How do I control and embed the fonts in my pdfs?

How do I control and embed the fonts in my pdfs?

[Hugh Esco]

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My tests seem to indicate that the fonts which are available to me are a 
function of the value of the `--latex-engine=` switch.  

If I set that switch to pdflatex (which seems to be the default), I can 
choose any font installed as a .sty file at this path: 
`/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/psnfss/`, by setting a value to 
the fontenc key at the top of my markdown source file.  

But I have not been able to sort out how to access other fonts installed at 
`/usr/share`, by setting the `--latex-engine` to `lualatext` or `xelatex`.  

All my tests seem to look alike, and changing my fonts has no impact on how 
the resulting pdf looks.  

Can someone please point me to some documentation which would help me 
understand how to use the full range of fonts available on this system, 
suitable for which ever value I set to the `--latext-engine` switch?  

Thanks,
-- Hugh Esco 

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Re: How do I control and embed the fonts in my pdfs?

[Hugh Esco]

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Also, how can I ensure that the font ultimately gets embedded in the result 
file?  

-- Hugh Esco 


On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 12:55:50 AM UTC-4 Hugh Esco wrote:

> My tests seem to indicate that the fonts which are available to me are a 
> function of the value of the `--latex-engine=` switch.  
>
> If I set that switch to pdflatex (which seems to be the default), I can 
> choose any font installed as a .sty file at this path: 
> `/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/psnfss/`, by setting a value to 
> the fontenc key at the top of my markdown source file.  
>
> But I have not been able to sort out how to access other fonts installed 
> at `/usr/share`, by setting the `--latex-engine` to `lualatext` or 
> `xelatex`.  
>
> All my tests seem to look alike, and changing my fonts has no impact on 
> how the resulting pdf looks.  
>
> Can someone please point me to some documentation which would help me 
> understand how to use the full range of fonts available on this system, 
> suitable for which ever value I set to the `--latext-engine` switch?  
>
> Thanks,
> -- Hugh Esco 
>
>

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Re: How do I control and embed the fonts in my pdfs?

[Bastien DUMONT]

For font selection and recognized names, see the fontspec documentation[1] p. 9-11.

From my experience, it seems to me that fonts are always embedded unless they forbide it. Although there may be more straightforward ways to check it, you can install pdftk and run `pdftk myfile.pdf output - uncompress | less` to check it directly in the uncompressed code (go directly at the end of the output).

[1]: https://www.ctan.org/pkg/fontspec

Le Sunday 15 August 2021 à 09:58:26PM, Hugh Esco a écrit :
> Also, how can I ensure that the font ultimately gets embedded in the result
> file? 
> 
> -- Hugh Esco
> 
> 
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 12:55:50 AM UTC-4 Hugh Esco wrote:
> 
>     My tests seem to indicate that the fonts which are available to me are a
>     function of the value of the `--latex-engine=` switch. 
> 
>     If I set that switch to pdflatex (which seems to be the default), I can
>     choose any font installed as a .sty file at this path: `/usr/share/texlive/
>     texmf-dist/tex/latex/psnfss/`, by setting a value to the fontenc key at the
>     top of my markdown source file. 
> 
>     But I have not been able to sort out how to access other fonts installed at
>     `/usr/share`, by setting the `--latex-engine` to `lualatext` or `xelatex`. 
> 
>     All my tests seem to look alike, and changing my fonts has no impact on how
>     the resulting pdf looks. 
> 
>     Can someone please point me to some documentation which would help me
>     understand how to use the full range of fonts available on this system,
>     suitable for which ever value I set to the `--latext-engine` switch? 
> 
>     Thanks,
>     -- Hugh Esco
> 
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Re: How do I control and embed the fonts in my pdfs?

[BPJ]

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You use the `mainfont`, `sansfont`, `monofont`, `mathfont`, `CJKmainfont`
variables for the font names and the corresponding `mainfontoptions` etc.
variables. The latter are lists of strings with raw fontspec[^1] options in
the format `'Option=Value'` or `'Option={Multi-word value}'`. The
easiest way is to specify them is in a defaults file[^2] like this:

    from: markdown
    to: latex
    pdf-engine: xelatex
    variables:
      mainfont: Noto Serif
      sansfont: Noto Sans
      monofont: Noto Mono
      monofontoptions:
        - 'Scale=MatchLowercase'

For some reason the default latex template[^3] does not contain any
variable for `defaultfontfeatures` but
`\defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}` is hard coded. In my custom
template I have added that variable[^4]:

    $if(defaultfontfeatures)$

\mainfontfeatures{$for(mainfontfeatures)$$mainfontfeatures$$sep$,$endfor$}
    $else$
      \defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}
    $endif$

Font embedding depends on your XeTeX/LuaTeX settings. Usually it Just Works.


[^1]: https://ctan.org/pkg/fontspec

[^2]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#default-files

[^3]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#templates

[^4]: https://git.io/J0UJS


Den mån 16 aug. 2021 06:56Hugh Esco <hresco3-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:

> My tests seem to indicate that the fonts which are available to me are a
> function of the value of the `--latex-engine=` switch.
>
> If I set that switch to pdflatex (which seems to be the default), I can
> choose any font installed as a .sty file at this path:
> `/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/psnfss/`, by setting a value to
> the fontenc key at the top of my markdown source file.
>
> But I have not been able to sort out how to access other fonts installed
> at `/usr/share`, by setting the `--latex-engine` to `lualatext` or
> `xelatex`.
>
> All my tests seem to look alike, and changing my fonts has no impact on
> how the resulting pdf looks.
>
> Can someone please point me to some documentation which would help me
> understand how to use the full range of fonts available on this system,
> suitable for which ever value I set to the `--latext-engine` switch?
>
> Thanks,
> -- Hugh Esco
>
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Re: How do I control and embed the fonts in my pdfs?

[BPJ]

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Den mån 16 aug. 2021 10:25BPJ <bpj-J3H7GcXPSITLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org> skrev:

> You use the `mainfont`, `sansfont`, `monofont`, `mathfont`, `CJKmainfont`
> variables for the font names and the corresponding `mainfontoptions` etc.
> variables. The latter are lists of strings with raw fontspec[^1] options
> in the format `'Option=Value'` or `'Option={Multi-word value}'`. The
> easiest way is to specify them is in a defaults file[^2] like this:
>
>     from: markdown
>     to: latex
>     pdf-engine: xelatex
>     variables:
>       mainfont: Noto Serif
>       sansfont: Noto Sans
>       monofont: Noto Mono
>       monofontoptions:
>         - 'Scale=MatchLowercase'
>
> For some reason the default latex template[^3] does not contain any
> variable for `defaultfontfeatures` but
> `\defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}` is hard coded. In my custom
> template I have added that variable[^4]:
>
>     $if(defaultfontfeatures)$
>
> \mainfontfeatures{$for(mainfontfeatures)$$mainfontfeatures$$sep$,$endfor$}
>     $else$
>
      \defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}
>     $endif$
>

Sorry, a typo: it should be `defaultfontfeatures` rather than
`mainfontfeatures`. That's what happens when you copy the wrong line and
use search/replace to make up for it! :-/


