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[2607:f8b0:4864:20::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h143si76203vkh.1.2019.12.09.16.04.33 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 09 Dec 2019 16:04:33 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::22f; Original-Received: by mail-oi1-x22f.google.com with SMTP id j22so8118302oij.9 for ; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 16:04:33 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:9a2:: with SMTP id e2mr1683878oig.1.1575936273120; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 16:04:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=fR2h2o6U; spf=pass (google.com: domain of melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.text.pandoc:24025 Archived-At: --000000000000bf840e05994e4198 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you mean the font I used it's Noto Serif. /bpj Den m=C3=A5n 9 dec. 2019 20:58John MacFarlane skrev: > > Well, I like the simple reversed pilcrows best, I think (without the 'd')= . > > I can't decide which one I like best, but I'm starting to like > this more slender version better than the font awesome one, > especially in a box as in your example. > (Which font was that?) > > Benct Philip Jonsson writes: > > > I forgot two of the attachments. Here they are. > > > > On 2019-12-05 14:19, BPJ wrote: > >> I like the reversed pilcrow a lot! > >> > >> To me it also suggests that Pandoc is ~~subverting~~ reversing the > hegemony > >> of WYSIWYG "word processors" which I hate with a gusto! :-) > >> > >> My two (three) worthless coins: > >> > >> 1. I think the idea that you can use the (reversed) pilcrow from any > font > >> is an important one. > >> > >> 2. Any graphics editor worth its salt (including LaTeX's *graphicx* > >> package!) should AFAIK be able to flip a text box/object so that you c= an > >> reverse the ordinary pilcrow from any font on the fly. I know for a fa= ct > >> that Inkscape can, which is perhaps the most important as it is free a= nd > >> open source, since I have flipped and rotated text objects containing > >> various Unicode arrows in it not too long ago. > >> > >> > >> 3. Perhaps the logo should be a black/dark square with a white/light > >> reverse pilcrow, similar to the [M=E2=86=93] logo for Markdown used e.= g. on > Stack > >> Exchange. I'm thinking that it looks more like a logo that way. At > least it > >> should be a sanctioned variant, as should [=E2=81=8B] =E2=80=94 a reve= rse pilcrow in > square > >> brackets, to make it stand out better. > >> > >> Den tors 5 dec. 2019 04:31Kolen Cheung > skrev: > >> > >>> For this one, may be moving the d diagonally (lower left) a bit such > that > >>> those straight lines line on a square? > >>> > >>> On the other hand, after @jgm said it, =E2=81=8B does look like =CE= =A0D, short form > of > >>> PanDoc (=CE=A0=E1=BE=B0=CE=BDDoc), also has a meaning of "all documen= ts." So may be it > can be > >>> viewed as the D already embedded in =E2=81=8B and no need to repeat t= hat. > >>> > >>> Does any other feel also that the D should have a hole in it? > >>> > >>> P.S. haven't seen =CE=A0 used as =E2=88=80. Which field? > >>> > >>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 11:54:20 AM UTC-8, allefeld wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Ok, maybe the trimming was a bit too much. How about leaving a serif= : > >>>> > >>>> [image: ReversedPilcrowDoubleFlippedTrimmedSerif.svg.png] > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >>> "pandoc-discuss" group. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, sen= d > an > >>> email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > >>> To view this discussion on the web visit > >>> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/a28791eb-2ff1-4cf0-854f-= 28dc476dd523%40googlegroups.com > >>> < > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/a28791eb-2ff1-4cf0-854f-= 28dc476dd523%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dfooter > > > >>> . > >>> > >> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/d8e2a245-57b6-148d-971f-= 5ac0c0d295fd%40gmail.com > . > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. 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If you mean the font I used it's Noto Serif.

/bpj

Den m=C3=A5n 9 dec. 2019 20= :58John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org= > skrev:

Well, I like the simple reversed pilcrows best, I think (without the 'd= ').

I can't decide which one I like best, but I'm starting to like
this more slender version better than the font awesome one,
especially in a box as in your example.
(Which font was that?)

Benct Philip Jonsson <melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:

> I forgot two of the attachments.=C2=A0 Here they are.
>
> On 2019-12-05 14:19, BPJ wrote:
>> I like the reversed pilcrow a lot!
>>
>> To me it also suggests that Pandoc is ~~subverting~~ reversing the= hegemony
>> of WYSIWYG "word processors" which I hate with a gusto! = :-)
>>
>> My two (three) worthless coins:
>>
>> 1.=C2=A0 I think the idea that you can use the (reversed) pilcrow = from any font
>> is an important one.
>>
>> 2.=C2=A0 Any graphics editor worth its salt (including LaTeX's= *graphicx*
>> package!) should AFAIK be able to flip a text box/object so that y= ou can
>> reverse the ordinary pilcrow from any font on the fly. I know for = a fact
>> that Inkscape can, which is perhaps the most important as it is fr= ee and
>> open source, since I have flipped and rotated text objects contain= ing
>> various Unicode arrows in it not too long ago.
>>
>>
>> 3.=C2=A0 Perhaps the logo should be a black/dark square with a whi= te/light
>> reverse pilcrow, similar to the [M=E2=86=93] logo for Markdown use= d e.g. on Stack
>> Exchange. I'm thinking that it looks more like a logo that way= . At least it
>> should be a sanctioned variant, as should [=E2=81=8B] =E2=80=94 a = reverse pilcrow in square
>> brackets, to make it stand out better.
>>
>> Den tors 5 dec. 2019 04:31Kolen Cheung <christian.kolen@= gmail.com> skrev:
>>
>>> For this one, may be moving the d diagonally (lower left) a bi= t such that
>>> those straight lines line on a square?
>>>
>>> On the other hand, after @jgm said it, =E2=81=8B does look lik= e =CE=A0D, short form of
>>> PanDoc (=CE=A0=E1=BE=B0=CE=BDDoc), also has a meaning of "= ;all documents." So may be it can be
>>> viewed as the D already embedded in =E2=81=8B and no need to r= epeat that.
>>>
>>> Does any other feel also that the D should have a hole in it?<= br> >>>
>>> P.S. haven't seen =CE=A0 used as =E2=88=80. Which field? >>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 11:54:20 AM UTC-8, allefeld = wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok, maybe the trimming was a bit too much. How about leavi= ng a serif:
>>>>
>>>> [image: ReversedPilcrowDoubleFlippedTrimmedSerif.svg.png]<= br> >>>>
>>>> --
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>>> .
>>>
>>
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