Issues with Quotation Marks in Pandoc When Mixing Japanese and English Texts

Issues with Quotation Marks in Pandoc When Mixing Japanese and English Texts

[Shigeru Kobayashi]

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Dear Pandoc community,

I have encountered two issues regarding Pandoc's handling of quotation 
marks in cases where Japanese and English texts are mixed.

I am using Pandoc version 3.1.2 on macOS 12.6.3, and I can reproduce these 
issues. If these are indeed bugs, I am planning to submit them as issues on 
GitHub. However, I would appreciate any guidance if these issues arise from 
my incorrect usage.


*Issue 1: Conversion of English phrases within Japanese text*
I have observed the following issue. "input.md" is the input file, and 
"input.tex" is the output file.

$ pandoc input.md -o input.tex

input.md:
その人は"Hello, world!"と言いました。

input.tex:
その人は''Hello, world!{}``と言いました。

However, the conversion is correct when spaces are added before and after 
the double quotation marks.

input.md:
その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。

input.tex:
その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。


*Issue 2: The quotation marks are treated as Japanese text*

When converting with Pandoc, the quotation marks are treated as Japanese 
text, resulting in an unnaturally wide gap. I have confirmed this using two 
files, "preamble.tex" and "input.md," and specifying as follows:

$ pandoc input.md -o input.pdf --pdf-engine=xelatex -H preamble.tex.

preamble.tex:
\usepackage{fontspec}

\setmainfont{Georgia}
\setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}


input.md:
---
documentclass: bxjsarticle
classoption: pandoc
papersize: a4
fontsize: 10pt
---

# はじめに

その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。

That person said, "Hello, world!"

[image: pandoc test 2023-04-10 8.47.43.png]

In contrast, when I directly write the content in TeX and output it using $ 
xelatex test.tex, the quotation marks are treated as English text, and the 
expected output is obtained.

test.tex:
\documentclass[a4paper,xelatex,ja=standard]{bxjsarticle}

\usepackage{fontspec}
\setmainfont{Georgia}
\setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}

\title{テスト}
\begin{document}
\maketitle

\section{はじめに}

その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。

That person said, ``Hello, world!''

\end{document}

[image: xelatex test 2023-04-10 8.46.44.png]

Shigeru Kobayashi

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Re: Issues with Quotation Marks in Pandoc When Mixing Japanese and English Texts

[Bastien DUMONT]

Does marking the English text as such (with ["Hello world"]{lang=en}) solve your problem?

Le Sunday 09 April 2023 à 04:53:00PM, Shigeru Kobayashi a écrit :
> Dear Pandoc community,
> 
> I have encountered two issues regarding Pandoc's handling of quotation marks in
> cases where Japanese and English texts are mixed.
> 
> I am using Pandoc version 3.1.2 on macOS 12.6.3, and I can reproduce these
> issues. If these are indeed bugs, I am planning to submit them as issues on
> GitHub. However, I would appreciate any guidance if these issues arise from my
> incorrect usage.
> 
> Issue 1: Conversion of English phrases within Japanese text
> 
> I have observed the following issue. "input.md" is the input file, and
> "input.tex" is the output file.
> 
> $ pandoc input.md -o input.tex
> 
> input.md:
> その人は"Hello, world!"と言いました。
> 
> input.tex:
> その人は''Hello, world!{}``と言いました。
> 
> However, the conversion is correct when spaces are added before and after the
> double quotation marks.
> 
> input.md:
> その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。
> 
> input.tex:
> その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。
> 
> 
> Issue 2: The quotation marks are treated as Japanese text
> 
> When converting with Pandoc, the quotation marks are treated as Japanese text,
> resulting in an unnaturally wide gap. I have confirmed this using two files,
> "preamble.tex" and "input.md," and specifying as follows:
> 
> $ pandoc input.md -o input.pdf --pdf-engine=xelatex -H preamble.tex.
> 
> preamble.tex:
> \usepackage{fontspec}
> 
> \setmainfont{Georgia}
> \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
> 
> 
> input.md:
> ---
> documentclass: bxjsarticle
> classoption: pandoc
> papersize: a4
> fontsize: 10pt
> ---
> 
> # はじめに
> 
> その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。
> 
> That person said, "Hello, world!"
> 
> pandoc test 2023-04-10 8.47.43.png
> 
> In contrast, when I directly write the content in TeX and output it using $
> xelatex test.tex, the quotation marks are treated as English text, and the
> expected output is obtained.
> 
> test.tex:
> \documentclass[a4paper,xelatex,ja=standard]{bxjsarticle}
> 
> \usepackage{fontspec}
> \setmainfont{Georgia}
> \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
> 
> \title{テスト}
> \begin{document}
> \maketitle
> 
> \section{はじめに}
> 
> その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。
> 
> That person said, ``Hello, world!''
> 
> \end{document}
> 
> xelatex test 2023-04-10 8.46.44.png
> 
> Shigeru Kobayashi
> 
> 
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Re: Issues with Quotation Marks in Pandoc When Mixing Japanese and English Texts

[John MacFarlane]

I would recommend using unicode curly quotes in the markdown when you're working in a language without interword spacing. We rely on interword spacing for heuristics about smart quotes.

