > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982;
> > -@schillebeeckx1989c]
> >
> > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
> >
> > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx,
> > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van
> > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
> >
> > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
> >
> > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote,
> > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's
> > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different),
> > advice welcomed!
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
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> > pandoc-discuss/fb15c4e9-1753-4140-9bbe-cd8f5bbc85b6n%40googlegroups.com<http://40googlegroups.com>.
>
>
> > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952; -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a; -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a framework shaped by phenomenology.
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
> > year = {1952},
> > publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
> > address = {{Antwerpen}}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {1964},
> > edition = {7de dr.},
> > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {1967},
> > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {2005},
> > edition = {First published 1967},
> > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> > address = {{London}},
> > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {2014},
> > edition = {First published 1959},
> > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
> > address = {{London}},
> > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
> > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
> > number = {1},
> > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
> > }
> >
> >
>
>
>
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* AW: Suppressing author in citation
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From: denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ @ 2021-05-08 14:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw
I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may want to look into how the standard styles do this.
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Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39
An: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in biblatex styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
Denis
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Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50
An: pandoc-discuss
Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration, can anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on how to do so.
Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving in the way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at https://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago
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An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
biblatex-chicago (via biber)
Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit :
> What's the citation style?
>
> Denis
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}. From biblatex's manual
> p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave differently from the regular
> ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command." So you should probably
> change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a no-author command (but I
> can't tell you more.
>
> Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
> >
> > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a pdf that shows
> > what I'm getting.
> >
> > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of what I'm using
> > in case it's not a pandoc error!
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> >
> > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a footnote are
> > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you could provide a
> > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this problem.
> >
> > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
> >
> > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the footnote!
> > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
> >
> > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> >
> > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation,
> > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to
> > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
> >
> > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
> >
> > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling
> > to suppress author in the reference.
> >
> > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> > example):
> >
> > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982;
> > -@schillebeeckx1989c]
> >
> > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
> >
> > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx,
> > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van
> > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
> >
> > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
> >
> > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote,
> > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's
> > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different),
> > advice welcomed!
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > --
> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> > "pandoc-discuss" group.
> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
> > to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
> > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/
> > pandoc-discuss/fb15c4e9-1753-4140-9bbe-cd8f5bbc85b6n%40googlegroups.com<http://40googlegroups.com>.
>
>
> > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952; -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a; -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a framework shaped by phenomenology.
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
> > year = {1952},
> > publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
> > address = {{Antwerpen}}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {1964},
> > edition = {7de dr.},
> > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {1967},
> > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {2005},
> > edition = {First published 1967},
> > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> > address = {{London}},
> > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {2014},
> > edition = {First published 1959},
> > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
> > address = {{London}},
> > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
> > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
> > number = {1},
> > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
> > }
> >
> >
>
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* Re: Suppressing author in citation
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From: Tom McLean @ 2021-05-08 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then!
On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
> I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may want to
> look into how the standard styles do this.
> ________________________________________
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> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39
> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
>
> It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in biblatex
> styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
>
> Denis
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
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> von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50
> An: pandoc-discuss
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration, can
> anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on how to do so.
>
> Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving in the
> way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
>
> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
> Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat unusual
> way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at
> https://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago
>
>
> ________________________________________
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> von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> biblatex-chicago (via biber)
>
> Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit :
> > What's the citation style?
> >
> > Denis
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}. From
> biblatex's manual
> > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave differently
> from the regular
> > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command." So you
> should probably
> > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a no-author
> command (but I
> > can't tell you more.
> >
> > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
> > >
> > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a pdf
> that shows
> > > what I'm getting.
> > >
> > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of what
> I'm using
> > > in case it's not a pandoc error!
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > >
> > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a footnote
> are
> > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you could
> provide a
> > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this problem.
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the footnote!
> > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > >
> > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation,
> > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to
> > > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
> > >
> > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> > > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
> > >
> > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling
> > > to suppress author in the reference.
> > >
> > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> > > example):
> > >
> > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982;
> > > -@schillebeeckx1989c]
> > >
> > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
> > >
> > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx,
> > > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van
> > > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
> > >
> > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
> > >
> > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote,
> > > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's
> > > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different),
> > > advice welcomed!
> > >
> > > Many thanks
> > >
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> >
> > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952;
> -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a;
> -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work is
> fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology of
> Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the
> philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a framework
> shaped by phenomenology.
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
> > > year = {1952},
> > > publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
> > > address = {{Antwerpen}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {1964},
> > > edition = {7de dr.},
> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {1967},
> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {2005},
> > > edition = {First published 1967},
> > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> > > address = {{London}},
> > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> > > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {2014},
> > > edition = {First published 1959},
> > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
> > > address = {{London}},
> > > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
> > > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
> > > number = {1},
> > > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
> > > }
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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* AW: Suppressing author in citation
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From: denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ @ 2021-05-08 14:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw
Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand
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Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:40:12
An: pandoc-discuss
Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then!
On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may want to look into how the standard styles do this.
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Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39
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Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in biblatex styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
Denis
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Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration, can anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on how to do so.
Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving in the way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at https://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago
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Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
biblatex-chicago (via biber)
Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit :
> What's the citation style?
>
> Denis
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
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> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}. From biblatex's manual
> p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave differently from the regular
> ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command." So you should probably
> change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a no-author command (but I
> can't tell you more.
>
> Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
> >
> > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a pdf that shows
> > what I'm getting.
> >
> > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of what I'm using
> > in case it's not a pandoc error!
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> >
> > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a footnote are
> > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you could provide a
> > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this problem.
> >
> > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
> >
> > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the footnote!
> > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
> >
> > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> >
> > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation,
> > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to
> > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
> >
> > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
> >
> > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling
> > to suppress author in the reference.
> >
> > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> > example):
> >
> > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982;
> > -@schillebeeckx1989c]
> >
> > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
> >
> > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx,
> > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van
> > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
> >
> > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
> >
> > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote,
> > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's
> > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different),
> > advice welcomed!
> >
> > Many thanks
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> > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952; -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a; -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a framework shaped by phenomenology.
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
> > year = {1952},
> > publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
> > address = {{Antwerpen}}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {1964},
> > edition = {7de dr.},
> > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {1967},
> > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {2005},
> > edition = {First published 1967},
> > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> > address = {{London}},
> > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> > }
> >
> > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
> > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > year = {2014},
> > edition = {First published 1959},
> > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
> > address = {{London}},
> > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
> > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
> > number = {1},
> > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
> > }
> >
> >
>
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From: jcr @ 2021-05-09 15:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
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See the first answer to this question:
https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/262472/ I don't know if exactly the same
code will work with biblatex-chicago, but it shows the general approach.
You want to make a command to suppress printing of the author (in the
linked answer, it's called \int@suppauth), and then invoke it at the
beginning of the starred cite commands you declare. If it's sufficient to
suppress the author's name, that command can be \clearname{authorname}, but
Chicago style will substitute an editor or translator, so if the citations
in question have one of those, you need a more sophisticated solution.
On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:43:44 PM UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
> Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand
>
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im Auftrag
> von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:40:12
> An: pandoc-discuss
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then!
>
> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
> I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may want to
> look into how the standard styles do this.
> ________________________________________
> Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im Auftrag
> von denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org <denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39
> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
>
> It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in biblatex
> styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
>
> Denis
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
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> von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50
> An: pandoc-discuss
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration, can
> anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on how to do so.
>
> Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving in the
> way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
>
> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
> Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat unusual
> way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at
> https://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago
>
>
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> von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> biblatex-chicago (via biber)
>
> Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit :
> > What's the citation style?
> >
> > Denis
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}. From
> biblatex's manual
> > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave differently
> from the regular
> > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command." So you
> should probably
> > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a no-author
> command (but I
> > can't tell you more.
> >
> > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
> > >
> > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a pdf
> that shows
> > > what I'm getting.
> > >
> > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of what
> I'm using
> > > in case it's not a pandoc error!
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > >
> > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a footnote
> are
> > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you could
> provide a
> > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this problem.
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the footnote!
> > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > >
> > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation,
> > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to
> > > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
> > >
> > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> > > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
> > >
> > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling
> > > to suppress author in the reference.
> > >
> > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> > > example):
> > >
> > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982;
> > > -@schillebeeckx1989c]
> > >
> > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
> > >
> > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx,
> > > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van
> > > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
> > >
> > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
> > >
> > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote,
> > > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's
> > > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different),
> > > advice welcomed!
> > >
> > > Many thanks
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> >
> > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952;
> -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a;
> -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work is
> fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology of
> Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the
> philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a framework
> shaped by phenomenology.
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
> > > year = {1952},
> > > publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
> > > address = {{Antwerpen}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {1964},
> > > edition = {7de dr.},
> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {1967},
> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {2005},
> > > edition = {First published 1967},
> > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> > > address = {{London}},
> > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> > > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {2014},
> > > edition = {First published 1959},
> > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
> > > address = {{London}},
> > > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
> > > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
> > > number = {1},
> > > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
> > > }
> > >
> > >
> >
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I meant \clearname{author}
On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:01:57 PM UTC+2 jcr wrote:
> See the first answer to this question:
> https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/262472/ I don't know if exactly the same
> code will work with biblatex-chicago, but it shows the general approach.
