Re: Going round in circles with latex output

[Lyndon Drake <lyndon-S8RYeTzMgQ3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>]

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Here's some Syriac, generated from a CSV file with inline Markdown spans 
and emphasis:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/65s7gqghezsthfq/Screenshot%202017-06-06%2022.03.04.png?dl=0

On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 9:51:59 PM UTC+1, Lyndon Drake wrote:
>
> I've got a fair way with this. Thanks to all for the help so far.
>
> 1. By reading through the template, I figured out which variables to 
> define to control the LaTeX output. I'm seriously impressed with Pandoc's 
> setup - I remember the awful pain of doing a LaTeX document from scratch 
> and this gets things started so well. Thank you John & everyone else!
>
> 2. As suggested by Joost, I shifted the package load order around, 
> retaining all the conditionals and variables in the template. I've now got 
> something which is only different by some reordering from the default 
> template, but which avoids the longtable/bidi conflict. Thanks Joost!
>
> I've also been playing around with a couple of filters, based on code from 
> Jesse Rosenthal on this list a few years back. It sort of works, but not 
> well enough to rely on. For the moment, I'm just going to tag every word 
> and block with div/span.
>
> It did also occur to me that the proper place to do this stuff is actually 
> in LaTeX, not Pandoc. E.g. I'm going to use biblatex, and I'd want the same 
> rules applied to the output from biblatex. There's a package:
>
> https://github.com/Pomax/ucharclasses
>
> which does some of this. One way to do it would be to implement the 
> Unicode bidi algorithm http://unicode.org/reports/tr9/ (+ some sensible 
> font switching, which is actually easier than the bidi algorithm) as a 
> LaTeX package, but that's a bit much for my current document. I might have 
> a look at ways to do this properly in July & August though, as I'd like to 
> have it available before I start my thesis.
>
> Anyway for the moment I'm pleased that I could get this far:
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/aeyvkjrox5dwtpz/Screenshot%202017-06-06%2021.37.41.png?dl=0
>
> without having to type anything other than plain Pandoc Markdown into some 
> text & csv files, and all the formatting has been done by Pandoc and some 
> config. The thing that made me want to use Pandoc was the memory of my 
> previous thesis (in computer science) where the markup made the document so 
> cluttered I found it almost impossible to actually read the text in the 
> editor. This is promising enough that I'm going to persevere to get a setup 
> that will work for the upcoming thesis.
>
> Best,
> Lyndon
>
> PS: in case it's of use to others, the relevant bits of YAML:
>
>   header-includes:
>     - \newfontfamily\hebrewfont{Taamey David CLM}
>     - \newfontfamily\syriacfont{Serto Jerusalem}
>   lang: en-GB
>   otherlangs: [he, syr]
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 5:26:21 PM UTC+1, Joost wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 06 2017, Lyndon Drake wrote: 
>> > Part of the problem is that if I set lang and otherlangs as 
>> > follows: 
>> > 
>> >   lang: en-GB 
>> >   otherlangs: [he, sy] 
>> >   
>> > I get this: 
>> > 
>> > ! Package bidi Error: Oops! you have loaded package longtable 
>> > after bidi 
>> > packag 
>> > 
>> > e. Please load package longtable before bidi package, and then 
>> > try to run 
>> > xelatex on your document again. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > which I guess means that some kind of strange interaction in the 
>> > latex 
>> > template is producing an undesirable latex file to feed to 
>> > xelatex (maybe 
>> > pandoc-csv2table is doing something to the produced latex?). 
>>
>> No, the template is structured in such a way that polyglossia is 
>> loaded before longtable, but polyglossia loads bidi in order to 
>> deal with RTL languages such as Syriac. 
>>
>> I think your best bet would be to modify the default template and 
>> load the other languages somewhere toward the end of the preamble, 
>> after longtable and any other packages are loaded. But you'll need 
>> to know some LaTeX and understand how Pandoc's template language 
>> works in order to do that. 
>>
>> In actual fact, though, this may be something John needs to think 
>> about, because the default LaTeX template obviously has a problem 
>> here. 
>>
>> HTH 
>>
>> -- 
>> Joost Kremers 
>> Life has its moments 
>>
>

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