> On Apr 9, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Shigeru Kobayashi <mayfair-+k8b35VvZrR3+QwDJ9on6Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear Pandoc community,
> 
> I have encountered two issues regarding Pandoc's handling of quotation marks in cases where Japanese and English texts are mixed.
> 
> I am using Pandoc version 3.1.2 on macOS 12.6.3, and I can reproduce these issues. If these are indeed bugs, I am planning to submit them as issues on GitHub. However, I would appreciate any guidance if these issues arise from my incorrect usage.
> 
> Issue 1: Conversion of English phrases within Japanese text
> 
> I have observed the following issue. "input.md" is the input file, and "input.tex" is the output file.
> 
> $ pandoc input.md -o input.tex
> 
> input.md:
> その人は"Hello, world!"と言いました。
> 
> input.tex:
> その人は''Hello, world!{}``と言いました。
> 
> However, the conversion is correct when spaces are added before and after the double quotation marks.
> 
> input.md:
> その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。
> 
> input.tex:
> その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。
> 
> 
> Issue 2: The quotation marks are treated as Japanese text
> 
> When converting with Pandoc, the quotation marks are treated as Japanese text, resulting in an unnaturally wide gap. I have confirmed this using two files, "preamble.tex" and "input.md," and specifying as follows:
> 
> $ pandoc input.md -o input.pdf --pdf-engine=xelatex -H preamble.tex.
> 
> preamble.tex:
> \usepackage{fontspec}
> 
> \setmainfont{Georgia}
> \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
> 
> 
> input.md:
> ---
> documentclass: bxjsarticle
> classoption: pandoc
> papersize: a4
> fontsize: 10pt
> ---
> 
> # はじめに
> 
> その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。
> 
> That person said, "Hello, world!"
> 
> <pandoc test 2023-04-10 8.47.43.png>
> 
> In contrast, when I directly write the content in TeX and output it using $ xelatex test.tex, the quotation marks are treated as English text, and the expected output is obtained.
> 
> test.tex:
> \documentclass[a4paper,xelatex,ja=standard]{bxjsarticle}
> 
> \usepackage{fontspec}
> \setmainfont{Georgia}
> \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
> 
> \title{テスト}
> \begin{document}
> \maketitle
> 
> \section{はじめに}
> 
> その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。
> 
> That person said, ``Hello, world!''
> 
> \end{document}
> 
> <xelatex test 2023-04-10 8.46.44.png>
> 
> Shigeru Kobayashi
> 
> 
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Re: Issues with Quotation Marks in Pandoc When Mixing Japanese and English Texts

[Shigeru Kobayashi]

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Dear Bastien DUMONT and John MacFarlane,

Thank you very much for your reply.

Regarding issue 1, I will use Unicode curly quotes instead of strait quotes 
to avoid misinterpretation.

Regarding issue 2, I tried marking the English text as [That person said, 
"Hello, world!"]{lang=en}, but the result was the same (i.e., quotes are 
typeset with the Japanese font instead of the English font). I also tried 
Unicode curly quotes.

I have confirmed that "pandoc input.md -t input.tex" generates a code as 
expected as follows:
\foreignlanguage{english}{That person said, ``Hello, world!''}

Therefore, this is puzzling to me...


Best regards,
Shigeru KOBAYASHI


On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 2:34:40 AM UTC+9 John MacFarlane wrote:

> I would recommend using unicode curly quotes in the markdown when you're 
> working in a language without interword spacing. We rely on interword 
> spacing for heuristics about smart quotes.
>
> > On Apr 9, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Shigeru Kobayashi <may...-+k8b35VvZrR3+QwDJ9on6Q@public.gmane.org> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > Dear Pandoc community,
> > 
> > I have encountered two issues regarding Pandoc's handling of quotation 
> marks in cases where Japanese and English texts are mixed.
> > 
> > I am using Pandoc version 3.1.2 on macOS 12.6.3, and I can reproduce 
> these issues. If these are indeed bugs, I am planning to submit them as 
> issues on GitHub. However, I would appreciate any guidance if these issues 
> arise from my incorrect usage.
> > 
> > Issue 1: Conversion of English phrases within Japanese text
> > 
> > I have observed the following issue. "input.md" is the input file, and 
> "input.tex" is the output file.
> > 
> > $ pandoc input.md -o input.tex
> > 
> > input.md:
> > その人は"Hello, world!"と言いました。
> > 
> > input.tex:
> > その人は''Hello, world!{}``と言いました。
> > 
> > However, the conversion is correct when spaces are added before and 
> after the double quotation marks.
> > 
> > input.md:
> > その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。
> > 
> > input.tex:
> > その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。
> > 
> > 
> > Issue 2: The quotation marks are treated as Japanese text
> > 
> > When converting with Pandoc, the quotation marks are treated as Japanese 
> text, resulting in an unnaturally wide gap. I have confirmed this using two 
> files, "preamble.tex" and "input.md," and specifying as follows:
> > 
> > $ pandoc input.md -o input.pdf --pdf-engine=xelatex -H preamble.tex.
> > 
> > preamble.tex:
> > \usepackage{fontspec}
> > 
> > \setmainfont{Georgia}
> > \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
> > 
> > 
> > input.md:
> > ---
> > documentclass: bxjsarticle
> > classoption: pandoc
> > papersize: a4
> > fontsize: 10pt
> > ---
> > 
> > # はじめに
> > 
> > その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。
> > 
> > That person said, "Hello, world!"
> > 
> > <pandoc test 2023-04-10 8.47.43.png>
> > 
> > In contrast, when I directly write the content in TeX and output it 
> using $ xelatex test.tex, the quotation marks are treated as English text, 
> and the expected output is obtained.
> > 
> > test.tex:
> > \documentclass[a4paper,xelatex,ja=standard]{bxjsarticle}
> > 
> > \usepackage{fontspec}
> > \setmainfont{Georgia}
> > \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
> > 
> > \title{テスト}
> > \begin{document}
> > \maketitle
> > 
> > \section{はじめに}
> > 
> > その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。
> > 
> > That person said, ``Hello, world!''
> > 
> > \end{document}
> > 
> > <xelatex test 2023-04-10 8.46.44.png>
> > 
> > Shigeru Kobayashi
> > 
> > 
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Re: Issues with Quotation Marks in Pandoc When Mixing Japanese and English Texts

