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[2a00:1450:4864:20::62a]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p15-20020a2eb98f000000b0025a8d717b7dsi8448ljp.5.2022.06.23.12.11.58 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Jun 2022 12:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::62a as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::62a; Original-Received: by mail-ej1-x62a.google.com with SMTP id t5so231137eje.1 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2022 12:11:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:7952:b0:711:d4e0:da23 with SMTP id l18-20020a170906795200b00711d4e0da23mr9715049ejo.305.1656011517505; Thu, 23 Jun 2022 12:11:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <377aa06e-714c-ba4a-5445-dc9d518b95ab-Jdbf3xiKgS8@public.gmane.org> X-Original-Sender: melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=lmDXJaFQ; spf=pass (google.com: domain of melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::62a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.text.pandoc:30817 Archived-At: --0000000000003eb2e805e2223a43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" +1 Den tors 23 juni 2022 15:20Daniel Staal skrev: > On 6/23/22 2:21 AM, John MacFarlane wrote: > > This is a bit tricky. escaped_line_breaks isn't really an > > extension for commonmark, because it is part of the core spec. > > The writer uses two spaces instead; both are supported according > > to the spec, and the writer has to make a choice. > > As an aside, that particular choice always is a bit touchy to me - while > it *looks* nice, many text editors (including BBEdit, my preferred) will > automatically strip whitespace at the end of a line. 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Den tors 23 juni 2022 15:20Daniel Staal <DStaal-Jdbf3xiKgS8@public.gmane.org> skrev:
On 6/23/22 2:21 AM, John MacFarlane wrote:
> This is a bit tricky.=C2=A0 escaped_line_breaks isn't really an > extension for commonmark, because it is part of the core spec.
> The writer uses two spaces instead; both are supported according
> to the spec, and the writer has to make a choice.

As an aside, that particular choice always is a bit touchy to me - while it *looks* nice, many text editors (including BBEdit, my preferred) will automatically strip whitespace at the end of a line.=C2=A0 Many users won&#= 39;t
realize it's there in the first place after all, and extra whitespace <= br> can make handling text documents awkward using automated tools.=C2=A0 (And,=
in case it ever matters, it can bloat filesizes.)

So relying on whitespace at the end of a line for required behavior is
uncertain at best, in my experience - and this is one thing where I
often have to go back in and manually edit Markdown files after I've formatted them with Pandoc.

Daniel T. Staal

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