> Font embedding depends on your XeTeX/LuaTeX settings. Usually it Just
> Works.
>
>
> [^1]: https://ctan.org/pkg/fontspec
>
> [^2]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#default-files
>
> [^3]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#templates
>
> [^4]: https://git.io/J0UJS
>
>
> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 06:56Hugh Esco <hresco3-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>
>> My tests seem to indicate that the fonts which are available to me are a
>> function of the value of the `--latex-engine=` switch.
>>
>> If I set that switch to pdflatex (which seems to be the default), I can
>> choose any font installed as a .sty file at this path:
>> `/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/psnfss/`, by setting a value to
>> the fontenc key at the top of my markdown source file.
>>
>> But I have not been able to sort out how to access other fonts installed
>> at `/usr/share`, by setting the `--latex-engine` to `lualatext` or
>> `xelatex`.
>>
>> All my tests seem to look alike, and changing my fonts has no impact on
>> how the resulting pdf looks.
>>
>> Can someone please point me to some documentation which would help me
>> understand how to use the full range of fonts available on this system,
>> suitable for which ever value I set to the `--latext-engine` switch?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -- Hugh Esco
>>
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>> .
>>
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Re: How do I control and embed the fonts in my pdfs?

[Hugh Esco]

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My attempts to test this yield errors looking like this:

```
$ pandoc --defaults `pwd`/defaults --latex-engine=lualatex 
--template=my_client.latex my_source_file.pdc -o my_result_file.pdf
pandoc: unrecognized option `--defaults'
Try pandoc --help for more information.
```
looking at the --help output yields this:

```
$ pandoc --help | grep default
  -D FORMAT             --print-default-template=FORMAT                 
                        --print-default-data-file=FILE                  
                        --default-image-extension=extension
```

but no `--defaults` switch.  What am I missing here, please?

-- Hugh 

On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 4:32:15 AM UTC-4 BPJ wrote:

>
>
> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 10:25BPJ <b...-J3H7GcXPSITLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>
>> You use the `mainfont`, `sansfont`, `monofont`, `mathfont`, `CJKmainfont`
>> variables for the font names and the corresponding `mainfontoptions` etc.
>> variables. The latter are lists of strings with raw fontspec[^1] options 
>> in the format `'Option=Value'` or `'Option={Multi-word value}'`. The
>> easiest way is to specify them is in a defaults file[^2] like this:
>>
>>     from: markdown
>>     to: latex
>>     pdf-engine: xelatex
>>     variables:
>>       mainfont: Noto Serif
>>       sansfont: Noto Sans
>>       monofont: Noto Mono
>>       monofontoptions:
>>         - 'Scale=MatchLowercase'
>>
>> For some reason the default latex template[^3] does not contain any
>> variable for `defaultfontfeatures` but
>> `\defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}` is hard coded. In my custom
>> template I have added that variable[^4]:
>>
>>     $if(defaultfontfeatures)$
>>       
>> \mainfontfeatures{$for(mainfontfeatures)$$mainfontfeatures$$sep$,$endfor$}
>>     $else$
>>
>       \defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}
>>     $endif$
>>
>
> Sorry, a typo: it should be `defaultfontfeatures` rather than 
> `mainfontfeatures`. That's what happens when you copy the wrong line and 
> use search/replace to make up for it! :-/
>
>
>> Font embedding depends on your XeTeX/LuaTeX settings. Usually it Just 
>> Works.
>>
>>
>> [^1]: https://ctan.org/pkg/fontspec
>>
>> [^2]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#default-files
>>
>> [^3]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#templates
>>
>> [^4]: https://git.io/J0UJS
>>
>>
>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 06:56Hugh Esco <hre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>>
>>> My tests seem to indicate that the fonts which are available to me are a 
>>> function of the value of the `--latex-engine=` switch.  
>>>
>>> If I set that switch to pdflatex (which seems to be the default), I can 
>>> choose any font installed as a .sty file at this path: 
>>> `/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/psnfss/`, by setting a value to 
>>> the fontenc key at the top of my markdown source file.  
>>>
>>> But I have not been able to sort out how to access other fonts installed 
>>> at `/usr/share`, by setting the `--latex-engine` to `lualatext` or 
>>> `xelatex`.  
>>>
>>> All my tests seem to look alike, and changing my fonts has no impact on 
>>> how the resulting pdf looks.  
>>>
>>> Can someone please point me to some documentation which would help me 
>>> understand how to use the full range of fonts available on this system, 
>>> suitable for which ever value I set to the `--latext-engine` switch?  
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -- Hugh Esco 
>>>
>>> -- 
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>>> .
>>>
>>

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Re: How do I control and embed the fonts in my pdfs?

[BPJ]

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You probably need to upgrade pandoc.
What does pandoc --version say?

Den mån 16 aug. 2021 17:10Hugh Esco <hresco3-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:

> My attempts to test this yield errors looking like this:
>
> ```
> $ pandoc --defaults `pwd`/defaults --latex-engine=lualatex
> --template=my_client.latex my_source_file.pdc -o my_result_file.pdf
> pandoc: unrecognized option `--defaults'
> Try pandoc --help for more information.
> ```
> looking at the --help output yields this:
>
> ```
> $ pandoc --help | grep default
>   -D FORMAT             --print-default-template=FORMAT
>                         --print-default-data-file=FILE
>                         --default-image-extension=extension
> ```
>
> but no `--defaults` switch.  What am I missing here, please?
>
> -- Hugh
>
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 4:32:15 AM UTC-4 BPJ wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 10:25BPJ <b...-J3H7GcXPSITLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>>
>>> You use the `mainfont`, `sansfont`, `monofont`, `mathfont`, `CJKmainfont`
>>> variables for the font names and the corresponding `mainfontoptions` etc.
>>> variables. The latter are lists of strings with raw fontspec[^1] options
>>> in the format `'Option=Value'` or `'Option={Multi-word value}'`. The
>>> easiest way is to specify them is in a defaults file[^2] like this:
>>>
>>>     from: markdown
>>>     to: latex
>>>     pdf-engine: xelatex
>>>     variables:
>>>       mainfont: Noto Serif
>>>       sansfont: Noto Sans
>>>       monofont: Noto Mono
>>>       monofontoptions:
>>>         - 'Scale=MatchLowercase'
>>>
>>> For some reason the default latex template[^3] does not contain any
>>> variable for `defaultfontfeatures` but
>>> `\defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}` is hard coded. In my custom
>>> template I have added that variable[^4]:
>>>
>>>     $if(defaultfontfeatures)$
>>>
>>> \mainfontfeatures{$for(mainfontfeatures)$$mainfontfeatures$$sep$,$endfor$}
>>>     $else$
>>>
>>       \defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}
>>>     $endif$
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, a typo: it should be `defaultfontfeatures` rather than
>> `mainfontfeatures`. That's what happens when you copy the wrong line and
>> use search/replace to make up for it! :-/
>>
>>
>>> Font embedding depends on your XeTeX/LuaTeX settings. Usually it Just
>>> Works.
>>>
>>>
>>> [^1]: https://ctan.org/pkg/fontspec
>>>
>>> [^2]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#default-files
>>>
>>> [^3]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#templates
>>>
>>> [^4]: https://git.io/J0UJS
>>>
>>>
>>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 06:56Hugh Esco <hre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>>>
>>>> My tests seem to indicate that the fonts which are available to me are
>>>> a function of the value of the `--latex-engine=` switch.
>>>>
>>>> If I set that switch to pdflatex (which seems to be the default), I can
>>>> choose any font installed as a .sty file at this path:
>>>> `/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/psnfss/`, by setting a value to
>>>> the fontenc key at the top of my markdown source file.
>>>>
>>>> But I have not been able to sort out how to access other fonts
>>>> installed at `/usr/share`, by setting the `--latex-engine` to `lualatext`
>>>> or `xelatex`.
>>>>
>>>> All my tests seem to look alike, and changing my fonts has no impact on
>>>> how the resulting pdf looks.
>>>>
>>>> Can someone please point me to some documentation which would help me
>>>> understand how to use the full range of fonts available on this system,
>>>> suitable for which ever value I set to the `--latext-engine` switch?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> -- Hugh Esco
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
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>>>> .
>>>>
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Re: How do I control and embed the fonts in my pdfs?