[Bastien DUMONT]

An if you put the English parts in language spans as I said and add in header-includes \babelfont[english]{rm}{Georgia}?

Le Monday 10 April 2023 à 04:30:37PM, Shigeru Kobayashi a écrit :
> Dear Bastien DUMONT and John MacFarlane,
> 
> Thank you very much for your reply.
> 
> Regarding issue 1, I will use Unicode curly quotes instead of strait quotes to
> avoid misinterpretation.
> 
> Regarding issue 2, I tried marking the English text as [That person said,
> "Hello, world!"]{lang=en}, but the result was the same (i.e., quotes are
> typeset with the Japanese font instead of the English font). I also tried
> Unicode curly quotes.
> 
> I have confirmed that "pandoc input.md -t input.tex" generates a code as
> expected as follows:
> \foreignlanguage{english}{That person said, ``Hello, world!''}
> 
> Therefore, this is puzzling to me...
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Shigeru KOBAYASHI
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 2:34:40 AM UTC+9 John MacFarlane wrote:
> 
>     I would recommend using unicode curly quotes in the markdown when you're
>     working in a language without interword spacing. We rely on interword
>     spacing for heuristics about smart quotes.
> 
>     > On Apr 9, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Shigeru Kobayashi <may...-+k8b35VvZrR3+QwDJ9on6Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>     >
>     > Dear Pandoc community,
>     >
>     > I have encountered two issues regarding Pandoc's handling of quotation
>     marks in cases where Japanese and English texts are mixed.
>     >
>     > I am using Pandoc version 3.1.2 on macOS 12.6.3, and I can reproduce
>     these issues. If these are indeed bugs, I am planning to submit them as
>     issues on GitHub. However, I would appreciate any guidance if these issues
>     arise from my incorrect usage.
>     >
>     > Issue 1: Conversion of English phrases within Japanese text
>     >
>     > I have observed the following issue. "input.md" is the input file, and
>     "input.tex" is the output file.
>     >
>     > $ pandoc input.md -o input.tex
>     >
>     > input.md:
>     > その人は"Hello, world!"と言いました。
>     >
>     > input.tex:
>     > その人は''Hello, world!{}``と言いました。
>     >
>     > However, the conversion is correct when spaces are added before and after
>     the double quotation marks.
>     >
>     > input.md:
>     > その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。
>     >
>     > input.tex:
>     > その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。
>     >
>     >
>     > Issue 2: The quotation marks are treated as Japanese text
>     >
>     > When converting with Pandoc, the quotation marks are treated as Japanese
>     text, resulting in an unnaturally wide gap. I have confirmed this using two
>     files, "preamble.tex" and "input.md," and specifying as follows:
>     >
>     > $ pandoc input.md -o input.pdf --pdf-engine=xelatex -H preamble.tex.
>     >
>     > preamble.tex:
>     > \usepackage{fontspec}
>     >
>     > \setmainfont{Georgia}
>     > \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
>     >
>     >
>     > input.md:
>     > ---
>     > documentclass: bxjsarticle
>     > classoption: pandoc
>     > papersize: a4
>     > fontsize: 10pt
>     > ---
>     >
>     > # はじめに
>     >
>     > その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。
>     >
>     > That person said, "Hello, world!"
>     >
>     > <pandoc test 2023-04-10 8.47.43.png>
>     >
>     > In contrast, when I directly write the content in TeX and output it using
>     $ xelatex test.tex, the quotation marks are treated as English text, and
>     the expected output is obtained.
>     >
>     > test.tex:
>     > \documentclass[a4paper,xelatex,ja=standard]{bxjsarticle}
>     >
>     > \usepackage{fontspec}
>     > \setmainfont{Georgia}
>     > \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
>     >
>     > \title{テスト}
>     > \begin{document}
>     > \maketitle
>     >
>     > \section{はじめに}
>     >
>     > その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。
>     >
>     > That person said, ``Hello, world!''
>     >
>     > \end{document}
>     >
>     > <xelatex test 2023-04-10 8.46.44.png>
>     >
>     > Shigeru Kobayashi
>     >
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Re: Issues with Quotation Marks in Pandoc When Mixing Japanese and English Texts

[Shigeru Kobayashi]

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Dear Bastien DUMONT,

Thank you very much for your reply. I tried as follows and got no changes. 
I'm sorry if I misunderstood your suggestion.

