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Have you tried what happens with `--filter citeproc`? Does it work at all? I have no data to test that on ATM. Den tors 30 juni 2022 18:30John Carter Wood skrev: > Thanks! > > This is the command I used: > > pandoc CSL-Test.md -o CSL-test.docx --citeproc --lua-filter > pandoc-quotes.lua > --reference-doc=3D/home/john/.pandoc/templates/custom-reference.docx > CSL-Test.md > > Shouldn't this order have the same effect as what you suggested? > > > > > > > BPJ schrieb am Donnerstag, 30. Juni 2022 um 18:23:27 UTC+2: > >> Have you tried running pandoc-quotes.lua after citeproc? >> >> use this in a defaults file: >> >> ``````yaml >> filters: >> - citeproc >> - pandoc-quotes.lua >> `````` >> >> Make sure to remove any `citeproc: true` field! >> >> Den tors 30 juni 2022 14:42John Carter Wood skrev: >> >>> That's very helpful, thank you! >>> >>> I had looked at the spec but overlooked the part on locales and quotes. >>> >>> >>> https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/stable/translating-locale-files.html= #punctuation >>> >>> I will give that a try (probably tomorrow) and report whether it works >>> for me or other problems crop up. >>> >>> >>> suki...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org schrieb am Donnerstag, 30. Juni 2022 um 14:34:13 >>> UTC+2: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> After looking at the spec (the only experience I have with CSL files), >>>> I think you would need to modify your CSL file, Add a locale element i= n the >>>> root style element, like this: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> (Or try left-inner-quote and right-inner quote instead, maybe) >>>> Hth, >>>> Sukil >>>> >>>> El 30/06/2022 a las 14:04, John Carter Wood escribi=C3=B3: >>>> >>>> In setting up a CSL file for a German-language publisher (but for >>>> English-language texts), I've run into the issue of needing to change = the >>>> typographical quotation marks when converting from Markdown to docx or= pdf. >>>> I am familiar with pandoc-quotes.lua but when using it, it changes the >>>> quote marks in the main text, but not in the citations (which come fro= m a >>>> json file). >>>> >>>> So, I have to use this group of quotation marks: =C2=BB=C2=AB=E2=80=BA= =E2=80=B9, which I have set >>>> in a YAML block (quot-marks: =C2=BB=C2=AB=E2=80=BA=E2=80=B9). (The doc= ument language is set to >>>> en-GB.) >>>> >>>> The result changes the main text quotation marks but not the citations >>>> (see screenshot). >>>> >>>> [image: Screenshot from 2022-06-30 13-55-41.png] >>>> >>>> Is there a way of getting the quotation marks I want in the citations >>>> as well? >>>> >>>> (pandoc-version 2.18) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/da178cb2-48fa-4f53-84= 17-02dcae0129acn%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> . >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/062deeeb-9dfb-4ca3-ae3= a-10b360293315n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/0db7e968-6c00-4399-bd8e-= a7b2ad46a841n%40googlegroups.com > > . > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. 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IIUC --citeproc corresponds to `citeproc: true`. Have you= tried what happens with `--filter citeproc`? Does it work at all? I have n= o data to test that on ATM.

Den tors 30 juni 2022 18:30John Carter Wood <= woodjo-ZOsAvrTRSvuEhhMi0yms2Q@public.gmane.org> skrev:
Thanks!

This is the command = I used:

pandoc CSL-Test.md -o CSL-test.docx --citeproc --lua-f= ilter pandoc-quotes.lua --reference-doc=3D/home/john/.pandoc/templates/cust= om-reference.docx CSL-Test.md

Shouldn't this o= rder have the same effect as what you suggested?






BPJ schrieb am Donnerstag, 30. Juni 2022 um 18:23:27 UTC+2:
Have you = tried running pandoc-quotes.lua after citeproc?

=
use this in a defaults file:

<= /div>
``````yaml
filters:
=C2=A0 - citeproc
=C2=A0 - pandoc-quot= es.lua
``````

Make sure to remove any `citeproc: true` field!
Den tors 30 juni 2022 14:42John Carter Wood <woo...-ZOsAvrTRSvuEhhMi0yms2Q@public.gmane.org> skrev:
That's ver= y helpful, thank you!

I had looked at the spec but overlooked the p= art on locales and quotes.

https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/st= able/translating-locale-files.html#punctuation

I will give that = a try (probably tomorrow) and report whether it works for me or other probl= ems crop up.


suki...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org schrieb am Donnerstag, 30. Juni 2022 um 14:34:13 = UTC+2:
=20 =20 =20

Hi,

After looking at the spec (the only experience I have with CSL files), I think you would need to modify your CSL file, Add a locale element in the root style element, like this:


<style>

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <locale xml:lang=3D"en">

=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <terms>
=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <= term name =3D "open-quote">&laquo;</term>
=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <= term name =3D "close-quote">&raquo;</term>
=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </terms>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </locale>
</style>
(Or try left-inner-quote and right-inner quote instead, maybe)
Hth,
Sukil

El 30/06/2022 a las 14:04, John Carter Wood escribi=C3=B3:
=20 In setting up a CSL file for a German-language publisher (but for English-language texts), I've run into the issue of needing to change the typographical quotation marks when converting from Markdown to docx or pdf. I am familiar with pandoc-quotes.lua but when using it, it changes the quote marks in the main text, but not in the citations (which come from a json file).

So, I have to use this group of quotation marks: =C2=BB=C2=AB=E2= =80=BA=E2=80=B9, which I have set in a YAML block (quot-marks: =C2=BB=C2=AB=E2=80=BA=E2=80= =B9). (The document language is set to en-GB.)

The result changes the main text quotation marks but not the citations (see screenshot).

3D"Screenshot

Is there a way of getting the quotation marks I want in the citations as well?

(pandoc-version 2.18)
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