[Hugh Esco]

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pandoc 1.19.2.4
Compiled with pandoc-types 1.17.0.5, texmath 0.9.4.4, skylighting 0.3.3.1
Default user data directory: /home/hesco/.pandoc
Copyright (C) 2006-2016 John MacFarlane
Web:  http://pandoc.org

On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 11:46:08 AM UTC-4 BPJ wrote:

> You probably need to upgrade pandoc.
> What does pandoc --version say?
>
> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 17:10Hugh Esco <hre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>
>> My attempts to test this yield errors looking like this:
>>
>> ```
>> $ pandoc --defaults `pwd`/defaults --latex-engine=lualatex 
>> --template=my_client.latex my_source_file.pdc -o my_result_file.pdf
>> pandoc: unrecognized option `--defaults'
>> Try pandoc --help for more information.
>> ```
>> looking at the --help output yields this:
>>
>> ```
>> $ pandoc --help | grep default
>>   -D FORMAT             --print-default-template=FORMAT                 
>>                         --print-default-data-file=FILE                  
>>                         --default-image-extension=extension
>> ```
>>
>> but no `--defaults` switch.  What am I missing here, please?
>>
>> -- Hugh 
>>
>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 4:32:15 AM UTC-4 BPJ wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 10:25BPJ <b...-J3H7GcXPSITLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>>>
>>>> You use the `mainfont`, `sansfont`, `monofont`, `mathfont`, 
>>>> `CJKmainfont`
>>>> variables for the font names and the corresponding `mainfontoptions` 
>>>> etc.
>>>> variables. The latter are lists of strings with raw fontspec[^1] 
>>>> options in the format `'Option=Value'` or `'Option={Multi-word value}'`. The
>>>> easiest way is to specify them is in a defaults file[^2] like this:
>>>>
>>>>     from: markdown
>>>>     to: latex
>>>>     pdf-engine: xelatex
>>>>     variables:
>>>>       mainfont: Noto Serif
>>>>       sansfont: Noto Sans
>>>>       monofont: Noto Mono
>>>>       monofontoptions:
>>>>         - 'Scale=MatchLowercase'
>>>>
>>>> For some reason the default latex template[^3] does not contain any
>>>> variable for `defaultfontfeatures` but
>>>> `\defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}` is hard coded. In my custom
>>>> template I have added that variable[^4]:
>>>>
>>>>     $if(defaultfontfeatures)$
>>>>       
>>>> \mainfontfeatures{$for(mainfontfeatures)$$mainfontfeatures$$sep$,$endfor$}
>>>>     $else$
>>>>
>>>       \defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}
>>>>     $endif$
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, a typo: it should be `defaultfontfeatures` rather than 
>>> `mainfontfeatures`. That's what happens when you copy the wrong line and 
>>> use search/replace to make up for it! :-/
>>>
>>>
>>>> Font embedding depends on your XeTeX/LuaTeX settings. Usually it Just 
>>>> Works.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [^1]: https://ctan.org/pkg/fontspec
>>>>
>>>> [^2]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#default-files
>>>>
>>>> [^3]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#templates
>>>>
>>>> [^4]: https://git.io/J0UJS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 06:56Hugh Esco <hre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>>>>
>>>>> My tests seem to indicate that the fonts which are available to me are 
>>>>> a function of the value of the `--latex-engine=` switch.  
>>>>>
>>>>> If I set that switch to pdflatex (which seems to be the default), I 
>>>>> can choose any font installed as a .sty file at this path: 
>>>>> `/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/psnfss/`, by setting a value to 
>>>>> the fontenc key at the top of my markdown source file.  
>>>>>
>>>>> But I have not been able to sort out how to access other fonts 
>>>>> installed at `/usr/share`, by setting the `--latex-engine` to `lualatext` 
>>>>> or `xelatex`.  
>>>>>
>>>>> All my tests seem to look alike, and changing my fonts has no impact 
>>>>> on how the resulting pdf looks.  
>>>>>
>>>>> Can someone please point me to some documentation which would help me 
>>>>> understand how to use the full range of fonts available on this system, 
>>>>> suitable for which ever value I set to the `--latext-engine` switch?  
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> -- Hugh Esco 
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
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>>>>> an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
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>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/543536ca-7ced-4033-ad1a-ecdd3fedaf44n%40googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/543536ca-7ced-4033-ad1a-ecdd3fedaf44n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
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Re: How do I control and embed the fonts in my pdfs?

[Hugh Esco]

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OK, this seems to be working better now:

```
pandoc 2.14.1
Compiled with pandoc-types 1.22, texmath 0.12.3, skylighting 0.11,
citeproc 0.4.1, ipynb 0.1.0.1
User data directory: /home/hesco/.pandoc
Copyright (C) 2006-2021 John MacFarlane. Web:  https://pandoc.org
```

NEXT QUESTIONS:

What path is being searched for fonts?  
How do I know what my options are?

On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 11:55:41 AM UTC-4 Hugh Esco wrote:

> pandoc 1.19.2.4
> Compiled with pandoc-types 1.17.0.5, texmath 0.9.4.4, skylighting 0.3.3.1
> Default user data directory: /home/hesco/.pandoc
> Copyright (C) 2006-2016 John MacFarlane
> Web:  http://pandoc.org
>
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 11:46:08 AM UTC-4 BPJ wrote:
>
>> You probably need to upgrade pandoc.
>> What does pandoc --version say?
>>
>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 17:10Hugh Esco <hre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>>
>>> My attempts to test this yield errors looking like this:
>>>
>>> ```
>>> $ pandoc --defaults `pwd`/defaults --latex-engine=lualatex 
>>> --template=my_client.latex my_source_file.pdc -o my_result_file.pdf
>>> pandoc: unrecognized option `--defaults'
>>> Try pandoc --help for more information.
>>> ```
>>> looking at the --help output yields this:
>>>
>>> ```
>>> $ pandoc --help | grep default
>>>   -D FORMAT             --print-default-template=FORMAT                 
>>>                         --print-default-data-file=FILE                  
>>>                         --default-image-extension=extension
>>> ```
>>>
>>> but no `--defaults` switch.  What am I missing here, please?
>>>
>>> -- Hugh 
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 4:32:15 AM UTC-4 BPJ wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 10:25BPJ <b...-J3H7GcXPSITLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>>>>
>>>>> You use the `mainfont`, `sansfont`, `monofont`, `mathfont`, 
>>>>> `CJKmainfont`
>>>>> variables for the font names and the corresponding `mainfontoptions` 
>>>>> etc.
>>>>> variables. The latter are lists of strings with raw fontspec[^1] 
>>>>> options in the format `'Option=Value'` or `'Option={Multi-word value}'`. The
>>>>> easiest way is to specify them is in a defaults file[^2] like this:
>>>>>
>>>>>     from: markdown
>>>>>     to: latex
>>>>>     pdf-engine: xelatex
>>>>>     variables:
>>>>>       mainfont: Noto Serif
>>>>>       sansfont: Noto Sans
>>>>>       monofont: Noto Mono
>>>>>       monofontoptions:
>>>>>         - 'Scale=MatchLowercase'
>>>>>
>>>>> For some reason the default latex template[^3] does not contain any
>>>>> variable for `defaultfontfeatures` but
>>>>> `\defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}` is hard coded. In my 
>>>>> custom
>>>>> template I have added that variable[^4]:
>>>>>
>>>>>     $if(defaultfontfeatures)$
>>>>>       
>>>>> \mainfontfeatures{$for(mainfontfeatures)$$mainfontfeatures$$sep$,$endfor$}
>>>>>     $else$
>>>>>
>>>>       \defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}
>>>>>     $endif$
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, a typo: it should be `defaultfontfeatures` rather than 
>>>> `mainfontfeatures`. That's what happens when you copy the wrong line and 
>>>> use search/replace to make up for it! :-/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Font embedding depends on your XeTeX/LuaTeX settings. Usually it Just 
>>>>> Works.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [^1]: https://ctan.org/pkg/fontspec
>>>>>
>>>>> [^2]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#default-files
>>>>>
>>>>> [^3]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#templates
>>>>>
>>>>> [^4]: https://git.io/J0UJS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 06:56Hugh Esco <hre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My tests seem to indicate that the fonts which are available to me 
>>>>>> are a function of the value of the `--latex-engine=` switch.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I set that switch to pdflatex (which seems to be the default), I 
>>>>>> can choose any font installed as a .sty file at this path: 
>>>>>> `/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/psnfss/`, by setting a value to 
>>>>>> the fontenc key at the top of my markdown source file.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I have not been able to sort out how to access other fonts 
>>>>>> installed at `/usr/share`, by setting the `--latex-engine` to `lualatext` 
>>>>>> or `xelatex`.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All my tests seem to look alike, and changing my fonts has no impact 
>>>>>> on how the resulting pdf looks.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can someone please point me to some documentation which would help me 
>>>>>> understand how to use the full range of fonts available on this system, 
>>>>>> suitable for which ever value I set to the `--latext-engine` switch?  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> -- Hugh Esco 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>>>>> Groups "pandoc-discuss" group.
>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, 
>>>>>> send an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/543536ca-7ced-4033-ad1a-ecdd3fedaf44n%40googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/543536ca-7ced-4033-ad1a-ecdd3fedaf44n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
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>>>
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Re: How do I control and embed the fonts in my pdfs?

[Hugh Esco]

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Reason I ask is that this query of my file system was not very helpful to 
narrowing down what path to a noto font was being used, or what file 
extension I might be interested in as I explore my options to satisfy my 
client's requirements.  

```
$ find /usr/share/ -name noto 
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/google/noto
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/enc/dvips/noto
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/google/noto
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/noto
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/type1/google/noto
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/vf/google/noto
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/google/noto
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/noto
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/noto
/usr/share/fonts/opentype/noto
```


On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 12:10:54 PM UTC-4 Hugh Esco wrote:

> OK, this seems to be working better now:
>
> ```
> pandoc 2.14.1
> Compiled with pandoc-types 1.22, texmath 0.12.3, skylighting 0.11,
> citeproc 0.4.1, ipynb 0.1.0.1
> User data directory: /home/hesco/.pandoc
> Copyright (C) 2006-2021 John MacFarlane. Web:  https://pandoc.org
> ```
>
> NEXT QUESTIONS:
>
> What path is being searched for fonts?  
> How do I know what my options are?
>
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 11:55:41 AM UTC-4 Hugh Esco wrote:
>
>> pandoc 1.19.2.4
>> Compiled with pandoc-types 1.17.0.5, texmath 0.9.4.4, skylighting 0.3.3.1
>> Default user data directory: /home/hesco/.pandoc
>> Copyright (C) 2006-2016 John MacFarlane
>> Web:  http://pandoc.org
>>
>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 11:46:08 AM UTC-4 BPJ wrote:
>>
>>> You probably need to upgrade pandoc.
>>> What does pandoc --version say?
>>>
>>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 17:10Hugh Esco <hre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>>>
>>>> My attempts to test this yield errors looking like this:
>>>>
>>>> ```
>>>> $ pandoc --defaults `pwd`/defaults --latex-engine=lualatex 
>>>> --template=my_client.latex my_source_file.pdc -o my_result_file.pdf
>>>> pandoc: unrecognized option `--defaults'
>>>> Try pandoc --help for more information.
>>>> ```
>>>> looking at the --help output yields this:
>>>>
>>>> ```
>>>> $ pandoc --help | grep default
>>>>   -D FORMAT             --print-default-template=FORMAT                 
>>>>                         --print-default-data-file=FILE                  
>>>>                         --default-image-extension=extension
>>>> ```
>>>>
>>>> but no `--defaults` switch.  What am I missing here, please?
>>>>
>>>> -- Hugh 
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 4:32:15 AM UTC-4 BPJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 10:25BPJ <b...-J3H7GcXPSITLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You use the `mainfont`, `sansfont`, `monofont`, `mathfont`, 
>>>>>> `CJKmainfont`
>>>>>> variables for the font names and the corresponding `mainfontoptions` 
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>> variables. The latter are lists of strings with raw fontspec[^1] 
>>>>>> options in the format `'Option=Value'` or `'Option={Multi-word value}'`. The
>>>>>> easiest way is to specify them is in a defaults file[^2] like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     from: markdown
>>>>>>     to: latex
>>>>>>     pdf-engine: xelatex
>>>>>>     variables:
>>>>>>       mainfont: Noto Serif
>>>>>>       sansfont: Noto Sans
>>>>>>       monofont: Noto Mono
>>>>>>       monofontoptions:
>>>>>>         - 'Scale=MatchLowercase'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For some reason the default latex template[^3] does not contain any
>>>>>> variable for `defaultfontfeatures` but
>>>>>> `\defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}` is hard coded. In my 
>>>>>> custom
>>>>>> template I have added that variable[^4]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     $if(defaultfontfeatures)$
>>>>>>       
>>>>>> \mainfontfeatures{$for(mainfontfeatures)$$mainfontfeatures$$sep$,$endfor$}
>>>>>>     $else$
>>>>>>
>>>>>       \defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}
>>>>>>     $endif$
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, a typo: it should be `defaultfontfeatures` rather than 
>>>>> `mainfontfeatures`. That's what happens when you copy the wrong line and 
>>>>> use search/replace to make up for it! :-/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Font embedding depends on your XeTeX/LuaTeX settings. Usually it Just 
>>>>>> Works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [^1]: https://ctan.org/pkg/fontspec
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [^2]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#default-files
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [^3]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#templates
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [^4]: https://git.io/J0UJS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 06:56Hugh Esco <hre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My tests seem to indicate that the fonts which are available to me 
>>>>>>> are a function of the value of the `--latex-engine=` switch.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I set that switch to pdflatex (which seems to be the default), I 
>>>>>>> can choose any font installed as a .sty file at this path: 
>>>>>>> `/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/psnfss/`, by setting a value to 
>>>>>>> the fontenc key at the top of my markdown source file.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I have not been able to sort out how to access other fonts 
>>>>>>> installed at `/usr/share`, by setting the `--latex-engine` to `lualatext` 
>>>>>>> or `xelatex`.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All my tests seem to look alike, and changing my fonts has no impact 
>>>>>>> on how the resulting pdf looks.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can someone please point me to some documentation which would help 
>>>>>>> me understand how to use the full range of fonts available on this system, 
>>>>>>> suitable for which ever value I set to the `--latext-engine` switch?  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> -- Hugh Esco 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>>>>>> Groups "pandoc-discuss" group.
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, 
>>>>>>> send an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/543536ca-7ced-4033-ad1a-ecdd3fedaf44n%40googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/543536ca-7ced-4033-ad1a-ecdd3fedaf44n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
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>>>>
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Re: How do I control and embed the fonts in my pdfs?