*preamble.tex:*
\usepackage{fontspec}
\setmainfont{Georgia}
\setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
\babelfont[english]{rm}{Georgia}

*input.md:*
---
documentclass: bxjsarticle
classoption: pandoc
papersize: a4
---

[That person said, "Hello, world!"]{lang=en}

*shell:*
$ pandoc -V lang=ja input.md -o input.pdf --pdf-engine=xelatex -V pandoc -H 
preamble.tex



On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 2:32:57 PM UTC+9 Bastien DUMONT wrote:

> An if you put the English parts in language spans as I said and add in 
> header-includes \babelfont[english]{rm}{Georgia}?
>
> Le Monday 10 April 2023 à 04:30:37PM, Shigeru Kobayashi a écrit :
> > Dear Bastien DUMONT and John MacFarlane,
> > 
> > Thank you very much for your reply.
> > 
> > Regarding issue 1, I will use Unicode curly quotes instead of strait 
> quotes to
> > avoid misinterpretation.
> > 
> > Regarding issue 2, I tried marking the English text as [That person said,
> > "Hello, world!"]{lang=en}, but the result was the same (i.e., quotes are
> > typeset with the Japanese font instead of the English font). I also tried
> > Unicode curly quotes.
> > 
> > I have confirmed that "pandoc input.md -t input.tex" generates a code as
> > expected as follows:
> > \foreignlanguage{english}{That person said, ``Hello, world!''}
> > 
> > Therefore, this is puzzling to me...
> > 
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Shigeru KOBAYASHI
> > 
> > 
> > On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 2:34:40 AM UTC+9 John MacFarlane wrote:
> > 
> > I would recommend using unicode curly quotes in the markdown when you're
> > working in a language without interword spacing. We rely on interword
> > spacing for heuristics about smart quotes.
> > 
> > > On Apr 9, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Shigeru Kobayashi <may...-+k8b35VvZrR3+QwDJ9on6Q@public.gmane.org> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Pandoc community,
> > >
> > > I have encountered two issues regarding Pandoc's handling of quotation
> > marks in cases where Japanese and English texts are mixed.
> > >
> > > I am using Pandoc version 3.1.2 on macOS 12.6.3, and I can reproduce
> > these issues. If these are indeed bugs, I am planning to submit them as
> > issues on GitHub. However, I would appreciate any guidance if these 
> issues
> > arise from my incorrect usage.
> > >
> > > Issue 1: Conversion of English phrases within Japanese text
> > >
> > > I have observed the following issue. "input.md" is the input file, and
> > "input.tex" is the output file.
> > >
> > > $ pandoc input.md -o input.tex
> > >
> > > input.md:
> > > その人は"Hello, world!"と言いました。
> > >
> > > input.tex:
> > > その人は''Hello, world!{}``と言いました。
> > >
> > > However, the conversion is correct when spaces are added before and 
> after
> > the double quotation marks.
> > >
> > > input.md:
> > > その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。
> > >
> > > input.tex:
> > > その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。
> > >
> > >
> > > Issue 2: The quotation marks are treated as Japanese text
> > >
> > > When converting with Pandoc, the quotation marks are treated as 
> Japanese
> > text, resulting in an unnaturally wide gap. I have confirmed this using 
> two
> > files, "preamble.tex" and "input.md," and specifying as follows:
> > >
> > > $ pandoc input.md -o input.pdf --pdf-engine=xelatex -H preamble.tex.
> > >
> > > preamble.tex:
> > > \usepackage{fontspec}
> > >
> > > \setmainfont{Georgia}
> > > \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
> > >
> > >
> > > input.md:
> > > ---
> > > documentclass: bxjsarticle
> > > classoption: pandoc
> > > papersize: a4
> > > fontsize: 10pt
> > > ---
> > >
> > > # はじめに
> > >
> > > その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。
> > >
> > > That person said, "Hello, world!"
> > >
> > > <pandoc test 2023-04-10 8.47.43.png>
> > >
> > > In contrast, when I directly write the content in TeX and output it 
> using
> > $ xelatex test.tex, the quotation marks are treated as English text, and
> > the expected output is obtained.
> > >
> > > test.tex:
> > > \documentclass[a4paper,xelatex,ja=standard]{bxjsarticle}
> > >
> > > \usepackage{fontspec}
> > > \setmainfont{Georgia}
> > > \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
> > >
> > > \title{テスト}
> > > \begin{document}
> > > \maketitle
> > >
> > > \section{はじめに}
> > >
> > > その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。
> > >
> > > That person said, ``Hello, world!''
> > >
> > > \end{document}
> > >
> > > <xelatex test 2023-04-10 8.46.44.png>
> > >
> > > Shigeru Kobayashi
> > >
> > >
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Re: Issues with Quotation Marks in Pandoc When Mixing Japanese and English Texts

