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[2607:f8b0:4864:20::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z7si770512ilz.1.2020.01.14.12.46.23 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 14 Jan 2020 12:46:23 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::22e; Original-Received: by mail-oi1-x22e.google.com with SMTP id 13so13179065oij.13 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 12:46:23 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:aca:d985:: with SMTP id q127mr17384805oig.132.1579034782490; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 12:46:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <921cd6a2-2d51-4c82-bf29-97627318519f-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> X-Original-Sender: melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=lO8owpfV; spf=pass (google.com: domain of melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.text.pandoc:24203 Archived-At: --0000000000004c688a059c1faf13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Does it necessarily have to be a specific font? I doubt people will care about such details as long as the general look is the expected one, the pilcrow, a box (the idea of a square rotated 45 degrees, i.e. a lozenge, seems a good one to me BTW) and the expected general color in a color document. OTOH if the font is the "right" one but other details are wrong, like a non-reversed pilcrow, a circle instead of a box or the wrong color the "right" font doesn't help. Most people who aren't font nerds (I used to be one when I was younger actually) won't notice any font differences less gross than filled vs. not filled, w/o a "leg" or sans vs. serif. Den tors 9 jan. 2020 18:52allefeld skrev: > I did have the concern expressed above that the reversed Pilcrow >> in a box e.g. in an editor menu looks like it should create a new >> paragraph, > > > I wouldn't be too concerned about that. The Pilcrow is familiar as an > end-of-paragraph symbol, but I have never seen an editor that uses it to > stand for "create paragraph". > > Apparently there is a Pilcrow button in MS Word, but that stands for "show > hidden formatting". > > For my own package, I think that the documentation > https://github.com/allefeld/atom-pandoc-pdf#toolbar-buttons > should make it completely clear. > > And once the symbol is used on the Pandoc website, users will > automatically start associating it with Pandoc. > > > >> and isn't obviously recognizable as a logo. >> > > A properly designed logo would certainly be nice. A while ago there was a > comment from a designer on the repo offering to design a logo. I left a > comment, maybe he chimes in. > > But I would propose that for the moment we just settle on a font, and > leave possible further logo design for the future. > > And that would mean that you, John, have to decide which font it is > supposed to be. :) > > C > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/921cd6a2-2d51-4c82-bf29-97627318519f%40googlegroups.com > > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. 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Does it necessarily have to be a specific font? I doubt p= eople will care about such details as long as the general look is the expec= ted one, the pilcrow, a box (the idea of a square rotated 45 degrees, i.e. = a lozenge, seems a good one to me BTW) and the expected general color in a = color document. OTOH if the font is the "right" one but other det= ails are wrong, like a non-reversed pilcrow, a circle instead of a box or t= he wrong color the "right" font doesn't help.=C2=A0 Most peop= le who aren't font nerds (I used to be one when I was younger actually)= won't notice any font differences less gross than filled vs. not fille= d, w/o a "leg" or sans vs. serif.


Den = tors 9 jan. 2020 18:52allefeld <c_a@pos= teo.de> skrev:
I did have the concern expresse= d above that the reversed Pilcrow
in a box e.g. in an editor menu looks like it should create a new
paragraph,

I wouldn't be too concer= ned about that. The Pilcrow is familiar as an end-of-paragraph symbol, but = I have never seen an editor that uses it to stand for "create paragrap= h".

Apparently there is a Pilcrow button in M= S Word, but that stands for "show hidden formatting".
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For my own package, I think that the documentation
should make it completely = clear.

And once the symbol is used on the Pandoc w= ebsite, users will automatically start associating it with Pandoc.

=C2=A0
an= d isn't obviously recognizable as a logo.

A properly designed logo would certain= ly be nice. A while ago there was a comment from a designer on the repo off= ering to design a logo. I left a comment, maybe he chimes in.
But I would propose that for the moment we just settle on a fon= t, and leave possible further logo design for the future.

And that would mean that you, John, have to decide which font it is= supposed to be. :)

C

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