> You want to make a command to suppress printing of the author (in the
> linked answer, it's called \int@suppauth), and then invoke it at the
> beginning of the starred cite commands you declare. If it's sufficient to
> suppress the author's name, that command can be \clearname{authorname}, but
> Chicago style will substitute an editor or translator, so if the citations
> in question have one of those, you need a more sophisticated solution.
>
> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:43:44 PM UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
>
>> Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
>> Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:40:12
>> An: pandoc-discuss
>> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>>
>> Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then!
>>
>> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
>> I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may want
>> to look into how the standard styles do this.
>> ________________________________________
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>> Auftrag von denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org <denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39
>> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
>> Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
>>
>> It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in biblatex
>> styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
>>
>> Denis
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
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>> Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50
>> An: pandoc-discuss
>> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>>
>> Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration, can
>> anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on how to do
>> so.
>>
>> Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving in the
>> way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
>>
>> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
>> Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat
>> unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at
>> https://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
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>> Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
>> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
>> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>>
>> biblatex-chicago (via biber)
>>
>> Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit :
>> > What's the citation style?
>> >
>> > Denis
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________________
>> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
>> Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
>> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
>> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
>> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>> >
>> > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}. From
>> biblatex's manual
>> > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave differently
>> from the regular
>> > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command." So you
>> should probably
>> > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a no-author
>> command (but I
>> > can't tell you more.
>> >
>> > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
>> > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
>> > >
>> > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a pdf
>> that shows
>> > > what I'm getting.
>> > >
>> > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of what
>> I'm using
>> > > in case it's not a pandoc error!
>> > >
>> > > Thank you
>> > >
>> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
>> > >
>> > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a footnote
>> are
>> > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you could
>> provide a
>> > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this problem.
>> > >
>> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the footnote!
>> > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
>> > >
>> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
>> > >
>> > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation,
>> > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to
>> > > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
>> > >
>> > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
>> > > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
>> > >
>> > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling
>> > > to suppress author in the reference.
>> > >
>> > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
>> > > example):
>> > >
>> > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982;
>> > > -@schillebeeckx1989c]
>> > >
>> > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
>> > >
>> > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
>> > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx,
>> > > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
>> > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van
>> > > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
>> > >
>> > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
>> > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
>> > >
>> > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
>> > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote,
>> > > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's
>> > > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different),
>> > > advice welcomed!
>> > >
>> > > Many thanks
>> > >
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>>
>> >
>> >
>> > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952;
>> -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a;
>> -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work is
>> fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology of
>> Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the
>> philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a framework
>> shaped by phenomenology.
>> > >
>> > > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
>> > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
>> > > year = {1952},
>> > > publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
>> > > address = {{Antwerpen}}
>> > > }
>> > >
>> > > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
>> > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
>> > > year = {1964},
>> > > edition = {7de dr.},
>> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
>> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
>> > > }
>> > >
>> > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
>> > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
>> > > year = {1967},
>> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
>> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
>> > > }
>> > >
>> > > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
>> > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
>> > > year = {2005},
>> > > edition = {First published 1967},
>> > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
>> > > address = {{London}},
>> > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
>> > > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
>> > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
>> > > }
>> > >
>> > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
>> > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
>> > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
>> > > year = {2014},
>> > > edition = {First published 1959},
>> > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
>> > > address = {{London}},
>> > > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
>> > > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
>> > > number = {1},
>> > > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
>> > > }
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
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From: Tom McLean @ 2021-05-09 19:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss
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Wouldn't that method also require me to manually insert \clearname{author}
for all the relevant citations? At least, my quick attempt didn't seem
happy with either \newcommand{\autocite*} or \renewcomand{\autocite*} – the
former objecting because the unstarred version exists, and the latter
because the starred doesn't. (Though I don't rule out the possibility of an
error in the rest of the arguments to \(re)newcommand being part of the
problem...)
On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 17:04:59 UTC+2 jcr wrote:
> I meant \clearname{author}
>
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:01:57 PM UTC+2 jcr wrote:
>
>> See the first answer to this question:
>> https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/262472/ I don't know if exactly the same
>> code will work with biblatex-chicago, but it shows the general approach.
>> You want to make a command to suppress printing of the author (in the
>> linked answer, it's called \int@suppauth), and then invoke it at the
>> beginning of the starred cite commands you declare. If it's sufficient to
>> suppress the author's name, that command can be \clearname{authorname}, but
>> Chicago style will substitute an editor or translator, so if the citations
>> in question have one of those, you need a more sophisticated solution.
>>
>> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:43:44 PM UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
>>
>>> Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
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>>> Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
>>> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:40:12
>>> An: pandoc-discuss
>>> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>>>
>>> Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
>>> I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may want
>>> to look into how the standard styles do this.
>>> ________________________________________
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>>> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39
>>> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
>>> Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
>>>
>>> It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in biblatex
>>> styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
>>>
>>> Denis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
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>>> Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
>>> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50
>>> An: pandoc-discuss
>>> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>>>
>>> Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration, can
>>> anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on how to do
>>> so.
>>>
>>> Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving in the
>>> way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
>>> Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat
>>> unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at
>>> https://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
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>>> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
>>> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
>>> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>>>
>>> biblatex-chicago (via biber)
>>>
>>> Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit :
>>> > What's the citation style?
>>> >
>>> > Denis
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________________
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>>> Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
>>> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
>>> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
>>> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>>> >
>>> > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}. From
>>> biblatex's manual
>>> > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave differently
>>> from the regular
>>> > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command." So you
>>> should probably
>>> > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a no-author
>>> command (but I
>>> > can't tell you more.
>>> >
>>> > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
>>> > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
>>> > >
>>> > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a pdf
>>> that shows
>>> > > what I'm getting.
>>> > >
>>> > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of what
>>> I'm using
>>> > > in case it's not a pandoc error!
>>> > >
>>> > > Thank you
>>> > >
>>> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a footnote
>>> are
>>> > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you could
>>> provide a
>>> > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this problem.
>>> > >
>>> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the footnote!
>>> > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
>>> > >
>>> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation,
>>> > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to
>>> > > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
>>> > >
>>> > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
>>> > > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
>>> > >
>>> > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling
>>> > > to suppress author in the reference.
>>> > >
>>> > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
>>> > > example):
>>> > >
>>> > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982;
>>> > > -@schillebeeckx1989c]
>>> > >
>>> > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
>>> > >
>>> > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
>>> > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx,
>>> > > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
>>> > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van
>>> > > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
>>> > >
>>> > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
>>> > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
>>> > >
>>> > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
>>> > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote,
>>> > > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's
>>> > > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different),
>>> > > advice welcomed!
>>> > >
>>> > > Many thanks
>>> > >
>>> > > --
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>>> > > pandoc-discuss/fb15c4e9-1753-4140-9bbe-cd8f5bbc85b6n%
>>> 40googlegroups.com<http://40googlegroups.com><http://40googlegroups.com>.
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952;
>>> -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a;
>>> -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work is
>>> fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology of
>>> Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the
>>> philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a framework
>>> shaped by phenomenology.
>>> > >
>>> > > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
>>> > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
>>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
>>> > > year = {1952},
>>> > > publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
>>> > > address = {{Antwerpen}}
>>> > > }
>>> > >
>>> > > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
>>> > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
>>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
>>> > > year = {1964},
>>> > > edition = {7de dr.},
>>> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
>>> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
>>> > > }
>>> > >
>>> > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
>>> > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
>>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
>>> > > year = {1967},
>>> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
>>> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
>>> > > }
>>> > >
>>> > > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
>>> > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
>>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
>>> > > year = {2005},
>>> > > edition = {First published 1967},
>>> > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
>>> > > address = {{London}},
>>> > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
>>> > > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
>>> > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
>>> > > }
>>> > >
>>> > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
>>> > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
>>> > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
>>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
>>> > > year = {2014},
>>> > > edition = {First published 1959},
>>> > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
>>> > > address = {{London}},
>>> > > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
>>> > > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
>>> > > number = {1},
>>> > > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
>>> > > }
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
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* Re: Suppressing author in citation
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@ 2021-05-09 19:31 ` Bastien DUMONT
2021-05-09 19:38 ` AW: " denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
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From: Bastien DUMONT @ 2021-05-09 19:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw
Renewing \autocite* seems to be a good approach. So please try again and
reproduce your exact commands if the error persists!
Le Sunday 09 May 2021 à 12:14:40PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> Wouldn't that method also require me to manually insert \clearname{author} for
> all the relevant citations? At least, my quick attempt didn't seem happy with
> either \newcommand{\autocite*} or \renewcomand{\autocite*} – the former
> objecting because the unstarred version exists, and the latter because the
> starred doesn't. (Though I don't rule out the possibility of an error in the
> rest of the arguments to \(re)newcommand being part of the problem...)