[BPJ]

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Den tis 11 apr. 2023 07:53Shigeru Kobayashi <mayfair-+k8b35VvZrR3+QwDJ9on6Q@public.gmane.org> skrev:

> Dear Bastien DUMONT,
>
> Thank you very much for your reply. I tried as follows and got no changes.
> I'm sorry if I misunderstood your suggestion.
>
> *preamble.tex:*
> \usepackage{fontspec}
> \setmainfont{Georgia}
> \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
> \babelfont[english]{rm}{Georgia}
>
> *input.md:*
> ---
> documentclass: bxjsarticle
> classoption: pandoc
> papersize: a4
> ---
>
> [That person said, "Hello, world!"]{lang=en}
>

And if you use Unicode curly quotes inside the span?

If all else fails use Unicode curly quotes throughout and try this in the
preamble:

\newfontfamily{\GeorgiaFont}{Georgia}
\usepackage{newunicodechar}
\newunicodechar{‘}{{\GeorgiaFont ‘}}
\newunicodechar{’}{{\GeorgiaFont ’}}
\newunicodechar{“}{{\GeorgiaFont “}}
\newunicodechar{”}{{\GeorgiaFont ”}}

Inspect the LaTeX output by pandoc and make sure you get curly quotes in
the LaTeX source, otherwise experiment with the +smart/-smart extension on
input and output format till you get curly quotes in the LaTeX source.





> *shell:*
> $ pandoc -V lang=ja input.md -o input.pdf --pdf-engine=xelatex -V pandoc
> -H preamble.tex
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 2:32:57 PM UTC+9 Bastien DUMONT wrote:
>
>> An if you put the English parts in language spans as I said and add in
>> header-includes \babelfont[english]{rm}{Georgia}?
>>
>> Le Monday 10 April 2023 à 04:30:37PM, Shigeru Kobayashi a écrit :
>> > Dear Bastien DUMONT and John MacFarlane,
>> >
>> > Thank you very much for your reply.
>> >
>> > Regarding issue 1, I will use Unicode curly quotes instead of strait
>> quotes to
>> > avoid misinterpretation.
>> >
>> > Regarding issue 2, I tried marking the English text as [That person
>> said,
>> > "Hello, world!"]{lang=en}, but the result was the same (i.e., quotes
>> are
>> > typeset with the Japanese font instead of the English font). I also
>> tried
>> > Unicode curly quotes.
>> >
>> > I have confirmed that "pandoc input.md -t input.tex" generates a code
>> as
>> > expected as follows:
>> > \foreignlanguage{english}{That person said, ``Hello, world!''}
>> >
>> > Therefore, this is puzzling to me...
>> >
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Shigeru KOBAYASHI
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 2:34:40 AM UTC+9 John MacFarlane wrote:
>> >
>> > I would recommend using unicode curly quotes in the markdown when
>> you're
>> > working in a language without interword spacing. We rely on interword
>> > spacing for heuristics about smart quotes.
>> >
>> > > On Apr 9, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Shigeru Kobayashi <may...-+k8b35VvZrR3+QwDJ9on6Q@public.gmane.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Dear Pandoc community,
>> > >
>> > > I have encountered two issues regarding Pandoc's handling of
>> quotation
>> > marks in cases where Japanese and English texts are mixed.
>> > >
>> > > I am using Pandoc version 3.1.2 on macOS 12.6.3, and I can reproduce
>> > these issues. If these are indeed bugs, I am planning to submit them as
>> > issues on GitHub. However, I would appreciate any guidance if these
>> issues
>> > arise from my incorrect usage.
>> > >
>> > > Issue 1: Conversion of English phrases within Japanese text
>> > >
>> > > I have observed the following issue. "input.md" is the input file,
>> and
>> > "input.tex" is the output file.
>> > >
>> > > $ pandoc input.md -o input.tex
>> > >
>> > > input.md:
>> > > その人は"Hello, world!"と言いました。
>> > >
>> > > input.tex:
>> > > その人は''Hello, world!{}``と言いました。
>> > >
>> > > However, the conversion is correct when spaces are added before and
>> after
>> > the double quotation marks.
>> > >
>> > > input.md:
>> > > その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。
>> > >
>> > > input.tex:
>> > > その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Issue 2: The quotation marks are treated as Japanese text
>> > >
>> > > When converting with Pandoc, the quotation marks are treated as
>> Japanese
>> > text, resulting in an unnaturally wide gap. I have confirmed this using
>> two
>> > files, "preamble.tex" and "input.md," and specifying as follows:
>> > >
>> > > $ pandoc input.md -o input.pdf --pdf-engine=xelatex -H preamble.tex.
>> > >
>> > > preamble.tex:
>> > > \usepackage{fontspec}
>> > >
>> > > \setmainfont{Georgia}
>> > > \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > input.md:
>> > > ---
>> > > documentclass: bxjsarticle
>> > > classoption: pandoc
>> > > papersize: a4
>> > > fontsize: 10pt
>> > > ---
>> > >
>> > > # はじめに
>> > >
>> > > その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。
>> > >
>> > > That person said, "Hello, world!"
>> > >
>> > > <pandoc test 2023-04-10 8.47.43.png>
>> > >
>> > > In contrast, when I directly write the content in TeX and output it
>> using
>> > $ xelatex test.tex, the quotation marks are treated as English text,
>> and
>> > the expected output is obtained.
>> > >
>> > > test.tex:
>> > > \documentclass[a4paper,xelatex,ja=standard]{bxjsarticle}
>> > >
>> > > \usepackage{fontspec}
>> > > \setmainfont{Georgia}
>> > > \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
>> > >
>> > > \title{テスト}
>> > > \begin{document}
>> > > \maketitle
>> > >
>> > > \section{はじめに}
>> > >
>> > > その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。
>> > >
>> > > That person said, ``Hello, world!''
>> > >
>> > > \end{document}
>> > >
>> > > <xelatex test 2023-04-10 8.46.44.png>
>> > >
>> > > Shigeru Kobayashi
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > > <xelatex test 2023-04-10 8.46.44.png><pandoc test 2023-04-10
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Re: Issues with Quotation Marks in Pandoc When Mixing Japanese and English Texts