[BPJ]

On 2021-08-16 18:31, Hugh Esco wrote:
> Reason I ask is that this query of my file system was not very helpful to
> narrowing down what path to a noto font was being used, or what file
> extension I might be interested in as I explore my options to satisfy my
> client's requirements.
> 
> ```
> $ find /usr/share/ -name noto
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/google/noto
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/enc/dvips/noto
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/google/noto
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/noto
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/type1/google/noto
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/vf/google/noto
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/google/noto
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/noto
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/noto
> /usr/share/fonts/opentype/noto
> ```
> 

There is info in secs 2.2 and 2.3 of the fontspec docs which I linked to 
earlier on how to load fonts by path and file name. Basically like this 
if doing it from a defaults file:

``````yaml
from: markdown
to: latex
pdf-engine: xelatex
variables:
   mainfont: NotoSerif-Condensed
   mainfontoptions: &fontoptions
     - 'Path=/home/benct/.fonts/Noto/'
     - 'UprightFont=*Medium.ttf'
     - 'BoldFont=*SemiBold.ttf'
     - 'ItalicFont=*MediumItalic.ttf'
     - 'BoldItalicFont=*SemiBoldItalic.ttf'
   sansfont: NotoSans-Condensed
   sansfontoptions: *fontoptions
   monofont: NotoSansMono-
   monofontoptions:
     - 'Path=/home/benct/.fonts/Noto/'
     - 'UprightFont=*Medium.ttf'
     - 'BoldFont=*SemiBold.ttf'
``````

Pandoc just copies all this into the fontspec `\setmainfont` etc. 
commands. It is possible that the quotes aren't always necessary but the 
likelihood that the YAML parser doesn't like asterisks in unquoted 
strings is high, so use quotes when in doubt.
You can use YAML anchors and references to save on the typing inside the 
same defaults file but as you see I couldn't do it with SansMono because 
it doesn't have any italic styles. You could fake italic with fontspec's 
FakeSlant feature if you really needed it.




> 
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 12:10:54 PM UTC-4 Hugh Esco wrote:
> 
>> OK, this seems to be working better now:
>>
>> ```
>> pandoc 2.14.1
>> Compiled with pandoc-types 1.22, texmath 0.12.3, skylighting 0.11,
>> citeproc 0.4.1, ipynb 0.1.0.1
>> User data directory: /home/hesco/.pandoc
>> Copyright (C) 2006-2021 John MacFarlane. Web:  https://pandoc.org
>> ```
>>
>> NEXT QUESTIONS:
>>
>> What path is being searched for fonts?
>> How do I know what my options are?
>>
>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 11:55:41 AM UTC-4 Hugh Esco wrote:
>>
>>> pandoc 1.19.2.4
>>> Compiled with pandoc-types 1.17.0.5, texmath 0.9.4.4, skylighting 0.3.3.1
>>> Default user data directory: /home/hesco/.pandoc
>>> Copyright (C) 2006-2016 John MacFarlane
>>> Web:  http://pandoc.org
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 11:46:08 AM UTC-4 BPJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> You probably need to upgrade pandoc.
>>>> What does pandoc --version say?
>>>>
>>>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 17:10Hugh Esco <hre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>>>>
>>>>> My attempts to test this yield errors looking like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> ```
>>>>> $ pandoc --defaults `pwd`/defaults --latex-engine=lualatex
>>>>> --template=my_client.latex my_source_file.pdc -o my_result_file.pdf
>>>>> pandoc: unrecognized option `--defaults'
>>>>> Try pandoc --help for more information.
>>>>> ```
>>>>> looking at the --help output yields this:
>>>>>
>>>>> ```
>>>>> $ pandoc --help | grep default
>>>>>    -D FORMAT             --print-default-template=FORMAT
>>>>>                          --print-default-data-file=FILE
>>>>>                          --default-image-extension=extension
>>>>> ```
>>>>>
>>>>> but no `--defaults` switch.  What am I missing here, please?
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Hugh
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 4:32:15 AM UTC-4 BPJ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 10:25BPJ <b...-J3H7GcXPSITLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You use the `mainfont`, `sansfont`, `monofont`, `mathfont`,
>>>>>>> `CJKmainfont`
>>>>>>> variables for the font names and the corresponding `mainfontoptions`
>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>> variables. The latter are lists of strings with raw fontspec[^1]
>>>>>>> options in the format `'Option=Value'` or `'Option={Multi-word value}'`. The
>>>>>>> easiest way is to specify them is in a defaults file[^2] like this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      from: markdown
>>>>>>>      to: latex
>>>>>>>      pdf-engine: xelatex
>>>>>>>      variables:
>>>>>>>        mainfont: Noto Serif
>>>>>>>        sansfont: Noto Sans
>>>>>>>        monofont: Noto Mono
>>>>>>>        monofontoptions:
>>>>>>>          - 'Scale=MatchLowercase'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For some reason the default latex template[^3] does not contain any
>>>>>>> variable for `defaultfontfeatures` but
>>>>>>> `\defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}` is hard coded. In my
>>>>>>> custom
>>>>>>> template I have added that variable[^4]:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      $if(defaultfontfeatures)$
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>> \mainfontfeatures{$for(mainfontfeatures)$$mainfontfeatures$$sep$,$endfor$}
>>>>>>>      $else$
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>        \defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}
>>>>>>>      $endif$
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, a typo: it should be `defaultfontfeatures` rather than
>>>>>> `mainfontfeatures`. That's what happens when you copy the wrong line and
>>>>>> use search/replace to make up for it! :-/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Font embedding depends on your XeTeX/LuaTeX settings. Usually it Just
>>>>>>> Works.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [^1]: https://ctan.org/pkg/fontspec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [^2]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#default-files
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [^3]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#templates
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [^4]: https://git.io/J0UJS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 06:56Hugh Esco <hre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My tests seem to indicate that the fonts which are available to me
>>>>>>>> are a function of the value of the `--latex-engine=` switch.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I set that switch to pdflatex (which seems to be the default), I
>>>>>>>> can choose any font installed as a .sty file at this path:
>>>>>>>> `/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/psnfss/`, by setting a value to
>>>>>>>> the fontenc key at the top of my markdown source file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But I have not been able to sort out how to access other fonts
>>>>>>>> installed at `/usr/share`, by setting the `--latex-engine` to `lualatext`
>>>>>>>> or `xelatex`.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All my tests seem to look alike, and changing my fonts has no impact
>>>>>>>> on how the resulting pdf looks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can someone please point me to some documentation which would help
>>>>>>>> me understand how to use the full range of fonts available on this system,
>>>>>>>> suitable for which ever value I set to the `--latext-engine` switch?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> -- Hugh Esco
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- 
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>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>
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Re: How do I control and embed the fonts in my pdfs?

