Thematic breaks

Thematic breaks

[Denis Maier]

Hi,

I think currently there is no way to indicate thought breaks between 
paragraphs other than horizontal rules. (Am I missing something?)

The (PDF) output should be like this:

A document uses first line indents for paragraphs. Thematic breaks that 
do not warrant a new section are indicated by a blank link with the next 
paragraph not being indented.

Any opinions about this? Ideas, hints?

Best,
Denis

Re: Thematic breaks

[BPJ]

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Den tors 17 sep. 2020 19:35Denis Maier <denis.maier.lists-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
skrev:

> Hi,
>
> I think currently there is no way to indicate thought breaks between
> paragraphs other than horizontal rules. (Am I missing something?)
>
> The (PDF) output should be like this:
>
> A document uses first line indents for paragraphs. Thematic breaks that
> do not warrant a new section are indicated by a blank link with the next
> paragraph not being indented.
>
> Any opinions about this? Ideas, hints?
>

For which output format?

For HTML you could wrap paragraphs which should not be indented in a div
with a class, style paragraphs so that they are indented (how?), then in a
latter rule style paragraphs inside such a div without indent. For DOCX you
can also use a div with a custom-style which you define so that there is no
indent while you define the normal paragraph style so that it is indented.

For TeX-ish formats you can just type `\noindent ` at the start of the
paragraph. Pandoc will ignore it when writing non-TeX formats.

HTH,

/bpj


> Best,
> Denis
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Re: Thematic breaks

[Denis Maier]

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Am 17.09.2020 um 19:52 schrieb BPJ:
> Den tors 17 sep. 2020 19:35Denis Maier <denis.maier.lists-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org 
> <mailto:denis.maier.lists-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>> skrev:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I think currently there is no way to indicate thought breaks between
>     paragraphs other than horizontal rules. (Am I missing something?)
>
>     The (PDF) output should be like this:
>
>     A document uses first line indents for paragraphs. Thematic breaks
>     that
>     do not warrant a new section are indicated by a blank link with
>     the next
>     paragraph not being indented.
>
>     Any opinions about this? Ideas, hints?
>
>
> For which output format?

Ideally there would be a generic way that would work for every format, 
or that would be extensible.

Currently, I produce JATS XML that gets typeset with ConTeXt. I can add 
instructions like these `<?context-directiveinjectorblank?>`{=jats} This 
ends up in the XML and ConTeXt picks it up. (I think JATS has no generic 
support for this. Maybe via attributes on the paragraphs.) Anyway, I 
think a real pandoc solution that could work across formats would be 
awesome.

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Re: Thematic breaks

[BPJ]

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Den tors 17 sep. 2020 21:28Denis Maier <denis.maier.lists-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
skrev:

> Am 17.09.2020 um 19:52 schrieb BPJ:
>
> Den tors 17 sep. 2020 19:35Denis Maier <denis.maier.lists-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
> skrev:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think currently there is no way to indicate thought breaks between
>> paragraphs other than horizontal rules. (Am I missing something?)
>>
>> The (PDF) output should be like this:
>>
>> A document uses first line indents for paragraphs. Thematic breaks that
>> do not warrant a new section are indicated by a blank link with the next
>> paragraph not being indented.
>>
>> Any opinions about this? Ideas, hints?
>>
>
> For which output format?
>
>
> Ideally there would be a generic way that would work for every format, or
> that would be extensible.
>
> Currently, I produce JATS XML that gets typeset with ConTeXt. I can add
> instructions like these `<?context-directive injector blank?>`{=jats}
> This ends up in the XML and ConTeXt picks it up. (I think JATS has no
> generic support for this. Maybe via attributes on the paragraphs.)
>

You might make that a little less verbose by using an abbreviation in a
code span, `` `cd:ib` `` say, or even `` `§` `` or some other suitable
character and expand it to the real thing with a filter. I do that all the
time since before Pandoc had spans, and if I need an actual code span with
a "magic" string inside I just add a class `.code` to it. Something like

``````lua
local directives = { ib = 'injector blank', ... }

local cdf = "<?context-directive %s?>"

function Code (code)
  if code.classes:includes('code') then return nil end
  local key = code.text:match('^cd%:(%w+)$')
  if not key then return nil end
  local cd = assert(directives[key], "Unknown directive abbreviation: " ..
key)
  return pandoc.RawInline( 'jats', cdf:format(cs) )
end
``````

except that my filter injects LaTeX and is written in (nice) MoonScript
which is less verbose and compiles into (unfortunately ugly) Lua code. It
also reads in the table from a file in a simple `key: value`  per line
format (which happens to also be valid YAML).


Anyway, I think a real pandoc solution that could work across formats would
> be awesome.
>

It would. Unfortunately we run the risk of yet another endless debate over
the syntax...

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