>
> On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 17:04:59 UTC+2 jcr wrote:
>
> I meant \clearname{author}
>
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:01:57 PM UTC+2 jcr wrote:
>
> See the first answer to this question: https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/
> 262472/ I don't know if exactly the same code will work with
> biblatex-chicago, but it shows the general approach. You want to make a
> command to suppress printing of the author (in the linked answer, it's
> called \int@suppauth), and then invoke it at the beginning of the
> starred cite commands you declare. If it's sufficient to suppress the
> author's name, that command can be \clearname{authorname}, but Chicago
> style will substitute an editor or translator, so if the citations in
> question have one of those, you need a more sophisticated solution.
>
> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:43:44 PM UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> wrote:
>
> Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand
>
>
> ________________________________________
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> Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:40:12
> An: pandoc-discuss
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then!
>
> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3r1GAl8QSHYmA@public.gmane.orgh
> wrote:
> I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may
> want to look into how the standard styles do this.
> ________________________________________
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> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39
> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
>
> It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in
> biblatex styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
>
> Denis
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
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> Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50
> An: pandoc-discuss
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration,
> can anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on
> how to do so.
>
> Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving
> in the way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
>
> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3r1GAl8QSHYmA@public.gmane.orgh
> wrote:
> Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat
> unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at https:/
> /www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago
>
>
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> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> biblatex-chicago (via biber)
>
> Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3rhvxM+mQhndA@public.gmane.orgch a écrit
> :
> > What's the citation style?
> >
> > Denis
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...@googlegroups.com> im
> Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}.
> From biblatex's manual
> > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave
> differently from the regular
> > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command."
> So you should probably
> > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a
> no-author command (but I
> > can't tell you more.
> >
> > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
> > >
> > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a
> pdf that shows
> > > what I'm getting.
> > >
> > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of
> what I'm using
> > > in case it's not a pandoc error!
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > >
> > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a
> footnote are
> > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you
> could provide a
> > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this
> problem.
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...@gmail.com
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the
> footnote!
> > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > >
> > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the
> citation,
> > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need
> to
> > > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
> > >
> > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> > > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
> > >
> > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling
> > > to suppress author in the reference.
> > >
> > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> > > example):
> > >
> > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982;
> > > -@schillebeeckx1989c]
> > >
> > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
> > >
> > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx,
> > > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van
> > > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
> > >
> > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
> > >
> > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote,
> > > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's
> > > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different),
> > > advice welcomed!
> > >
> > > Many thanks
> > >
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> >
> > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952;
> -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a;
> -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s
> work is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental
> theology of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought
> from the philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle
> into a framework shaped by phenomenology.
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
> > > year = {1952},
> > > publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
> > > address = {{Antwerpen}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {1964},
> > > edition = {7de dr.},
> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {1967},
> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {2005},
> > > edition = {First published 1967},
> > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> > > address = {{London}},
> > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> > > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {2014},
> > > edition = {First published 1959},
> > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
> > > address = {{London}},
> > > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
> > > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
> > > number = {1},
> > > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
> > > }
> > >
> > >
> >
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* AW: Suppressing author in citation
2021-05-09 19:31 ` Bastien DUMONT
@ 2021-05-09 19:38 ` denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
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From: denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ @ 2021-05-09 19:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw
I don't think renewcommand is the best solution. There's a special interface for citation commands.
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Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Mai 2021 21:31:05
An: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
Renewing \autocite* seems to be a good approach. So please try again and
reproduce your exact commands if the error persists!
Le Sunday 09 May 2021 à 12:14:40PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> Wouldn't that method also require me to manually insert \clearname{author} for
> all the relevant citations? At least, my quick attempt didn't seem happy with
> either \newcommand{\autocite*} or \renewcomand{\autocite*} – the former
> objecting because the unstarred version exists, and the latter because the
> starred doesn't. (Though I don't rule out the possibility of an error in the
> rest of the arguments to \(re)newcommand being part of the problem...)
>
> On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 17:04:59 UTC+2 jcr wrote:
>
> I meant \clearname{author}
>
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:01:57 PM UTC+2 jcr wrote:
>
> See the first answer to this question: https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/
> 262472/ I don't know if exactly the same code will work with
> biblatex-chicago, but it shows the general approach. You want to make a
> command to suppress printing of the author (in the linked answer, it's
> called \int@suppauth), and then invoke it at the beginning of the
> starred cite commands you declare. If it's sufficient to suppress the
> author's name, that command can be \clearname{authorname}, but Chicago
> style will substitute an editor or translator, so if the citations in
> question have one of those, you need a more sophisticated solution.
>
> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:43:44 PM UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> wrote:
>
> Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand
>
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:40:12
> An: pandoc-discuss
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then!
>
> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3r1GAl8QSHYmA@public.gmane.orgh
> wrote:
> I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may
> want to look into how the standard styles do this.
> ________________________________________
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> Auftrag von denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org <denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39
> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
>
> It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in
> biblatex styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
>
> Denis
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50
> An: pandoc-discuss
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration,
> can anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on
> how to do so.
>
> Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving
> in the way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
>
> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3r1GAl8QSHYmA@public.gmane.orgh
> wrote:
> Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat
> unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at https:/
> /www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago
>
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> biblatex-chicago (via biber)
>
> Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3rhvxM+mQhndA@public.gmane.orgch a écrit
> :
> > What's the citation style?
> >
> > Denis
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...@googlegroups.com> im
> Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}.
> From biblatex's manual
> > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave
> differently from the regular
> > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command."
> So you should probably
> > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a
> no-author command (but I
> > can't tell you more.
> >
> > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
> > >
> > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a
> pdf that shows
> > > what I'm getting.
> > >
> > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of
> what I'm using
> > > in case it's not a pandoc error!
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > >
> > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a
> footnote are
> > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you
> could provide a
> > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this
> problem.
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...@gmail.com
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the
> footnote!
> > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > >
> > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the
> citation,
> > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need
> to
> > > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
> > >
> > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> > > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
> > >
> > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling
> > > to suppress author in the reference.
> > >
> > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> > > example):
> > >
> > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982;
> > > -@schillebeeckx1989c]
> > >
> > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
> > >
> > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx,
> > > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van
> > > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
> > >
> > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
> > >
> > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote,
> > > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's
> > > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different),
> > > advice welcomed!
> > >
> > > Many thanks
> > >
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> >
> > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952;
> -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a;
> -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s
> work is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental
> theology of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought
> from the philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle
> into a framework shaped by phenomenology.
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
> > > year = {1952},
> > > publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
> > > address = {{Antwerpen}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {1964},
> > > edition = {7de dr.},
> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {1967},
> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {2005},
> > > edition = {First published 1967},
> > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> > > address = {{London}},
> > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> > > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {2014},
> > > edition = {First published 1959},
> > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
> > > address = {{London}},
> > > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
> > > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
> > > number = {1},
> > > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
> > > }
> > >
> > >
> >
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* Re: Suppressing author in citation
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@ 2021-05-09 21:24 ` Tom McLean
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From: Tom McLean @ 2021-05-09 21:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss
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Can't renewcommand and newcommand both only take one optional argument?
autocite takes two (comments before and after the reference), and while I
don't think that causes me a problem in this instance, I'd rather a
solution that doesn't limit that if that's possible.
On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 21:39:06 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
> I don't think renewcommand is the best solution. There's a special
> interface for citation commands.
> ________________________________________
> Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im Auftrag
> von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Mai 2021 21:31:05
> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Renewing \autocite* seems to be a good approach. So please try again and
> reproduce your exact commands if the error persists!
>
> Le Sunday 09 May 2021 à 12:14:40PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > Wouldn't that method also require me to manually insert
> \clearname{author} for
> > all the relevant citations? At least, my quick attempt didn't seem happy
> with
> > either \newcommand{\autocite*} or \renewcomand{\autocite*} – the former
> > objecting because the unstarred version exists, and the latter because
> the
> > starred doesn't. (Though I don't rule out the possibility of an error in
> the
> > rest of the arguments to \(re)newcommand being part of the problem...)
> >
> > On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 17:04:59 UTC+2 jcr wrote:
> >
> > I meant \clearname{author}
> >
> > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:01:57 PM UTC+2 jcr wrote:
> >
> > See the first answer to this question: https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/
> > 262472/ I don't know if exactly the same code will work with
> > biblatex-chicago, but it shows the general approach. You want to make a
> > command to suppress printing of the author (in the linked answer, it's
> > called \int@suppauth), and then invoke it at the beginning of the
> > starred cite commands you declare. If it's sufficient to suppress the
> > author's name, that command can be \clearname{authorname}, but Chicago
> > style will substitute an editor or translator, so if the citations in
> > question have one of those, you need a more sophisticated solution.
> >
> > On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:43:44 PM UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:40:12
> > An: pandoc-discuss
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then!
> >
> > On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > wrote:
> > I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may
> > want to look into how the standard styles do this.
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > Auftrag von denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org <denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in
> > biblatex styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
> >
> > Denis
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50
> > An: pandoc-discuss
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration,
> > can anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on
> > how to do so.
