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In that way, people who just want to user the basic elements can use pantable, and you can use the other one to push capabilities to the limit. Also, I agree that requiring numpy instead as having it optional is not always the best, as on Windows you might want to install it from the unofficial precompiled binaries, that AFAIK are faster. Let me know how it goes! Cheers, Sergio On Aug 1, 2017 5:10 AM, "Kolen Cheung" wrote: Hi, I'd like to hear your opinion on pantable's dependencies. For now, pantable only depends on panflute (and else all in Python's standard library). But there's a few things I want to do that would be impossible without further dependencies. Notable ones are matplotlib, numpy, scipy, matplotlib2tikz, pandas. And you can see these are related to plots and/or CSV readers/writers. Other potential dependencies would be xlsx reader/writer, etc. Some of the dependencies are quite big and I'm not certain if they'll build successfully on alternative architecture. So I think I either list all these into the dependencies and make all pantable users also install them, or I make them optional dependencies, where some functions will only function if those are installed (with error hinting which to install). While the later approach seems best to have minimal impact on the others, the former approach is more "all-inclusive", and will be easier to maintain for example for which CSV reader/writer to use (I'd want to use pandas' but if pandas is optional then I need to deal with 2 different implementations leading to potentially different behaviors. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ topic/pandoc-discuss/znGQ62WpWrg/unsubscribe. 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Another option is to have another package (e.g. pant= able_extended) that does it.

In that way, people who just want to user the basic elements can use p= antable, and you can use the other one to push capabilities to the limit.

Also, I agree that requir= ing numpy instead as having it optional is not always the best, as on Windo= ws you might want to install it from the unofficial precompiled binaries, t= hat AFAIK are faster.

Le= t me know how it goes!
Cheers,
Sergio

On Aug 1, 2017 5:10 AM, "Kolen Cheung" <christian.kolen-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Hi, I'd = like to hear your opinion on pantable's dependencies.

For now, pantable only depends on panflute (and else all in Python's = standard library). But there's a few things I want to do that would be = impossible without further dependencies. Notable ones are matplotlib, numpy= , scipy, matplotlib2tikz, pandas. And you can see these are related to plot= s and/or CSV readers/writers. Other potential dependencies would be xlsx re= ader/writer, etc.

Some of the dependencies are qui= te big and I'm not certain if they'll build successfully on alterna= tive architecture. So I think I either list all these into the dependencies= and make all pantable users also install them, or I make them optional dep= endencies, where some functions will only function if those are installed (= with error hinting which to install). While the later approach seems best t= o have minimal impact on the others, the former approach is more "all-= inclusive", and will be easier to maintain for example for which CSV r= eader/writer to use (I'd want to use pandas' but if pandas is optio= nal then I need to deal with 2 different implementations leading to potenti= ally different behaviors.

Thanks.

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