I'm really not sure what to say: people here seem to want
a logo much more than I do, so I feel a lot of pressure.
But since I don't think we NEED a logo, I'm not going to go
to go for one unless it really looks right.
I actually think this one by Alexis is pretty nice, though
now it has been accused of amateurism. Well, I'm not a graphic
designer, so I wouldn't know. But I like it better than the other
proposals of reverse pilcrows in boxes.
I do think that it makes sense, if we have a logo, to have
the canonical version be a particular vector image, and not
just, say, a reverse pilcrow typeset any old way. That's not a
logo, it's just a symbol.
Alexis BRENON <brenon.alexis-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
> I agree that it doesn't have to be a real/specific font.
> In the beginning, the idea was to be able to insert the logo without
> relying on a "premade" image.
> But as we can see, using the chosen pilcrow as a letter inside a word
> doesn't feel well.
> Moreover, as it is a manually reversed pilcrow, it can't be easily added to
> all formats.
> In my opinion, designing a "pictural" logo would let us more room to make a
> good one, and would better fit the use cases (like the one showcased by
> @allefeld).
>
> From this idea, I made a variant of the Vollkorn pilcrow taking some ideas
> from the whole conversation.
> John seems to like to see the "pi" letter as well as a "D", and most of us
> agree on using something looking like a "P".
> So I separated the bowl from the vertical lines bringing some advantages:
> * The "pi" and the "D" are more visible (I can still do more works on the
> upper junction to make the "pi" more evident -- adding some curve similar
> to the left one, making some offset overlap to highlight the separation,
> etc.)
> * We keep a "P" shape related to the first letter of "Pandoc"
> * It is not a "simple" pilcrow anymore, so decrease the risk of confusion
> from the users.
>
> Using a box around is a good idea making it stands as "I am a logo".
> However, a simple square or diamond doesn't bring much meaning.
> I used an ISO A4 page symbol which was often used in the previous logo
> propositions.
> One more time, some more work can be done here, like using a letter-sized
> page (which would make it more squarish).
>
> [image: logo_512.png]
>
> What do you think about this compromised: starting from a well-designed
> pilcrow and customizing it to make it looks like a logo.
>
> Kind.
>
> Le mar. 14 janv. 2020 à 21:46, BPJ <melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> a écrit :
>
>> Does it necessarily have to be a specific font? I doubt people will care
>> about such details as long as the general look is the expected one, the
>> pilcrow, a box (the idea of a square rotated 45 degrees, i.e. a lozenge,
>> seems a good one to me BTW) and the expected general color in a color
>> document. OTOH if the font is the "right" one but other details are wrong,
>> like a non-reversed pilcrow, a circle instead of a box or the wrong color
>> the "right" font doesn't help. Most people who aren't font nerds (I used
>> to be one when I was younger actually) won't notice any font differences
>> less gross than filled vs. not filled, w/o a "leg" or sans vs. serif.
>>
>>
>> Den tors 9 jan. 2020 18:52allefeld <c_a-1KBjaw7Xf1+zQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>>
>>> I did have the concern expressed above that the reversed Pilcrow
>>>> in a box e.g. in an editor menu looks like it should create a new
>>>> paragraph,
>>>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't be too concerned about that. The Pilcrow is familiar as an
>>> end-of-paragraph symbol, but I have never seen an editor that uses it to
>>> stand for "create paragraph".
>>>
>>> Apparently there is a Pilcrow button in MS Word, but that stands for
>>> "show hidden formatting".
>>>
>>> For my own package, I think that the documentation
>>> https://github.com/allefeld/atom-pandoc-pdf#toolbar-buttons
>>> should make it completely clear.
>>>
>>> And once the symbol is used on the Pandoc website, users will
>>> automatically start associating it with Pandoc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> and isn't obviously recognizable as a logo.
>>>>
>>>
>>> A properly designed logo would certainly be nice. A while ago there was a
>>> comment from a designer on the repo offering to design a logo. I left a
>>> comment, maybe he chimes in.
>>>
>>> But I would propose that for the moment we just settle on a font, and
>>> leave possible further logo design for the future.
>>>
>>> And that would mean that you, John, have to decide which font it is
>>> supposed to be. :)
>>>
>>> C
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