> >
> > Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving
> > in the way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
> >
> > On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > wrote:
> > Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat
> > unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at https:/
> > /www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > biblatex-chicago (via biber)
> >
> > Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit
> > :
> > > What's the citation style?
> > >
> > > Denis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
> > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> > >
> > > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}.
> > From biblatex's manual
> > > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave
> > differently from the regular
> > > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command."
> > So you should probably
> > > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a
> > no-author command (but I
> > > can't tell you more.
> > >
> > > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
> > > >
> > > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a
> > pdf that shows
> > > > what I'm getting.
> > > >
> > > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of
> > what I'm using
> > > > in case it's not a pandoc error!
> > > >
> > > > Thank you
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a
> > footnote are
> > > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you
> > could provide a
> > > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this
> > problem.
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the
> > footnote!
> > > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the
> > citation,
> > > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need
> > to
> > > > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> > > > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
> > > >
> > > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling
> > > > to suppress author in the reference.
> > > >
> > > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> > > > example):
> > > >
> > > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982;
> > > > -@schillebeeckx1989c]
> > > >
> > > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
> > > >
> > > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> > > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx,
> > > > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> > > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van
> > > > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
> > > >
> > > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> > > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
> > > >
> > > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> > > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote,
> > > > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's
> > > > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different),
> > > > advice welcomed!
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks
> > > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952;
> > -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a;
> > -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s
> > work is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental
> > theology of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought
> > from the philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle
> > into a framework shaped by phenomenology.
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> > > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
> > > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
> > > > year = {1952},
> > > > publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
> > > > address = {{Antwerpen}}
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> > > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
> > > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > > year = {1964},
> > > > edition = {7de dr.},
> > > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> > > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
> > > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > > year = {1967},
> > > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> > > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> > > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > > year = {2005},
> > > > edition = {First published 1967},
> > > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> > > > address = {{London}},
> > > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> > > > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> > > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> > > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> > > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
> > > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > > year = {2014},
> > > > edition = {First published 1959},
> > > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
> > > > address = {{London}},
> > > > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
> > > > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
> > > > number = {1},
> > > > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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* AW: Suppressing author in citation
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From: denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ @ 2021-05-09 22:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw
Biblatex-chicago defines autocite as footcute. The star is simply being passed through. As there us no definition for footcite*, footcite* uses footcite* as a fallback.
So, we need a definition for footcite* (\DeclareCiteCommand). In that definition, call a big macro that doesn't print the authors.
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Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Mai 2021 23:24:07
An: pandoc-discuss
Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
Can't renewcommand and newcommand both only take one optional argument? autocite takes two (comments before and after the reference), and while I don't think that causes me a problem in this instance, I'd rather a solution that doesn't limit that if that's possible.
On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 21:39:06 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
I don't think renewcommand is the best solution. There's a special interface for citation commands.
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Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Mai 2021 21:31:05
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Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
Renewing \autocite* seems to be a good approach. So please try again and
reproduce your exact commands if the error persists!
Le Sunday 09 May 2021 à 12:14:40PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> Wouldn't that method also require me to manually insert \clearname{author} for
> all the relevant citations? At least, my quick attempt didn't seem happy with
> either \newcommand{\autocite*} or \renewcomand{\autocite*} – the former
> objecting because the unstarred version exists, and the latter because the
> starred doesn't. (Though I don't rule out the possibility of an error in the
> rest of the arguments to \(re)newcommand being part of the problem...)
>
> On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 17:04:59 UTC+2 jcr wrote:
>
> I meant \clearname{author}
>
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:01:57 PM UTC+2 jcr wrote:
>
> See the first answer to this question: https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/
> 262472/ I don't know if exactly the same code will work with
> biblatex-chicago, but it shows the general approach. You want to make a
> command to suppress printing of the author (in the linked answer, it's
> called \int@suppauth), and then invoke it at the beginning of the
> starred cite commands you declare. If it's sufficient to suppress the
> author's name, that command can be \clearname{authorname}, but Chicago
> style will substitute an editor or translator, so if the citations in
> question have one of those, you need a more sophisticated solution.
>
> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:43:44 PM UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> wrote:
>
> Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand
>
>
> ________________________________________
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> Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:40:12
> An: pandoc-discuss
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then!
>
> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> wrote:
> I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may
> want to look into how the standard styles do this.
> ________________________________________
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> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39
> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
>
> It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in
> biblatex styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
>
> Denis
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
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> Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50
> An: pandoc-discuss
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration,
> can anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on
> how to do so.
>
> Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving
> in the way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
>
> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> wrote:
> Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat
> unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at https:/
> /www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago<http://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago>
>
>
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> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> biblatex-chicago (via biber)
>
> Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit
> :
> > What's the citation style?
> >
> > Denis
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
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> Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}.
> From biblatex's manual
> > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave
> differently from the regular
> > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command."
> So you should probably
> > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a
> no-author command (but I
> > can't tell you more.
> >
> > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
> > >
> > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a
> pdf that shows
> > > what I'm getting.
> > >
> > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of
> what I'm using
> > > in case it's not a pandoc error!
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > >
> > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a
> footnote are
> > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you
> could provide a
> > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this
> problem.
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the
> footnote!
> > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > >
> > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the
> citation,
> > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need
> to
> > > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
> > >
> > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> > > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
> > >
> > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling
> > > to suppress author in the reference.
> > >
> > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> > > example):
> > >
> > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982;
> > > -@schillebeeckx1989c]
> > >
> > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
> > >
> > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx,
> > > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van
> > > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
> > >
> > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
> > >
> > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote,
> > > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's
> > > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different),
> > > advice welcomed!
> > >
> > > Many thanks
> > >
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> >
> >
> > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952;
> -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a;
> -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s
> work is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental
> theology of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought
> from the philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle
> into a framework shaped by phenomenology.
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
> > > year = {1952},
> > > publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
> > > address = {{Antwerpen}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {1964},
> > > edition = {7de dr.},
> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {1967},
> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {2005},
> > > edition = {First published 1967},
> > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> > > address = {{London}},
> > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> > > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {2014},
> > > edition = {First published 1959},
> > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
> > > address = {{London}},
> > > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
> > > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
> > > number = {1},
> > > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
> > > }
> > >
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* AW: Suppressing author in citation
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From: denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ @ 2021-05-09 22:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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\DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote]
{\usebibmacro{prenote}}%\bibsentence
{\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
%\usebibmacro{cite}
\usebibmacro{cite-without-author}}
{\multicitedelim}
{\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
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Von: Maier, Denis Christian (UB)
Gesendet: Montag, 10. Mai 2021 00:02:15
An: pandoc-discuss
Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
Biblatex-chicago defines autocite as footcute. The star is simply being passed through. As there us no definition for footcite*, footcite* uses footcite* as a fallback.
So, we need a definition for footcite* (\DeclareCiteCommand). In that definition, call a big macro that doesn't print the authors.
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Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Mai 2021 23:24:07
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Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
Can't renewcommand and newcommand both only take one optional argument? autocite takes two (comments before and after the reference), and while I don't think that causes me a problem in this instance, I'd rather a solution that doesn't limit that if that's possible.
On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 21:39:06 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
I don't think renewcommand is the best solution. There's a special interface for citation commands.
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Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
Renewing \autocite* seems to be a good approach. So please try again and
reproduce your exact commands if the error persists!
Le Sunday 09 May 2021 à 12:14:40PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> Wouldn't that method also require me to manually insert \clearname{author} for
> all the relevant citations? At least, my quick attempt didn't seem happy with
> either \newcommand{\autocite*} or \renewcomand{\autocite*} – the former
> objecting because the unstarred version exists, and the latter because the
> starred doesn't. (Though I don't rule out the possibility of an error in the
> rest of the arguments to \(re)newcommand being part of the problem...)
>
> On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 17:04:59 UTC+2 jcr wrote:
>
> I meant \clearname{author}
>
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:01:57 PM UTC+2 jcr wrote:
>
> See the first answer to this question: https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/
> 262472/ I don't know if exactly the same code will work with
> biblatex-chicago, but it shows the general approach. You want to make a
> command to suppress printing of the author (in the linked answer, it's
> called \int@suppauth), and then invoke it at the beginning of the
> starred cite commands you declare. If it's sufficient to suppress the
> author's name, that command can be \clearname{authorname}, but Chicago
> style will substitute an editor or translator, so if the citations in
> question have one of those, you need a more sophisticated solution.
>
> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:43:44 PM UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> wrote:
>
> Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand
>
>
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> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:40:12
> An: pandoc-discuss
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then!
>
> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> wrote:
> I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may
> want to look into how the standard styles do this.
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> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
>
> It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in
> biblatex styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
>
> Denis
>
>
>
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> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50
> An: pandoc-discuss
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration,
> can anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on
> how to do so.
>
> Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving
> in the way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
>
> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> wrote:
> Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat
> unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at https:/
> /www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago<http://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago>
>
>
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> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> biblatex-chicago (via biber)
>
> Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit
> :
> > What's the citation style?
