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[185.70.40.132]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id be27-20020a05651c171b00b00261e5b01fe0si291130ljb.6.2022.09.23.12.23.24 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 23 Sep 2022 12:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of njbart-g/b1ySJe57IN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org designates 185.70.40.132 as permitted sender) client-ip=185.70.40.132; In-Reply-To: Feedback-ID: 4043004:user:proton X-Original-Sender: njbart-g/b1ySJe57IN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@protonmail.com header.s=protonmail3 header.b=QSJHQyGq; spf=pass (google.com: domain of njbart-g/b1ySJe57IN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org designates 185.70.40.132 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=njbart-g/b1ySJe57IN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org; dmarc=pass (p=QUARANTINE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=protonmail.com X-Original-From: Nick Bart Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.text.pandoc:31445 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --b1_DIrvgxf0cY7wvmLRB8A9T2mci7iHVBnAXzZm2WONpE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't have a clear solution, but it looks like the root cause is that in = the absence of an author, the title is moved to the beginning position *an= d* the date consists only of the year. Adding a full date to the example from the initial post the result is =E2=80=9CA DSL That Is Concise and Fun.=E2=80=9D 2021. November 23, 2021. https://web.archive.org/web/20211216060806/https://twitter.com/scalding. ... and adding an author as well results in Scalding. 2021. =E2=80=9CA DSL That Is Concise and Fun.=E2=80=9D November 2= 3, 2021. https://web.archive.org/web/20211216060806/https://twitter.com/scalding. Now, at least the latter results looks perfectly normal, so I don't think t= his is a CSL style issue per se. I guess in principle, the mechanism that moves the title could be made to a= lso check whether this leaves years or a date and a year side by side. On the other hand, I'm not sure this is really worthwhile, since in practic= e you should probably always include an organization field in the biblatex = data, which in turn ensures that the year and full date are separate, even = if there is no author and the title is moved. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/= pandoc-discuss/Awmp_-n0ldFy73juJM-rHKUPA5-zKZrZvo9DhcuCMaBSPlcEdCGvYZYNWQFY= cNqOgjYD7OIrHqaWzl_lJdE7MOfRdtYzPtVy3D_6bjvaG10%3D%40protonmail.com. --b1_DIrvgxf0cY7wvmLRB8A9T2mci7iHVBnAXzZm2WONpE Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't have a clear solution, but it looks like the root cause = is that in the absence of an author,  the title is moved to the = beginning position *and* the date consists only of the year.<= /div>

Adding a full date to the example from the i= nitial post the result is

=E2=80=9CA = DSL That Is Concise and Fun.=E2=80=9D 2021. November 23, 2021.
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Now, at least the latter results looks p= erfectly normal, so I don't think this is a CSL style issue per se.<= /div>

I guess in principle, the mechanism that mov= es the title could be made to also check whether this leaves years or a dat= e and a year side by side.

On the oth= er hand, I'm not sure this is really worthwhile, since in practice you shou= ld probably always include an organization field in the biblatex data, whic= h in turn ensures that the year and full date are separate, even if there i= s no author and the title is moved.

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