[Hugh Esco]

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Thank you @BP !!! that seems to have moved me forward.  
One more question, please, if I may; . . . 

When I add variables.fontsize: 12pt, I am able to bump the font size up a 
bit, but when I make it 14pt, it looks as if I said 10pt, and I get two 
more complete paragraphs on page 1.  

I'm using this  font:
https://ctan.org/pkg/tinos

Is there some version of Times (my client's preference) which would support 
a larger font than 12pt?   And more importantly, how is it would can 
effectively search for this information myself?

-- Hugh 

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 1:03:39 PM UTC-4 BP wrote:

> On 2021-08-16 18:31, Hugh Esco wrote:
> > Reason I ask is that this query of my file system was not very helpful to
> > narrowing down what path to a noto font was being used, or what file
> > extension I might be interested in as I explore my options to satisfy my
> > client's requirements.
> > 
> > ```
> > $ find /usr/share/ -name noto
> > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/google/noto
> > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/enc/dvips/noto
> > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/google/noto
> > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/noto
> > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/type1/google/noto
> > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/vf/google/noto
> > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/google/noto
> > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/noto
> > /usr/share/fonts/truetype/noto
> > /usr/share/fonts/opentype/noto
> > ```
> > 
>
> There is info in secs 2.2 and 2.3 of the fontspec docs which I linked to 
> earlier on how to load fonts by path and file name. Basically like this 
> if doing it from a defaults file:
>
> ``````yaml
> from: markdown
> to: latex
> pdf-engine: xelatex
> variables:
> mainfont: NotoSerif-Condensed
> mainfontoptions: &fontoptions
> - 'Path=/home/benct/.fonts/Noto/'
> - 'UprightFont=*Medium.ttf'
> - 'BoldFont=*SemiBold.ttf'
> - 'ItalicFont=*MediumItalic.ttf'
> - 'BoldItalicFont=*SemiBoldItalic.ttf'
> sansfont: NotoSans-Condensed
> sansfontoptions: *fontoptions
> monofont: NotoSansMono-
> monofontoptions:
> - 'Path=/home/benct/.fonts/Noto/'
> - 'UprightFont=*Medium.ttf'
> - 'BoldFont=*SemiBold.ttf'
> ``````
>
> Pandoc just copies all this into the fontspec `\setmainfont` etc. 
> commands. It is possible that the quotes aren't always necessary but the 
> likelihood that the YAML parser doesn't like asterisks in unquoted 
> strings is high, so use quotes when in doubt.
> You can use YAML anchors and references to save on the typing inside the 
> same defaults file but as you see I couldn't do it with SansMono because 
> it doesn't have any italic styles. You could fake italic with fontspec's 
> FakeSlant feature if you really needed it.
>
>
>
>
> > 
> > On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 12:10:54 PM UTC-4 Hugh Esco wrote:
> > 
> >> OK, this seems to be working better now:
> >>
> >> ```
> >> pandoc 2.14.1
> >> Compiled with pandoc-types 1.22, texmath 0.12.3, skylighting 0.11,
> >> citeproc 0.4.1, ipynb 0.1.0.1
> >> User data directory: /home/hesco/.pandoc
> >> Copyright (C) 2006-2021 John MacFarlane. Web: https://pandoc.org
> >> ```
> >>
> >> NEXT QUESTIONS:
> >>
> >> What path is being searched for fonts?
> >> How do I know what my options are?
> >>
> >> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 11:55:41 AM UTC-4 Hugh Esco wrote:
> >>
> >>> pandoc 1.19.2.4
> >>> Compiled with pandoc-types 1.17.0.5, texmath 0.9.4.4, skylighting 
> 0.3.3.1
> >>> Default user data directory: /home/hesco/.pandoc
> >>> Copyright (C) 2006-2016 John MacFarlane
> >>> Web: http://pandoc.org
> >>>
> >>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 11:46:08 AM UTC-4 BPJ wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You probably need to upgrade pandoc.
> >>>> What does pandoc --version say?
> >>>>
> >>>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 17:10Hugh Esco <hre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
> >>>>
> >>>>> My attempts to test this yield errors looking like this:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ```
> >>>>> $ pandoc --defaults `pwd`/defaults --latex-engine=lualatex
> >>>>> --template=my_client.latex my_source_file.pdc -o my_result_file.pdf
> >>>>> pandoc: unrecognized option `--defaults'
> >>>>> Try pandoc --help for more information.
> >>>>> ```
> >>>>> looking at the --help output yields this:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ```
> >>>>> $ pandoc --help | grep default
> >>>>> -D FORMAT --print-default-template=FORMAT
> >>>>> --print-default-data-file=FILE
> >>>>> --default-image-extension=extension
> >>>>> ```
> >>>>>
> >>>>> but no `--defaults` switch. What am I missing here, please?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- Hugh
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 4:32:15 AM UTC-4 BPJ wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 10:25BPJ <b...-J3H7GcXPSITLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You use the `mainfont`, `sansfont`, `monofont`, `mathfont`,
> >>>>>>> `CJKmainfont`
> >>>>>>> variables for the font names and the corresponding 
> `mainfontoptions`
> >>>>>>> etc.
> >>>>>>> variables. The latter are lists of strings with raw fontspec[^1]
> >>>>>>> options in the format `'Option=Value'` or `'Option={Multi-word 
> value}'`. The
> >>>>>>> easiest way is to specify them is in a defaults file[^2] like this:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> from: markdown
> >>>>>>> to: latex
> >>>>>>> pdf-engine: xelatex
> >>>>>>> variables:
> >>>>>>> mainfont: Noto Serif
> >>>>>>> sansfont: Noto Sans
> >>>>>>> monofont: Noto Mono
> >>>>>>> monofontoptions:
> >>>>>>> - 'Scale=MatchLowercase'
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> For some reason the default latex template[^3] does not contain any
> >>>>>>> variable for `defaultfontfeatures` but
> >>>>>>> `\defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}` is hard coded. In my
> >>>>>>> custom
> >>>>>>> template I have added that variable[^4]:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> $if(defaultfontfeatures)$
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> \mainfontfeatures{$for(mainfontfeatures)$$mainfontfeatures$$sep$,$endfor$}
> >>>>>>> $else$
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> \defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}
> >>>>>>> $endif$
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sorry, a typo: it should be `defaultfontfeatures` rather than
> >>>>>> `mainfontfeatures`. That's what happens when you copy the wrong 
> line and
> >>>>>> use search/replace to make up for it! :-/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Font embedding depends on your XeTeX/LuaTeX settings. Usually it 
> Just
> >>>>>>> Works.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [^1]: https://ctan.org/pkg/fontspec
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [^2]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#default-files
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [^3]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#templates
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [^4]: https://git.io/J0UJS
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 06:56Hugh Esco <hre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> My tests seem to indicate that the fonts which are available to me
> >>>>>>>> are a function of the value of the `--latex-engine=` switch.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If I set that switch to pdflatex (which seems to be the default), 
> I
> >>>>>>>> can choose any font installed as a .sty file at this path:
> >>>>>>>> `/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/psnfss/`, by setting a 
> value to
> >>>>>>>> the fontenc key at the top of my markdown source file.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> But I have not been able to sort out how to access other fonts
> >>>>>>>> installed at `/usr/share`, by setting the `--latex-engine` to 
> `lualatext`
> >>>>>>>> or `xelatex`.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> All my tests seem to look alike, and changing my fonts has no 
> impact
> >>>>>>>> on how the resulting pdf looks.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Can someone please point me to some documentation which would help
> >>>>>>>> me understand how to use the full range of fonts available on 
> this system,
> >>>>>>>> suitable for which ever value I set to the `--latext-engine` 
> switch?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>> -- Hugh Esco
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -- 
> >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> >>>>>>>> Groups "pandoc-discuss" group.
> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
> >>>>>>>> send an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
> >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit
> >>>>>>>> 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/543536ca-7ced-4033-ad1a-ecdd3fedaf44n%40googlegroups.com
> >>>>>>>> <
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/543536ca-7ced-4033-ad1a-ecdd3fedaf44n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer
> >
> >>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -- 
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> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, 
> send
> >>>>> an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
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> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit
> >>>>> 
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> >
> >>>>> .
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> > 
>
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Re: How do I control and embed the fonts in my pdfs?