> >
> > Denis
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
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> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}.
> From biblatex's manual
> > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave
> differently from the regular
> > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command."
> So you should probably
> > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a
> no-author command (but I
> > can't tell you more.
> >
> > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
> > >
> > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a
> pdf that shows
> > > what I'm getting.
> > >
> > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of
> what I'm using
> > > in case it's not a pandoc error!
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > >
> > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a
> footnote are
> > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you
> could provide a
> > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this
> problem.
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the
> footnote!
> > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
> > >
> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > >
> > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the
> citation,
> > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need
> to
> > > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
> > >
> > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> > > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
> > >
> > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling
> > > to suppress author in the reference.
> > >
> > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> > > example):
> > >
> > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982;
> > > -@schillebeeckx1989c]
> > >
> > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
> > >
> > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx,
> > > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van
> > > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
> > >
> > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
> > >
> > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote,
> > > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's
> > > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different),
> > > advice welcomed!
> > >
> > > Many thanks
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> > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952;
> -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a;
> -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s
> work is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental
> theology of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought
> from the philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle
> into a framework shaped by phenomenology.
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
> > > year = {1952},
> > > publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
> > > address = {{Antwerpen}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {1964},
> > > edition = {7de dr.},
> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {1967},
> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {2005},
> > > edition = {First published 1967},
> > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> > > address = {{London}},
> > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> > > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> > > }
> > >
> > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > year = {2014},
> > > edition = {First published 1959},
> > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
> > > address = {{London}},
> > > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
> > > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
> > > number = {1},
> > > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
> > > }
> > >
> > >
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* AW: Suppressing author in citation
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Ok. Biblatex-chicago comes with a command \headlesscite with is already quite close to what you want. The definition is:
```
\DeclareCiteCommand{\headlesscite}
{\usebibmacro{prenote}}
{\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
\toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}%
\usebibmacro{clear+labelname}%
\usebibmacro \clearname{labelname}%
{cite}%
\global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}%
{\multicitedelim}
{\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
```
We can now simply take that definiton for the starred variant of footcite:
```
\DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote]
{\usebibmacro{prenote}}
{\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
\toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}%
\usebibmacro{clear+labelname}%
\clearname{labelname}%
\usebibmacro{cite}%
\global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}%
{\multicitedelim}
{\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
```
It will start working for \autocite* after these two lines:
```
\DeclareAutoCiteCommand{footnote}[l]{\footcite}{\footcites}
\ExecuteBibliographyOptions{autocite=footnote}
```
MWE below, PDF attached.
HTH,
Denis
================================================
\documentclass{article}
\begin{filecontents}[overwrite]{test.bib}
@book{schillebeeckx1952,
title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
year = {1952},
publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
address = {{Antwerpen}}
}
@book{schillebeeckx1964,
title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
year = {1964},
edition = {7de dr.},
publisher = {{Nelissen}},
address = {{Bilthoven}}
}
@book{schillebeeckx1967a,
title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
year = {1967},
publisher = {{Nelissen}},
address = {{Bilthoven}}
}
@book{schillebeeckx2005,
title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
year = {2005},
edition = {First published 1967},
publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
address = {{London}},
isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
keywords = {Transubstantiation},
lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
}
@book{schillebeeckx2014n,
title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
year = {2014},
edition = {First published 1959},
publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
address = {{London}},
isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
number = {1},
series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
}
\end{filecontents}
\usepackage[notes,backend=biber]{biblatex-chicago}
\addbibresource{test.bib}
% Declare footcite* just as headlesscite, but wrap it in a footnote
\DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote]
{\usebibmacro{prenote}}
{\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
\toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}%
\usebibmacro{clear+labelname}%
\clearname{labelname}%
\usebibmacro{cite}%
\global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}%
{\multicitedelim}
{\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
% This is needed for these changes to take effect.
\DeclareAutoCiteCommand{footnote}[l]{\footcite}{\footcites}
\ExecuteBibliographyOptions{autocite=footnote}
\begin{document}
\autocite*{schillebeeckx1952}
%\footcite*{schillebeeckx1952}
\end{document}
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> Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-
> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> Gesendet: Montag, 10. Mai 2021 00:07
> An: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
>
> \DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote]
> {\usebibmacro{prenote}}%\bibsentence
> {\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
> %\usebibmacro{cite}
> \usebibmacro{cite-without-author}}
> {\multicitedelim}
> {\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: Maier, Denis Christian (UB)
> Gesendet: Montag, 10. Mai 2021 00:02:15
> An: pandoc-discuss
> Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Biblatex-chicago defines autocite as footcute. The star is simply being passed
> through. As there us no definition for footcite*, footcite* uses footcite* as a
> fallback.
> So, we need a definition for footcite* (\DeclareCiteCommand). In that
> definition, call a big macro that doesn't print the authors.
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-
> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im Auftrag von Tom McLean
> <thomaspaulmclean-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Mai 2021 23:24:07
> An: pandoc-discuss
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Can't renewcommand and newcommand both only take one optional
> argument? autocite takes two (comments before and after the reference),
> and while I don't think that causes me a problem in this instance, I'd rather a
> solution that doesn't limit that if that's possible.
>
>
> On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 21:39:06 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
> I don't think renewcommand is the best solution. There's a special interface
> for citation commands.
> ________________________________________
> Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Mai 2021 21:31:05
> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Renewing \autocite* seems to be a good approach. So please try again and
> reproduce your exact commands if the error persists!
>
> Le Sunday 09 May 2021 à 12:14:40PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > Wouldn't that method also require me to manually insert
> > \clearname{author} for all the relevant citations? At least, my quick
> > attempt didn't seem happy with either \newcommand{\autocite*} or
> > \renewcomand{\autocite*} – the former objecting because the unstarred
> > version exists, and the latter because the starred doesn't. (Though I
> > don't rule out the possibility of an error in the rest of the
> > arguments to \(re)newcommand being part of the problem...)
> >
> > On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 17:04:59 UTC+2 jcr wrote:
> >
> > I meant \clearname{author}
> >
> > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:01:57 PM UTC+2 jcr wrote:
> >
> > See the first answer to this question:
> > https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/ 262472/ I don't know if exactly the
> > same code will work with biblatex-chicago, but it shows the general
> > approach. You want to make a command to suppress printing of the
> > author (in the linked answer, it's called \int@suppauth), and then
> > invoke it at the beginning of the starred cite commands you declare.
> > If it's sufficient to suppress the author's name, that command can be
> > \clearname{authorname}, but Chicago style will substitute an editor or
> > translator, so if the citations in question have one of those, you need a
> more sophisticated solution.
> >
> > On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:43:44 PM UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:40:12
> > An: pandoc-discuss
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then!
> >
> > On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > wrote:
> > I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may
> > want to look into how the standard styles do this.
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > Auftrag von denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org <denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in biblatex
> > styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
> >
> > Denis
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50
> > An: pandoc-discuss
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration,
> > can anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on how
> > to do so.
> >
> > Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving in
> > the way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
> >
> > On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > wrote:
> > Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat
> > unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at https:/
> > /www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago<http://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-
> ch
> > icago>
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > biblatex-chicago (via biber)
> >
> > Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit
> > :
> > > What's the citation style?
> > >
> > > Denis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
> > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> > >
> > > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}.
> > From biblatex's manual
> > > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave
> > differently from the regular
> > > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command."
> > So you should probably
> > > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a
> > no-author command (but I
> > > can't tell you more.
> > >
> > > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
> > > >
> > > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a
> > pdf that shows
> > > > what I'm getting.
> > > >
> > > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of
> > what I'm using
> > > > in case it's not a pandoc error!
> > > >
> > > > Thank you
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a
> > footnote are
> > > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you
> > could provide a
> > > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this
> > problem.
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the
> > footnote!
> > > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the
> > citation,
> > > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need
> > to
> > > > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> > > > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
> > > >
> > > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling to
> > > > suppress author in the reference.
> > > >
> > > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> > > > example):
> > > >
> > > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982; -@schillebeeckx1989c]
> > > >
> > > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
> > > >
> > > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> > > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx, Gerechtigheid
> > > > En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> > > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van God
> > > > (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
> > > >
> > > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> > > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
> > > >
> > > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> > > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote, which
> > > > I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's any tricks
> > > > anyone can share on how to fix those (if different), advice
> > > > welcomed!
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks
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> > > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952;
> > -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a;
> > -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work
> > is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology
> > of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the
> > philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a
> > framework shaped by phenomenology.
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> > > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}}, author =
> > > > {Schillebeeckx, Henricus}, year = {1952}, publisher = {{'T
> > > > Groeit}}, address = {{Antwerpen}} }
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> > > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting}, author =
> > > > {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, year = {1964}, edition = {7de dr.},
> > > > publisher = {{Nelissen}}, address = {{Bilthoven}} }
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> > > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie}, author =
> > > > {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, year = {1967}, publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > > address = {{Bilthoven}} }
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> > > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> > > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > > year = {2005},
> > > > edition = {First published 1967},
> > > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> > > > address = {{London}},
> > > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> > > > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> > > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> > > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> > > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}}, author = {Schillebeeckx,
> > > > Edward}, year = {2014}, edition = {First published 1959},
> > > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}}, address = {{London}}, isbn =
> > > > {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6}, keywords
> > > > = {Catholic Church,Sacraments}, number = {1}, series = {The
> > > > Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}} }
> > > >
> > > >
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* Re: Suppressing author in citation
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From: Tom McLean @ 2021-05-10 9:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss
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Thank you – that looks perfect!