[Shigeru Kobayashi]

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Dear Bastien DUMONT,

Thank you very much for your suggestions.

> And if you use Unicode curly quotes inside the span?

I tried this version, but unfortunately, there was no change in the output 
PDF (i.e., the Japanese font is used for the curly quotes).


> If all else fails use Unicode curly quotes throughout and try this in the 
preamble:
> 
> \newfontfamily{\GeorgiaFont}{Georgia}
> \usepackage{newunicodechar}
> \newunicodechar{‘}{{\GeorgiaFont ‘}}
> \newunicodechar{’}{{\GeorgiaFont ’}}
> \newunicodechar{“}{{\GeorgiaFont “}}
> \newunicodechar{”}{{\GeorgiaFont ”}}

I tried this as well, but unfortunately, there was no change in the output 
PDF.

Initially, I suspected it was something in bxjsarticle that I had set in 
documentclass. However, this problem does not occur when I output PDF with 
xelatex from an equivalent source, rather than converting from Pandoc to 
TeX.

I will investigate this a bit further.


Best,
Shigeru


On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 7:01:45 AM UTC+9 BPJ wrote:



Den tis 11 apr. 2023 07:53Shigeru Kobayashi <may...-+k8b35VvZrR3+QwDJ9on6Q@public.gmane.org> skrev:

Dear Bastien DUMONT,

Thank you very much for your reply. I tried as follows and got no changes. 
I'm sorry if I misunderstood your suggestion.

*preamble.tex:*
\usepackage{fontspec}
\setmainfont{Georgia}
\setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
\babelfont[english]{rm}{Georgia}

*input.md:*
---
documentclass: bxjsarticle
classoption: pandoc
papersize: a4
---

[That person said, "Hello, world!"]{lang=en}


And if you use Unicode curly quotes inside the span?

If all else fails use Unicode curly quotes throughout and try this in the 
preamble:

\newfontfamily{\GeorgiaFont}{Georgia}
\usepackage{newunicodechar}
\newunicodechar{‘}{{\GeorgiaFont ‘}}
\newunicodechar{’}{{\GeorgiaFont ’}}
\newunicodechar{“}{{\GeorgiaFont “}}
\newunicodechar{”}{{\GeorgiaFont ”}}

Inspect the LaTeX output by pandoc and make sure you get curly quotes in 
the LaTeX source, otherwise experiment with the +smart/-smart extension on 
input and output format till you get curly quotes in the LaTeX source.





*shell:*
$ pandoc -V lang=ja input.md -o input.pdf --pdf-engine=xelatex -V pandoc -H 
preamble.tex



On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 2:32:57 PM UTC+9 Bastien DUMONT wrote:

An if you put the English parts in language spans as I said and add in 
header-includes \babelfont[english]{rm}{Georgia}? 