[BPJ]

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See

https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/70384/93534

Den ons 18 aug. 2021 19:53Hugh Esco <hresco3-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:

> Thank you @BP !!! that seems to have moved me forward.
> One more question, please, if I may; . . .
>
> When I add variables.fontsize: 12pt, I am able to bump the font size up a
> bit, but when I make it 14pt, it looks as if I said 10pt, and I get two
> more complete paragraphs on page 1.
>
> I'm using this  font:
> https://ctan.org/pkg/tinos
>
> Is there some version of Times (my client's preference) which would
> support a larger font than 12pt?   And more importantly, how is it would
> can effectively search for this information myself?
>
> -- Hugh
>
> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 1:03:39 PM UTC-4 BP wrote:
>
>> On 2021-08-16 18:31, Hugh Esco wrote:
>> > Reason I ask is that this query of my file system was not very helpful
>> to
>> > narrowing down what path to a noto font was being used, or what file
>> > extension I might be interested in as I explore my options to satisfy
>> my
>> > client's requirements.
>> >
>> > ```
>> > $ find /usr/share/ -name noto
>> > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/google/noto
>> > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/enc/dvips/noto
>> > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/google/noto
>> > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/noto
>> > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/type1/google/noto
>> > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/vf/google/noto
>> > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/google/noto
>> > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/noto
>> > /usr/share/fonts/truetype/noto
>> > /usr/share/fonts/opentype/noto
>> > ```
>> >
>>
>> There is info in secs 2.2 and 2.3 of the fontspec docs which I linked to
>> earlier on how to load fonts by path and file name. Basically like this
>> if doing it from a defaults file:
>>
>> ``````yaml
>> from: markdown
>> to: latex
>> pdf-engine: xelatex
>> variables:
>> mainfont: NotoSerif-Condensed
>> mainfontoptions: &fontoptions
>> - 'Path=/home/benct/.fonts/Noto/'
>> - 'UprightFont=*Medium.ttf'
>> - 'BoldFont=*SemiBold.ttf'
>> - 'ItalicFont=*MediumItalic.ttf'
>> - 'BoldItalicFont=*SemiBoldItalic.ttf'
>> sansfont: NotoSans-Condensed
>> sansfontoptions: *fontoptions
>> monofont: NotoSansMono-
>> monofontoptions:
>> - 'Path=/home/benct/.fonts/Noto/'
>> - 'UprightFont=*Medium.ttf'
>> - 'BoldFont=*SemiBold.ttf'
>> ``````
>>
>> Pandoc just copies all this into the fontspec `\setmainfont` etc.
>> commands. It is possible that the quotes aren't always necessary but the
>> likelihood that the YAML parser doesn't like asterisks in unquoted
>> strings is high, so use quotes when in doubt.
>> You can use YAML anchors and references to save on the typing inside the
>> same defaults file but as you see I couldn't do it with SansMono because
>> it doesn't have any italic styles. You could fake italic with fontspec's
>> FakeSlant feature if you really needed it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 12:10:54 PM UTC-4 Hugh Esco wrote:
>> >
>> >> OK, this seems to be working better now:
>> >>
>> >> ```
>> >> pandoc 2.14.1
>> >> Compiled with pandoc-types 1.22, texmath 0.12.3, skylighting 0.11,
>> >> citeproc 0.4.1, ipynb 0.1.0.1
>> >> User data directory: /home/hesco/.pandoc
>> >> Copyright (C) 2006-2021 John MacFarlane. Web: https://pandoc.org
>> >> ```
>> >>
>> >> NEXT QUESTIONS:
>> >>
>> >> What path is being searched for fonts?
>> >> How do I know what my options are?
>> >>
>> >> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 11:55:41 AM UTC-4 Hugh Esco wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> pandoc 1.19.2.4
>> >>> Compiled with pandoc-types 1.17.0.5, texmath 0.9.4.4, skylighting
>> 0.3.3.1
>> >>> Default user data directory: /home/hesco/.pandoc
>> >>> Copyright (C) 2006-2016 John MacFarlane
>> >>> Web: http://pandoc.org
>> >>>
>> >>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 11:46:08 AM UTC-4 BPJ wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> You probably need to upgrade pandoc.
>> >>>> What does pandoc --version say?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 17:10Hugh Esco <hre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> My attempts to test this yield errors looking like this:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ```
>> >>>>> $ pandoc --defaults `pwd`/defaults --latex-engine=lualatex
>> >>>>> --template=my_client.latex my_source_file.pdc -o my_result_file.pdf
>> >>>>> pandoc: unrecognized option `--defaults'
>> >>>>> Try pandoc --help for more information.
>> >>>>> ```
>> >>>>> looking at the --help output yields this:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ```
>> >>>>> $ pandoc --help | grep default
>> >>>>> -D FORMAT --print-default-template=FORMAT
>> >>>>> --print-default-data-file=FILE
>> >>>>> --default-image-extension=extension
>> >>>>> ```
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> but no `--defaults` switch. What am I missing here, please?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -- Hugh
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 4:32:15 AM UTC-4 BPJ wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 10:25BPJ <b...-J3H7GcXPSITLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> You use the `mainfont`, `sansfont`, `monofont`, `mathfont`,
>> >>>>>>> `CJKmainfont`
>> >>>>>>> variables for the font names and the corresponding
>> `mainfontoptions`
>> >>>>>>> etc.
>> >>>>>>> variables. The latter are lists of strings with raw fontspec[^1]
>> >>>>>>> options in the format `'Option=Value'` or `'Option={Multi-word
>> value}'`. The
>> >>>>>>> easiest way is to specify them is in a defaults file[^2] like
>> this:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> from: markdown
>> >>>>>>> to: latex
>> >>>>>>> pdf-engine: xelatex
>> >>>>>>> variables:
>> >>>>>>> mainfont: Noto Serif
>> >>>>>>> sansfont: Noto Sans
>> >>>>>>> monofont: Noto Mono
>> >>>>>>> monofontoptions:
>> >>>>>>> - 'Scale=MatchLowercase'
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> For some reason the default latex template[^3] does not contain
>> any
>> >>>>>>> variable for `defaultfontfeatures` but
>> >>>>>>> `\defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}` is hard coded. In my
>> >>>>>>> custom
>> >>>>>>> template I have added that variable[^4]:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> $if(defaultfontfeatures)$
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> \mainfontfeatures{$for(mainfontfeatures)$$mainfontfeatures$$sep$,$endfor$}
>> >>>>>>> $else$
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> \defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}
>> >>>>>>> $endif$
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Sorry, a typo: it should be `defaultfontfeatures` rather than
>> >>>>>> `mainfontfeatures`. That's what happens when you copy the wrong
>> line and
>> >>>>>> use search/replace to make up for it! :-/
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Font embedding depends on your XeTeX/LuaTeX settings. Usually it
>> Just
>> >>>>>>> Works.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> [^1]: https://ctan.org/pkg/fontspec
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> [^2]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#default-files
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> [^3]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#templates
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> [^4]: https://git.io/J0UJS
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 06:56Hugh Esco <hre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> My tests seem to indicate that the fonts which are available to
>> me
>> >>>>>>>> are a function of the value of the `--latex-engine=` switch.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> If I set that switch to pdflatex (which seems to be the
>> default), I
>> >>>>>>>> can choose any font installed as a .sty file at this path:
>> >>>>>>>> `/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/psnfss/`, by setting a
>> value to
>> >>>>>>>> the fontenc key at the top of my markdown source file.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> But I have not been able to sort out how to access other fonts
>> >>>>>>>> installed at `/usr/share`, by setting the `--latex-engine` to
>> `lualatext`
>> >>>>>>>> or `xelatex`.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> All my tests seem to look alike, and changing my fonts has no
>> impact
>> >>>>>>>> on how the resulting pdf looks.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Can someone please point me to some documentation which would
>> help
>> >>>>>>>> me understand how to use the full range of fonts available on
>> this system,
>> >>>>>>>> suitable for which ever value I set to the `--latext-engine`
>> switch?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>> -- Hugh Esco
>> >>>>>>>>
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Re: How do I control and embed the fonts in my pdfs?

