From: BPJ <melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Can't access keys containing spaces in pandoc
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 22:31:08 +0200 [thread overview]
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If the rule is maximally simple, along the lines of `s/[^-A-Za-z0-9]+/_/g`,
perhaps followed by `s/^_+|_+$//g` I think conversion between key text and
variable name would be easily grasped by anyone. In practice Unicode
support would be desirable — even in Icelandic it's moderatly easy to come
up with a whole phrase which contains only one or two ASCII letters — and
combining marks are essential in some languages, so it's probably safer to
replace all sequences of space and ASCII punctuation with underscores or
hyphens: `s/[\s\pZ\p{PosixPunct}]+/-/g` — I can easily provide a list of
the Unicode code points which match that regex — to get results which are
intelligible practically always irrespective of language. It's hardly
reasonable to expect that you will get distinct identifiers from `1 (a)`
and `1 [a]`.
Den ons 4 sep. 2019 10:40Frederik Hartmann <hecknar-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
> I think that at the end of the day, everything might depend on how the
> current internal implementation of the template engine is.
> From an end user perspective
>
>
> $this.is.a.stupid."name with $, . and spaces"$ might actually be great
> and more generic than simply replacing spaces with _.
> I think allowing spaces or special characters without quoting them might
> be unwise and this would bring us extremely close to allowing everything
> yaml supports.
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, 4. September 2019 07:34:20 UTC+2 schrieb jiewuza:
>>
>>
>> This issue came up from yaml, so first of all I would like to make sure:
>>
>> Are we going to just support spaces or all the valid yaml thing
>> (https://yaml.org/spec/1.2/spec.html#id2770814)
>>
>>
>> And from the user's point of view, I prefer the former. Because the
>> naming is consistent, and it is easier for users to customize templates
>> without bearing any rules in mind.
>>
>>
>> John MacFarlane <j...-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>> > It's something we could think about.
>> >
>> > There are two possible approaches here.
>> >
>> > 1. Modify doctemplates (our templating engine) to allow spaces in
>> > variables. This would mean allowing things like
>> >
>> > $this is a long variable name$
>> >
>> > in a template. I think this kind of thing makes it less clear
>> > where the variables are, but it shouldn't pose any problem in
>> principle.
>> >
>> > 2. Modify pandoc so that, when metadata is used to populate
>> > template variables, spaces are automatically replaced by
>> > underscores. In this case you'd use
>> >
>> > $this_is_a_long_variable_name$
>> >
>> > in your template.
>> >
>> > Comments (from anyone) are welcome.
>> >
>> > Frederik Hartmann <hec...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>> >
>> >> That's really not the answer I'd have hoped to hear...
>> >>
>> >> Do you know if a PR fixing this might be getting accepted?
>> >> It's really limiting when perfectly valid yaml can't be used as
>> template
>> >> input.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks a lot though.
>>
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2019-09-02 9:10 Frederik Hartmann
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2019-09-02 9:37 ` James
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2019-09-02 10:32 ` Frederik Hartmann
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2019-09-02 17:28 ` John MacFarlane
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2019-09-02 20:19 ` Frederik Hartmann
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2019-09-03 16:25 ` John MacFarlane
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2019-09-03 16:35 ` Daniel Staal
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2019-09-03 17:20 ` Benct Philip Jonsson
2019-09-04 5:33 ` jiewuza
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2019-09-04 8:39 ` Frederik Hartmann
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2019-09-06 20:31 ` BPJ [this message]
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