(It does break the slight bodge I had made on some of my more extended
footnotes, but I will either have to adjust that, or dump less material in
my footnotes...)
On Monday, 10 May 2021 at 10:35:02 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
> Ok. Biblatex-chicago comes with a command \headlesscite with is already
> quite close to what you want. The definition is:
>
> ```
> \DeclareCiteCommand{\headlesscite}
> {\usebibmacro{prenote}}
> {\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
> \toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}%
> \usebibmacro{clear+labelname}%
> \usebibmacro \clearname{labelname}%
> {cite}%
> \global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}%
> {\multicitedelim}
> {\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
> ```
>
> We can now simply take that definiton for the starred variant of footcite:
>
> ```
> \DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote]
> {\usebibmacro{prenote}}
> {\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
> \toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}%
> \usebibmacro{clear+labelname}%
> \clearname{labelname}%
> \usebibmacro{cite}%
> \global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}%
> {\multicitedelim}
> {\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
> ```
>
> It will start working for \autocite* after these two lines:
>
> ```
> \DeclareAutoCiteCommand{footnote}[l]{\footcite}{\footcites}
> \ExecuteBibliographyOptions{autocite=footnote}
> ```
>
> MWE below, PDF attached.
>
> HTH,
> Denis
>
> ================================================
> \documentclass{article}
> \begin{filecontents}[overwrite]{test.bib}
> @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
> year = {1952},
> publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
> address = {{Antwerpen}}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {1964},
> edition = {7de dr.},
> publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> address = {{Bilthoven}}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {1967},
> publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> address = {{Bilthoven}}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {2005},
> edition = {First published 1967},
> publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> address = {{London}},
> isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {2014},
> edition = {First published 1959},
> publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
> address = {{London}},
> isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
> keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
> number = {1},
> series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
> }
> \end{filecontents}
>
> \usepackage[notes,backend=biber]{biblatex-chicago}
> \addbibresource{test.bib}
>
> % Declare footcite* just as headlesscite, but wrap it in a footnote
> \DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote]
> {\usebibmacro{prenote}}
> {\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
> \toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}%
> \usebibmacro{clear+labelname}%
> \clearname{labelname}%
> \usebibmacro{cite}%
> \global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}%
> {\multicitedelim}
> {\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
>
> % This is needed for these changes to take effect.
> \DeclareAutoCiteCommand{footnote}[l]{\footcite}{\footcites}
> \ExecuteBibliographyOptions{autocite=footnote}
>
>
> \begin{document}
>
> \autocite*{schillebeeckx1952}
>
> %\footcite*{schillebeeckx1952}
>
> \end{document}
>
> ================================================
>
>
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-
> > dis...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > Gesendet: Montag, 10. Mai 2021 00:07
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > \DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote]
> > {\usebibmacro{prenote}}%\bibsentence
> > {\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
> > %\usebibmacro{cite}
> > \usebibmacro{cite-without-author}}
> > {\multicitedelim}
> > {\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: Maier, Denis Christian (UB)
> > Gesendet: Montag, 10. Mai 2021 00:02:15
> > An: pandoc-discuss
> > Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > Biblatex-chicago defines autocite as footcute. The star is simply being
> passed
> > through. As there us no definition for footcite*, footcite* uses
> footcite* as a
> > fallback.
> > So, we need a definition for footcite* (\DeclareCiteCommand). In that
> > definition, call a big macro that doesn't print the authors.
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-
> > dis...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im Auftrag von Tom McLean
> > <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Mai 2021 23:24:07
> > An: pandoc-discuss
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > Can't renewcommand and newcommand both only take one optional
> > argument? autocite takes two (comments before and after the reference),
> > and while I don't think that causes me a problem in this instance, I'd
> rather a
> > solution that doesn't limit that if that's possible.
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 21:39:06 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
> > I don't think renewcommand is the best solution. There's a special
> interface
> > for citation commands.
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Mai 2021 21:31:05
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > Renewing \autocite* seems to be a good approach. So please try again and
> > reproduce your exact commands if the error persists!
> >
> > Le Sunday 09 May 2021 à 12:14:40PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > > Wouldn't that method also require me to manually insert
> > > \clearname{author} for all the relevant citations? At least, my quick
> > > attempt didn't seem happy with either \newcommand{\autocite*} or
> > > \renewcomand{\autocite*} – the former objecting because the unstarred
> > > version exists, and the latter because the starred doesn't. (Though I
> > > don't rule out the possibility of an error in the rest of the
> > > arguments to \(re)newcommand being part of the problem...)
> > >
> > > On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 17:04:59 UTC+2 jcr wrote:
> > >
> > > I meant \clearname{author}
> > >
> > > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:01:57 PM UTC+2 jcr wrote:
> > >
> > > See the first answer to this question:
> > > https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/ 262472/ I don't know if exactly the
> > > same code will work with biblatex-chicago, but it shows the general
> > > approach. You want to make a command to suppress printing of the
> > > author (in the linked answer, it's called \int@suppauth), and then
> > > invoke it at the beginning of the starred cite commands you declare.
> > > If it's sufficient to suppress the author's name, that command can be
> > > \clearname{authorname}, but Chicago style will substitute an editor or
> > > translator, so if the citations in question have one of those, you
> need a
> > more sophisticated solution.
> > >
> > > On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:43:44 PM UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > > Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:40:12
> > > An: pandoc-discuss
> > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> > >
> > > Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then!
> > >
> > > On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > > wrote:
> > > I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may
> > > want to look into how the standard styles do this.
> > > ________________________________________
> > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > > Auftrag von denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org <denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
> > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39
> > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > > Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
> > >
> > > It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in biblatex
> > > styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
> > >
> > > Denis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > > Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50
> > > An: pandoc-discuss
> > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> > >
> > > Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration,
> > > can anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on how
> > > to do so.
> > >
> > > Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving in
> > > the way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
> > >
> > > On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > > wrote:
> > > Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat
> > > unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at https:/
> > > /www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago<http://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-
> > ch
> > > icago>
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > > Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
> > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> > >
> > > biblatex-chicago (via biber)
> > >
> > > Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit
> > > :
> > > > What's the citation style?
> > > >
> > > > Denis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > > Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
> > > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> > > >
> > > > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}.
> > > From biblatex's manual
> > > > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave
> > > differently from the regular
> > > > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command."
> > > So you should probably
> > > > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a
> > > no-author command (but I
> > > > can't tell you more.
> > > >
> > > > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > > > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a
> > > pdf that shows
> > > > > what I'm getting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of
> > > what I'm using
> > > > > in case it's not a pandoc error!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a
> > > footnote are
> > > > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you
> > > could provide a
> > > > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this
> > > problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the
> > > footnote!
> > > > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the
> > > citation,
> > > > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need
> > > to
> > > > > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> > > > > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling to
> > > > > suppress author in the reference.
> > > > >
> > > > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> > > > > example):
> > > > >
> > > > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982; -@schillebeeckx1989c]
> > > > >
> > > > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> > > > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx, Gerechtigheid
> > > > > En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> > > > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van God
> > > > > (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> > > > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
> > > > >
> > > > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> > > > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote, which
> > > > > I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's any tricks
> > > > > anyone can share on how to fix those (if different), advice
> > > > > welcomed!
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks
> > > > >
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> > > > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952;
> > > -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a;
> > > -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work
> > > is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology
> > > of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the
> > > philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a
> > > framework shaped by phenomenology.
> > > > >
> > > > > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> > > > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}}, author =
> > > > > {Schillebeeckx, Henricus}, year = {1952}, publisher = {{'T
> > > > > Groeit}}, address = {{Antwerpen}} }
> > > > >
> > > > > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> > > > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting}, author =
> > > > > {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, year = {1964}, edition = {7de dr.},
> > > > > publisher = {{Nelissen}}, address = {{Bilthoven}} }
> > > > >
> > > > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> > > > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie}, author =
> > > > > {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, year = {1967}, publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > > > address = {{Bilthoven}} }
> > > > >
> > > > > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> > > > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> > > > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > > > year = {2005},
> > > > > edition = {First published 1967},
> > > > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> > > > > address = {{London}},
> > > > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> > > > > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> > > > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> > > > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> > > > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}}, author = {Schillebeeckx,
> > > > > Edward}, year = {2014}, edition = {First published 1959},
> > > > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}}, address = {{London}}, isbn =
> > > > > {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6}, keywords
> > > > > = {Catholic Church,Sacraments}, number = {1}, series = {The
> > > > > Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}} }
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The biblatex-chicago comes with a myriad of commands for basically every kind of situation you can possibly think of. I’m quite sure you can find a command there that works in your particular situation. However, that would mean writing latex directly, which may not be what you want. High-level wrappers like autocite only get you so far ...
Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von Tom McLean
Gesendet: Montag, 10. Mai 2021 11:37
An: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
Thank you – that looks perfect!
(It does break the slight bodge I had made on some of my more extended footnotes, but I will either have to adjust that, or dump less material in my footnotes...)
On Monday, 10 May 2021 at 10:35:02 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org<mailto:denis...@ub.unibe.ch> wrote:
Ok. Biblatex-chicago comes with a command \headlesscite with is already quite close to what you want. The definition is:
```
\DeclareCiteCommand{\headlesscite}
{\usebibmacro{prenote}}
{\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
\toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}%
\usebibmacro{clear+labelname}%
\usebibmacro \clearname{labelname}%
{cite}%
\global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}%
{\multicitedelim}
{\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
```
We can now simply take that definiton for the starred variant of footcite:
```
\DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote]
{\usebibmacro{prenote}}
{\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
\toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}%
\usebibmacro{clear+labelname}%
\clearname{labelname}%
\usebibmacro{cite}%
\global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}%
{\multicitedelim}
{\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
```
It will start working for \autocite* after these two lines:
```
\DeclareAutoCiteCommand{footnote}[l]{\footcite}{\footcites}
\ExecuteBibliographyOptions{autocite=footnote}
```
MWE below, PDF attached.
HTH,
Denis
================================================
\documentclass{article}
\begin{filecontents}[overwrite]{test.bib}
@book{schillebeeckx1952,
title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
year = {1952},
publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
address = {{Antwerpen}}
}
@book{schillebeeckx1964,
title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
year = {1964},
edition = {7de dr.},
publisher = {{Nelissen}},
address = {{Bilthoven}}
}
@book{schillebeeckx1967a,
title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
year = {1967},
publisher = {{Nelissen}},
address = {{Bilthoven}}
}
@book{schillebeeckx2005,
title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
year = {2005},
edition = {First published 1967},
publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
address = {{London}},
isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
keywords = {Transubstantiation},
lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
}
@book{schillebeeckx2014n,
title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
year = {2014},
edition = {First published 1959},
publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
address = {{London}},
isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
number = {1},
series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
}
\end{filecontents}
\usepackage[notes,backend=biber]{biblatex-chicago}
\addbibresource{test.bib}
% Declare footcite* just as headlesscite, but wrap it in a footnote
\DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote]
{\usebibmacro{prenote}}
{\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
\toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}%
\usebibmacro{clear+labelname}%
\clearname{labelname}%
\usebibmacro{cite}%
\global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}%
{\multicitedelim}
{\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
% This is needed for these changes to take effect.
\DeclareAutoCiteCommand{footnote}[l]{\footcite}{\footcites}
\ExecuteBibliographyOptions{autocite=footnote}
\begin{document}
\autocite*{schillebeeckx1952}
%\footcite*{schillebeeckx1952}
\end{document}
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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-
> dis...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> Gesendet: Montag, 10. Mai 2021 00:07
> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
>
> \DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote]
> {\usebibmacro{prenote}}%\bibsentence
> {\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
> %\usebibmacro{cite}
> \usebibmacro{cite-without-author}}
> {\multicitedelim}
> {\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: Maier, Denis Christian (UB)
> Gesendet: Montag, 10. Mai 2021 00:02:15
> An: pandoc-discuss
> Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Biblatex-chicago defines autocite as footcute. The star is simply being passed
> through. As there us no definition for footcite*, footcite* uses footcite* as a
> fallback.
> So, we need a definition for footcite* (\DeclareCiteCommand). In that
> definition, call a big macro that doesn't print the authors.
>
> ________________________________________
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> dis...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im Auftrag von Tom McLean
> <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Mai 2021 23:24:07
> An: pandoc-discuss
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Can't renewcommand and newcommand both only take one optional
> argument? autocite takes two (comments before and after the reference),
> and while I don't think that causes me a problem in this instance, I'd rather a
> solution that doesn't limit that if that's possible.
>
>
> On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 21:39:06 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
> I don't think renewcommand is the best solution. There's a special interface
> for citation commands.
> ________________________________________
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> Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Mai 2021 21:31:05
> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
> Renewing \autocite* seems to be a good approach. So please try again and
> reproduce your exact commands if the error persists!
>
> Le Sunday 09 May 2021 à 12:14:40PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > Wouldn't that method also require me to manually insert
> > \clearname{author} for all the relevant citations? At least, my quick
> > attempt didn't seem happy with either \newcommand{\autocite*} or
> > \renewcomand{\autocite*} – the former objecting because the unstarred
> > version exists, and the latter because the starred doesn't. (Though I
> > don't rule out the possibility of an error in the rest of the
> > arguments to \(re)newcommand being part of the problem...)
> >
> > On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 17:04:59 UTC+2 jcr wrote:
> >
> > I meant \clearname{author}
> >
> > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:01:57 PM UTC+2 jcr wrote:
> >
> > See the first answer to this question:
> > https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/ 262472/ I don't know if exactly the
> > same code will work with biblatex-chicago, but it shows the general
> > approach. You want to make a command to suppress printing of the
> > author (in the linked answer, it's called \int@suppauth), and then
> > invoke it at the beginning of the starred cite commands you declare.
> > If it's sufficient to suppress the author's name, that command can be
> > \clearname{authorname}, but Chicago style will substitute an editor or
> > translator, so if the citations in question have one of those, you need a
> more sophisticated solution.
> >
> > On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:43:44 PM UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:40:12
> > An: pandoc-discuss
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then!
> >
> > On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > wrote:
> > I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may
> > want to look into how the standard styles do this.
> > ________________________________________
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> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in biblatex
> > styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
> >
> > Denis
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
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> > Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50
> > An: pandoc-discuss
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration,
> > can anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on how
> > to do so.
> >
> > Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving in
> > the way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
> >
> > On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > wrote:
> > Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat
> > unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at https:/
> > /www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago<http://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago><http://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-
> ch
> > icago>
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
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> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > biblatex-chicago (via biber)
> >
> > Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit
> > :
> > > What's the citation style?
> > >
> > > Denis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
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> > Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
> > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> > >
> > > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}.
> > From biblatex's manual
> > > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave
> > differently from the regular
> > > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command."
> > So you should probably
> > > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a
> > no-author command (but I
> > > can't tell you more.
> > >
> > > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
> > > >
> > > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a
> > pdf that shows
> > > > what I'm getting.
> > > >
> > > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of
> > what I'm using
> > > > in case it's not a pandoc error!
> > > >
> > > > Thank you
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a
> > footnote are
> > > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you
> > could provide a
> > > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this
> > problem.
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the
> > footnote!
> > > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the
> > citation,
> > > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need
> > to
> > > > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> > > > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
> > > >
> > > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling to
> > > > suppress author in the reference.
> > > >
> > > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> > > > example):
> > > >
> > > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982; -@schillebeeckx1989c]
> > > >
> > > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
> > > >
> > > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> > > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx, Gerechtigheid
> > > > En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> > > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van God
> > > > (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
> > > >
> > > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> > > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
> > > >
> > > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> > > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote, which
> > > > I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's any tricks
> > > > anyone can share on how to fix those (if different), advice
> > > > welcomed!
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks
> > > >
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> > > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952;
> > -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a;
> > -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work
> > is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology
> > of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the
> > philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a
> > framework shaped by phenomenology.
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> > > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}}, author =
> > > > {Schillebeeckx, Henricus}, year = {1952}, publisher = {{'T
> > > > Groeit}}, address = {{Antwerpen}} }
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> > > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting}, author =
> > > > {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, year = {1964}, edition = {7de dr.},
> > > > publisher = {{Nelissen}}, address = {{Bilthoven}} }
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> > > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie}, author =
> > > > {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, year = {1967}, publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > > address = {{Bilthoven}} }
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> > > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> > > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > > year = {2005},
> > > > edition = {First published 1967},
> > > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> > > > address = {{London}},
> > > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> > > > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> > > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> > > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> > > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}}, author = {Schillebeeckx,
> > > > Edward}, year = {2014}, edition = {First published 1959},
> > > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}}, address = {{London}}, isbn =
> > > > {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6}, keywords
> > > > = {Catholic Church,Sacraments}, number = {1}, series = {The
> > > > Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}} }
> > > >
> > > >
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Yeah, keen to avoid that. I'm not doing anything complicated enough to
warrant it – and I suspect I've overcomplicated plenty already!!
On Monday, 10 May 2021 at 11:50:48 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
> The biblatex-chicago comes with a myriad of commands for basically every
> kind of situation you can possibly think of. I’m quite sure you can find a
> command there that works in your particular situation. However, that would
> mean writing latex directly, which may not be what you want. High-level
> wrappers like autocite only get you so far ...
