Using citeproc-js instead of pandoc-citeproc

Using citeproc-js instead of pandoc-citeproc

[Denis Maier]

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I was wondering why pandoc does not use citeproc-js but its own 
pandoc-citeproc. As far I understand citeproc-js is the canonical 
csl-implementation, and, as such, fully compliant with the 
csl-specification.

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Re: Using citeproc-js instead of pandoc-citeproc

[John MACFARLANE]

Several reasons:

1.  citeproc-js would be an external dependency that users would
have to install.  pandoc-citeproc is a Haskell library we
can just compile in.

2.  pandoc would have to shell out to call citeproc-js
(which, earlier, didn't even have a way to call it as a
standalone program)

3.  pandoc-citeproc works with native pandoc types.
With citeproc-js, we'd have to convert to citeproc JSON,
and then convert back.

4.  pandoc-citeproc handles math better (because it was
designed to work with pandoc's math support).


+++ Denis Maier [Oct 27 17 06:55 ]:
>   I was wondering why pandoc does not use citeproc-js but its own
>   pandoc-citeproc. As far I understand citeproc-js is the canonical
>   csl-implementation, and, as such, fully compliant with the
>   csl-specification.

Re: Using citeproc-js instead of pandoc-citeproc

[Denis Maier]

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Ok, I understand.
The reason for my question was that there are still some cases where 
pandoc-citeproc does not sticks to csl-rules 
(e.g. https://github.com/jgm/pandoc-citeproc/issues/79). And I thought it 
might be easier to use citeproc-js, which should be fully csl-compliant. 
But, if I understand your answer correctly, this will only lead to other 
problems.


Am Samstag, 28. Oktober 2017 00:22:50 UTC+2 schrieb John MacFarlane:
>
> Several reasons: 
>
> 1.  citeproc-js would be an external dependency that users would 
> have to install.  pandoc-citeproc is a Haskell library we 
> can just compile in. 
>
> 2.  pandoc would have to shell out to call citeproc-js 
> (which, earlier, didn't even have a way to call it as a 
> standalone program) 
>
> 3.  pandoc-citeproc works with native pandoc types. 
> With citeproc-js, we'd have to convert to citeproc JSON, 
> and then convert back. 
>
> 4.  pandoc-citeproc handles math better (because it was 
> designed to work with pandoc's math support). 
>
>
> +++ Denis Maier [Oct 27 17 06:55 ]: 
> >   I was wondering why pandoc does not use citeproc-js but its own 
> >   pandoc-citeproc. As far I understand citeproc-js is the canonical 
> >   csl-implementation, and, as such, fully compliant with the 
> >   csl-specification. 
>
>

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Re: Using citeproc-js instead of pandoc-citeproc

[John MacFarlane]

You can report issues to jgm/pandoc-citeproc's bug tracker.
We will try to fix them.

+++ Denis Maier [Nov 09 17 00:50 ]:
>   Ok, I understand.
>   The reason for my question was that there are still some cases where
>   pandoc-citeproc does not sticks to csl-rules
>   (e.g. https://github.com/jgm/pandoc-citeproc/issues/79). And I thought
>   it might be easier to use citeproc-js, which should be fully
>   csl-compliant. But, if I understand your answer correctly, this will
>   only lead to other problems.
>   Am Samstag, 28. Oktober 2017 00:22:50 UTC+2 schrieb John MacFarlane:
>
>     Several reasons:
>     1.  citeproc-js would be an external dependency that users would
>     have to install.  pandoc-citeproc is a Haskell library we
>     can just compile in.
>     2.  pandoc would have to shell out to call citeproc-js
>     (which, earlier, didn't even have a way to call it as a
>     standalone program)
>     3.  pandoc-citeproc works with native pandoc types.
>     With citeproc-js, we'd have to convert to citeproc JSON,
>     and then convert back.
>     4.  pandoc-citeproc handles math better (because it was
>     designed to work with pandoc's math support).
>     +++ Denis Maier [Oct 27 17 06:55 ]:
>     >   I was wondering why pandoc does not use citeproc-js but its own
>     >   pandoc-citeproc. As far I understand citeproc-js is the
>     canonical
>     >   csl-implementation, and, as such, fully compliant with the
>     >   csl-specification.
>
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