[Hugh Esco]

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I also tried adding that yaml to the template (no-go); and to 
`my_source_file.pdc`, which was the most promising, successfully producing 
a latex or pdf file, depending on the result file extension I provided.  I 
am now expirementing to determine if changing the font will change the 
result file.  




On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 11:09:35 AM UTC-4 Hugh Esco wrote:

> My attempts to test this yield errors looking like this:
>
> ```
> $ pandoc --defaults `pwd`/defaults --latex-engine=lualatex 
> --template=my_client.latex my_source_file.pdc -o my_result_file.pdf
> pandoc: unrecognized option `--defaults'
> Try pandoc --help for more information.
> ```
> looking at the --help output yields this:
>
> ```
> $ pandoc --help | grep default
>   -D FORMAT             --print-default-template=FORMAT                 
>                         --print-default-data-file=FILE                  
>                         --default-image-extension=extension
> ```
>
> but no `--defaults` switch.  What am I missing here, please?
>
> -- Hugh 
>
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 4:32:15 AM UTC-4 BPJ wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 10:25BPJ <b...-J3H7GcXPSITLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>>
>>> You use the `mainfont`, `sansfont`, `monofont`, `mathfont`, `CJKmainfont`
>>> variables for the font names and the corresponding `mainfontoptions` etc.
>>> variables. The latter are lists of strings with raw fontspec[^1] options 
>>> in the format `'Option=Value'` or `'Option={Multi-word value}'`. The
>>> easiest way is to specify them is in a defaults file[^2] like this:
>>>
>>>     from: markdown
>>>     to: latex
>>>     pdf-engine: xelatex
>>>     variables:
>>>       mainfont: Noto Serif
>>>       sansfont: Noto Sans
>>>       monofont: Noto Mono
>>>       monofontoptions:
>>>         - 'Scale=MatchLowercase'
>>>
>>> For some reason the default latex template[^3] does not contain any
>>> variable for `defaultfontfeatures` but
>>> `\defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}` is hard coded. In my custom
>>> template I have added that variable[^4]:
>>>
>>>     $if(defaultfontfeatures)$
>>>       
>>> \mainfontfeatures{$for(mainfontfeatures)$$mainfontfeatures$$sep$,$endfor$}
>>>     $else$
>>>
>>       \defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}
>>>     $endif$
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, a typo: it should be `defaultfontfeatures` rather than 
>> `mainfontfeatures`. That's what happens when you copy the wrong line and 
>> use search/replace to make up for it! :-/
>>
>>
>>> Font embedding depends on your XeTeX/LuaTeX settings. Usually it Just 
>>> Works.
>>>
>>>
>>> [^1]: https://ctan.org/pkg/fontspec
>>>
>>> [^2]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#default-files
>>>
>>> [^3]: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#templates
>>>
>>> [^4]: https://git.io/J0UJS
>>>
>>>
>>> Den mån 16 aug. 2021 06:56Hugh Esco <hre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>>>
>>>> My tests seem to indicate that the fonts which are available to me are 
>>>> a function of the value of the `--latex-engine=` switch.  
>>>>
>>>> If I set that switch to pdflatex (which seems to be the default), I can 
>>>> choose any font installed as a .sty file at this path: 
>>>> `/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/psnfss/`, by setting a value to 
>>>> the fontenc key at the top of my markdown source file.  
>>>>
>>>> But I have not been able to sort out how to access other fonts 
>>>> installed at `/usr/share`, by setting the `--latex-engine` to `lualatext` 
>>>> or `xelatex`.  
>>>>
>>>> All my tests seem to look alike, and changing my fonts has no impact on 
>>>> how the resulting pdf looks.  
>>>>
>>>> Can someone please point me to some documentation which would help me 
>>>> understand how to use the full range of fonts available on this system, 
>>>> suitable for which ever value I set to the `--latext-engine` switch?  
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> -- Hugh Esco 
>>>>
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