Le Monday 10 April 2023 à 04:30:37PM, Shigeru Kobayashi a écrit : 
> Dear Bastien DUMONT and John MacFarlane, 
> 
> Thank you very much for your reply. 
> 
> Regarding issue 1, I will use Unicode curly quotes instead of strait 
quotes to 
> avoid misinterpretation. 
> 
> Regarding issue 2, I tried marking the English text as [That person said, 
> "Hello, world!"]{lang=en}, but the result was the same (i.e., quotes are 
> typeset with the Japanese font instead of the English font). I also tried 
> Unicode curly quotes. 
> 
> I have confirmed that "pandoc input.md -t input.tex" generates a code as 
> expected as follows: 
> \foreignlanguage{english}{That person said, ``Hello, world!''} 
> 
> Therefore, this is puzzling to me... 
> 
> 
> Best regards, 
> Shigeru KOBAYASHI 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 2:34:40 AM UTC+9 John MacFarlane wrote: 
> 
> I would recommend using unicode curly quotes in the markdown when you're 
> working in a language without interword spacing. We rely on interword 
> spacing for heuristics about smart quotes. 
> 
> > On Apr 9, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Shigeru Kobayashi <may...-+k8b35VvZrR3+QwDJ9on6Q@public.gmane.org> 
wrote: 
> > 
> > Dear Pandoc community, 
> > 
> > I have encountered two issues regarding Pandoc's handling of quotation 
> marks in cases where Japanese and English texts are mixed. 
> > 
> > I am using Pandoc version 3.1.2 on macOS 12.6.3, and I can reproduce 
> these issues. If these are indeed bugs, I am planning to submit them as 
> issues on GitHub. However, I would appreciate any guidance if these 
issues 
> arise from my incorrect usage. 
> > 
> > Issue 1: Conversion of English phrases within Japanese text 
> > 
> > I have observed the following issue. "input.md" is the input file, and 
> "input.tex" is the output file. 
> > 
> > $ pandoc input.md -o input.tex 
> > 
> > input.md: 
> > その人は"Hello, world!"と言いました。 
> > 
> > input.tex: 
> > その人は''Hello, world!{}``と言いました。 
> > 
> > However, the conversion is correct when spaces are added before and 
after 
> the double quotation marks. 
> > 
> > input.md: 
> > その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。 
> > 
> > input.tex: 
> > その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。 
> > 
> > 
> > Issue 2: The quotation marks are treated as Japanese text 
> > 
> > When converting with Pandoc, the quotation marks are treated as 
Japanese 
> text, resulting in an unnaturally wide gap. I have confirmed this using 
two 
> files, "preamble.tex" and "input.md," and specifying as follows: 
> > 
> > $ pandoc input.md -o input.pdf --pdf-engine=xelatex -H preamble.tex. 
> > 
> > preamble.tex: 
> > \usepackage{fontspec} 
> > 
> > \setmainfont{Georgia} 
> > \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium} 
> > 
> > 
> > input.md: 
> > --- 
> > documentclass: bxjsarticle 
> > classoption: pandoc 
> > papersize: a4 
> > fontsize: 10pt 
> > --- 
> > 
> > # はじめに 
> > 
> > その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。 
> > 
> > That person said, "Hello, world!" 
> > 
> > <pandoc test 2023-04-10 8.47.43.png> 
> > 
> > In contrast, when I directly write the content in TeX and output it 
using 
> $ xelatex test.tex, the quotation marks are treated as English text, and 
> the expected output is obtained. 
> > 
> > test.tex: 
> > \documentclass[a4paper,xelatex,ja=standard]{bxjsarticle} 
> > 
> > \usepackage{fontspec} 
> > \setmainfont{Georgia} 
> > \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium} 
> > 
> > \title{テスト} 
> > \begin{document} 
> > \maketitle 
> > 
> > \section{はじめに} 
> > 
> > その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。 
> > 
> > That person said, ``Hello, world!'' 
> > 
> > \end{document} 
> > 
> > <xelatex test 2023-04-10 8.46.44.png> 
> > 
> > Shigeru Kobayashi 
> > 
> > 
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Re: Issues with Quotation Marks in Pandoc When Mixing Japanese and English Texts

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Have you looked at the LaTeX produced by pandoc.

Den ons 12 apr. 2023 00:31Shigeru Kobayashi <mayfair-+k8b35VvZrR3+QwDJ9on6Q@public.gmane.org> skrev:

> Dear Bastien DUMONT,
>
> Thank you very much for your suggestions.
>
> > And if you use Unicode curly quotes inside the span?
>
> I tried this version, but unfortunately, there was no change in the output
> PDF (i.e., the Japanese font is used for the curly quotes).
>
>
> > If all else fails use Unicode curly quotes throughout and try this in
> the preamble:
> >
> > \newfontfamily{\GeorgiaFont}{Georgia}
> > \usepackage{newunicodechar}
> > \newunicodechar{‘}{{\GeorgiaFont ‘}}
> > \newunicodechar{’}{{\GeorgiaFont ’}}
> > \newunicodechar{“}{{\GeorgiaFont “}}
> > \newunicodechar{”}{{\GeorgiaFont ”}}
>
> I tried this as well, but unfortunately, there was no change in the output
> PDF.
>
> Initially, I suspected it was something in bxjsarticle that I had set in
> documentclass. However, this problem does not occur when I output PDF with
> xelatex from an equivalent source, rather than converting from Pandoc to
> TeX.
>
> I will investigate this a bit further.
>
>
> Best,
> Shigeru
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 7:01:45 AM UTC+9 BPJ wrote:
>
>
>
> Den tis 11 apr. 2023 07:53Shigeru Kobayashi <may...-+k8b35VvZrR3+QwDJ9on6Q@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>
> Dear Bastien DUMONT,
>
> Thank you very much for your reply. I tried as follows and got no changes.
> I'm sorry if I misunderstood your suggestion.
>
> *preamble.tex:*
> \usepackage{fontspec}
> \setmainfont{Georgia}
> \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
> \babelfont[english]{rm}{Georgia}
>
> *input.md:*
> ---
> documentclass: bxjsarticle
> classoption: pandoc
> papersize: a4
> ---
>
> [That person said, "Hello, world!"]{lang=en}
>
>
> And if you use Unicode curly quotes inside the span?
>
> If all else fails use Unicode curly quotes throughout and try this in the
> preamble:
>
> \newfontfamily{\GeorgiaFont}{Georgia}
> \usepackage{newunicodechar}
> \newunicodechar{‘}{{\GeorgiaFont ‘}}
> \newunicodechar{’}{{\GeorgiaFont ’}}
> \newunicodechar{“}{{\GeorgiaFont “}}
> \newunicodechar{”}{{\GeorgiaFont ”}}
>
> Inspect the LaTeX output by pandoc and make sure you get curly quotes in
> the LaTeX source, otherwise experiment with the +smart/-smart extension on
> input and output format till you get curly quotes in the LaTeX source.
>
>
>
>
>
> *shell:*
> $ pandoc -V lang=ja input.md -o input.pdf --pdf-engine=xelatex -V pandoc
> -H preamble.tex
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 2:32:57 PM UTC+9 Bastien DUMONT wrote:
>
> An if you put the English parts in language spans as I said and add in
> header-includes \babelfont[english]{rm}{Georgia}?
>
> Le Monday 10 April 2023 à 04:30:37PM, Shigeru Kobayashi a écrit :
> > Dear Bastien DUMONT and John MacFarlane,
> >
> > Thank you very much for your reply.
> >
> > Regarding issue 1, I will use Unicode curly quotes instead of strait
> quotes to
> > avoid misinterpretation.
> >
> > Regarding issue 2, I tried marking the English text as [That person
> said,
> > "Hello, world!"]{lang=en}, but the result was the same (i.e., quotes are
> > typeset with the Japanese font instead of the English font). I also
> tried
> > Unicode curly quotes.
> >
> > I have confirmed that "pandoc input.md -t input.tex" generates a code as
> > expected as follows:
> > \foreignlanguage{english}{That person said, ``Hello, world!''}
> >
> > Therefore, this is puzzling to me...
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Shigeru KOBAYASHI
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 2:34:40 AM UTC+9 John MacFarlane wrote:
> >
> > I would recommend using unicode curly quotes in the markdown when you're
> > working in a language without interword spacing. We rely on interword
> > spacing for heuristics about smart quotes.
> >
> > > On Apr 9, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Shigeru Kobayashi <may...-+k8b35VvZrR3+QwDJ9on6Q@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Pandoc community,
> > >
> > > I have encountered two issues regarding Pandoc's handling of quotation
> > marks in cases where Japanese and English texts are mixed.
> > >
> > > I am using Pandoc version 3.1.2 on macOS 12.6.3, and I can reproduce
> > these issues. If these are indeed bugs, I am planning to submit them as
> > issues on GitHub. However, I would appreciate any guidance if these
> issues
> > arise from my incorrect usage.
> > >
> > > Issue 1: Conversion of English phrases within Japanese text
> > >
> > > I have observed the following issue. "input.md" is the input file, and
> > "input.tex" is the output file.
> > >
> > > $ pandoc input.md -o input.tex
> > >
> > > input.md:
> > > その人は"Hello, world!"と言いました。
> > >
> > > input.tex:
> > > その人は''Hello, world!{}``と言いました。
> > >
> > > However, the conversion is correct when spaces are added before and
> after
> > the double quotation marks.
> > >
> > > input.md:
> > > その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。
> > >
> > > input.tex:
> > > その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。
> > >
> > >
> > > Issue 2: The quotation marks are treated as Japanese text
> > >
> > > When converting with Pandoc, the quotation marks are treated as
> Japanese
> > text, resulting in an unnaturally wide gap. I have confirmed this using
> two
> > files, "preamble.tex" and "input.md," and specifying as follows:
> > >
> > > $ pandoc input.md -o input.pdf --pdf-engine=xelatex -H preamble.tex.
> > >
> > > preamble.tex:
> > > \usepackage{fontspec}
> > >
> > > \setmainfont{Georgia}
> > > \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
> > >
> > >
> > > input.md:
> > > ---
> > > documentclass: bxjsarticle
> > > classoption: pandoc
> > > papersize: a4
> > > fontsize: 10pt
> > > ---
> > >
> > > # はじめに
> > >
> > > その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。
> > >
> > > That person said, "Hello, world!"
> > >
> > > <pandoc test 2023-04-10 8.47.43.png>
> > >
> > > In contrast, when I directly write the content in TeX and output it
> using
> > $ xelatex test.tex, the quotation marks are treated as English text, and
> > the expected output is obtained.
> > >
> > > test.tex:
> > > \documentclass[a4paper,xelatex,ja=standard]{bxjsarticle}
> > >
> > > \usepackage{fontspec}
> > > \setmainfont{Georgia}
> > > \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
> > >
> > > \title{テスト}
> > > \begin{document}
> > > \maketitle
> > >
> > > \section{はじめに}
> > >
> > > その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。
> > >
> > > That person said, ``Hello, world!''
> > >
> > > \end{document}
> > >
> > > <xelatex test 2023-04-10 8.46.44.png>
> > >
> > > Shigeru Kobayashi
> > >
> > >
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