From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.text.pandoc/18143 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Francisco Lopes Newsgroups: gmane.text.pandoc Subject: Re: Markdown -> plain: How to preserve blockquotes? 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Again, try turning= =20 > off markdown extensions to make it more "lightweight" and tailor that as= =20 > your "plaintext".=20 > The problem is that turning off markdown extensions to achieve plain text= =20 will simply not work afaik. For example, current plain text output will turn bold markdown **text** to= =20 all caps plain TEXT. Which I find nice, I find it logical for plain text output. Can't it be done by turning off=20 flags? The thing is that what I want has no standard yet, it's something target=20 for plain text EML, between current plain text and markdown. IMO, **foo** etc, clutters plain text output. Another=20 possible feature of such target output could be to always move url links to footer while leaving anchors in the=20 main content. Regards =20 > Regarding treating list marker as plaintext or not: we need to ask=20 > ourselves what do we mean when we say plaintext and markdown. In the=20 > "markdown wins the plaintext war" camp, markdown is plaintext. Just to lo= ok=20 > up wikipedia in , non-binary= =20 > formats are plaintext, like most of the pandoc formats including HTML. So= =20 > pandoc's plain format definitely has a special meaning than these. And @j= gm=20 > just defined it above. Lastly, when I say the list marker isn't plaintext= ,=20 > I'm thinking in terms of "stringify". Like if given a document, if I'm to= =20 > remove every formatting features, what would I be left with? Or in other= =20 > words, if I speak it out without any help from those markups, what would= =20 > that be? In this sense, a list in *plain* text is like "Give me a pen,=20 > pencil, and ruler." By the way, I think in typography, when you write tha= t=20 > in a list (with list markers), the rule to apply punctuation marks and=20 > connectives is exactly as if you write it out in a sentence. i.e. the lis= t=20 > marker is just a visual element to better represent the information. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/= pandoc-discuss/9d2b4cdb-b236-42bd-baea-ff53da0ca1ed%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_1159_1753307654.1504634570978 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Em ter=C3=A7a-feira, 5 de setembro de 2017 09:16:4= 1 UTC-3, Kolen Cheung escreveu:
Regarding treatin= g list marker as plaintext or not: we need to ask ourselves what do we mean= when we say plaintext and markdown. In the "markdown wins the plainte= xt war" camp, markdown is plaintext. Just to look up wikipedia in <= https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_text>, non-binary formats are plaintext, like most of = the pandoc formats including HTML. So pandoc's plain format definitely = has a special meaning than these. And @jgm just defined it above. Lastly, w= hen I say the list marker isn't plaintext, I'm thinking in terms of= "stringify". Like if given a document, if I'm to remove ever= y formatting features, what would I be left with? Or in other words, if I s= peak it out without any help from those markups, what would that be? In thi= s sense, a list in *plain* text is like "Give me a pen, pencil, and ru= ler." By the way, I think in typography, when you write that in a list= (with list markers), the rule to apply punctuation marks and connectives i= s exactly as if you write it out in a sentence. i.e. the list marker is jus= t a visual element to better represent the information.

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