>
>
>
> *Von:* pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> *Im
> Auftrag von *Tom McLean
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 10. Mai 2021 11:37
> *An:* pandoc-discuss <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
> *Betreff:* Re: Suppressing author in citation
>
>
>
> Thank you – that looks perfect!
>
>
>
> (It does break the slight bodge I had made on some of my more extended
> footnotes, but I will either have to adjust that, or dump less material in
> my footnotes...)
>
> On Monday, 10 May 2021 at 10:35:02 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
>
> Ok. Biblatex-chicago comes with a command \headlesscite with is already
> quite close to what you want. The definition is:
>
> ```
> \DeclareCiteCommand{\headlesscite}
> {\usebibmacro{prenote}}
> {\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
> \toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}%
> \usebibmacro{clear+labelname}%
> \usebibmacro \clearname{labelname}%
> {cite}%
> \global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}%
> {\multicitedelim}
> {\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
> ```
>
> We can now simply take that definiton for the starred variant of footcite:
>
> ```
> \DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote]
> {\usebibmacro{prenote}}
> {\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
> \toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}%
> \usebibmacro{clear+labelname}%
> \clearname{labelname}%
> \usebibmacro{cite}%
> \global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}%
> {\multicitedelim}
> {\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
> ```
>
> It will start working for \autocite* after these two lines:
>
> ```
> \DeclareAutoCiteCommand{footnote}[l]{\footcite}{\footcites}
> \ExecuteBibliographyOptions{autocite=footnote}
> ```
>
> MWE below, PDF attached.
>
> HTH,
> Denis
>
> ================================================
> \documentclass{article}
> \begin{filecontents}[overwrite]{test.bib}
> @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
> year = {1952},
> publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
> address = {{Antwerpen}}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {1964},
> edition = {7de dr.},
> publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> address = {{Bilthoven}}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {1967},
> publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> address = {{Bilthoven}}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {2005},
> edition = {First published 1967},
> publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> address = {{London}},
> isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> }
>
> @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
> author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> year = {2014},
> edition = {First published 1959},
> publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
> address = {{London}},
> isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
> keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
> number = {1},
> series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
> }
> \end{filecontents}
>
> \usepackage[notes,backend=biber]{biblatex-chicago}
> \addbibresource{test.bib}
>
> % Declare footcite* just as headlesscite, but wrap it in a footnote
> \DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote]
> {\usebibmacro{prenote}}
> {\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
> \toggletrue{cms@headlessnote}%
> \usebibmacro{clear+labelname}%
> \clearname{labelname}%
> \usebibmacro{cite}%
> \global\toggletrue{cms@noidem}}%
> {\multicitedelim}
> {\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
>
> % This is needed for these changes to take effect.
> \DeclareAutoCiteCommand{footnote}[l]{\footcite}{\footcites}
> \ExecuteBibliographyOptions{autocite=footnote}
>
>
> \begin{document}
>
> \autocite*{schillebeeckx1952}
>
> %\footcite*{schillebeeckx1952}
>
> \end{document}
>
> ================================================
>
>
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-
> > dis...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > Gesendet: Montag, 10. Mai 2021 00:07
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > \DeclareCiteCommand*{\footcite}[\mkbibfootnote]
> > {\usebibmacro{prenote}}%\bibsentence
> > {\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
> > %\usebibmacro{cite}
> > \usebibmacro{cite-without-author}}
> > {\multicitedelim}
> > {\usebibmacro{cite:postnote}}
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: Maier, Denis Christian (UB)
> > Gesendet: Montag, 10. Mai 2021 00:02:15
> > An: pandoc-discuss
> > Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > Biblatex-chicago defines autocite as footcute. The star is simply being
> passed
> > through. As there us no definition for footcite*, footcite* uses
> footcite* as a
> > fallback.
> > So, we need a definition for footcite* (\DeclareCiteCommand). In that
> > definition, call a big macro that doesn't print the authors.
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-
> > dis...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im Auftrag von Tom McLean
> > <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Mai 2021 23:24:07
> > An: pandoc-discuss
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > Can't renewcommand and newcommand both only take one optional
> > argument? autocite takes two (comments before and after the reference),
> > and while I don't think that causes me a problem in this instance, I'd
> rather a
> > solution that doesn't limit that if that's possible.
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 21:39:06 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
> > I don't think renewcommand is the best solution. There's a special
> interface
> > for citation commands.
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Mai 2021 21:31:05
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> >
> > Renewing \autocite* seems to be a good approach. So please try again and
> > reproduce your exact commands if the error persists!
> >
> > Le Sunday 09 May 2021 à 12:14:40PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > > Wouldn't that method also require me to manually insert
> > > \clearname{author} for all the relevant citations? At least, my quick
> > > attempt didn't seem happy with either \newcommand{\autocite*} or
> > > \renewcomand{\autocite*} – the former objecting because the unstarred
> > > version exists, and the latter because the starred doesn't. (Though I
> > > don't rule out the possibility of an error in the rest of the
> > > arguments to \(re)newcommand being part of the problem...)
> > >
> > > On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 17:04:59 UTC+2 jcr wrote:
> > >
> > > I meant \clearname{author}
> > >
> > > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:01:57 PM UTC+2 jcr wrote:
> > >
> > > See the first answer to this question:
> > > https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/ 262472/ I don't know if exactly the
> > > same code will work with biblatex-chicago, but it shows the general
> > > approach. You want to make a command to suppress printing of the
> > > author (in the linked answer, it's called \int@suppauth), and then
> > > invoke it at the beginning of the starred cite commands you declare.
> > > If it's sufficient to suppress the author's name, that command can be
> > > \clearname{authorname}, but Chicago style will substitute an editor or
> > > translator, so if the citations in question have one of those, you
> need a
> > more sophisticated solution.
> > >
> > > On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:43:44 PM UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > > Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:40:12
> > > An: pandoc-discuss
> > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> > >
> > > Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then!
> > >
> > > On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > > wrote:
> > > I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may
> > > want to look into how the standard styles do this.
> > > ________________________________________
> > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > > Auftrag von denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org <denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
> > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39
> > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > > Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
> > >
> > > It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in biblatex
> > > styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
> > >
> > > Denis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > > Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50
> > > An: pandoc-discuss
> > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> > >
> > > Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration,
> > > can anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on how
> > > to do so.
> > >
> > > Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving in
> > > the way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
> > >
> > > On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
> > > wrote:
> > > Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat
> > > unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at https:/
> > > /www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago<http://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-
> > ch
> > > icago>
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > > Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
> > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> > >
> > > biblatex-chicago (via biber)
> > >
> > > Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit
> > > :
> > > > What's the citation style?
> > > >
> > > > Denis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
> > > Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > > > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
> > > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > > > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> > > >
> > > > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}.
> > > From biblatex's manual
> > > > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave
> > > differently from the regular
> > > > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command."
> > > So you should probably
> > > > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a
> > > no-author command (but I
> > > > can't tell you more.
> > > >
> > > > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> > > > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a
> > > pdf that shows
> > > > > what I'm getting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of
> > > what I'm using
> > > > > in case it's not a pandoc error!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a
> > > footnote are
> > > > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you
> > > could provide a
> > > > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this
> > > problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the
> > > footnote!
> > > > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the
> > > citation,
> > > > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need
> > > to
> > > > > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
> > > > > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling to
> > > > > suppress author in the reference.
> > > > >
> > > > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
> > > > > example):
> > > > >
> > > > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982; -@schillebeeckx1989c]
> > > > >
> > > > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
> > > > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx, Gerechtigheid
> > > > > En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
> > > > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van God
> > > > > (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
> > > > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
> > > > >
> > > > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
> > > > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote, which
> > > > > I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's any tricks
> > > > > anyone can share on how to fix those (if different), advice
> > > > > welcomed!
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks
> > > > >
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> > > > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952;
> > > -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a;
> > > -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work
> > > is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology
> > > of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the
> > > philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a
> > > framework shaped by phenomenology.
> > > > >
> > > > > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
> > > > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}}, author =
> > > > > {Schillebeeckx, Henricus}, year = {1952}, publisher = {{'T
> > > > > Groeit}}, address = {{Antwerpen}} }
> > > > >
> > > > > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
> > > > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting}, author =
> > > > > {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, year = {1964}, edition = {7de dr.},
> > > > > publisher = {{Nelissen}}, address = {{Bilthoven}} }
> > > > >
> > > > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
> > > > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie}, author =
> > > > > {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, year = {1967}, publisher = {{Nelissen}},
> > > > > address = {{Bilthoven}} }
> > > > >
> > > > > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
> > > > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
> > > > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
> > > > > year = {2005},
> > > > > edition = {First published 1967},
> > > > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
> > > > > address = {{London}},
> > > > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
> > > > > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
> > > > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
> > > > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
> > > > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}}, author = {Schillebeeckx,
> > > > > Edward}, year = {2014}, edition = {First published 1959},
> > > > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}}, address = {{London}}, isbn =
> > > > > {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6}, keywords
> > > > > = {Catholic Church,Sacraments}, number = {1}, series = {The
> > > > > Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}} }
> > > > >
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