Re: Error compiling with icu support / possible workaround?

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I tried this out with the latest Unicode::Collate::Locale

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https://metacpan.org/pod/release/SADAHIRO/Unicode-Collate-1.29/Collate/Locale.pm
>

With all of fr_FR fr_CA fr_BE fr_Ch and both Normalization Form C and
Normalization Form D and it turns out that fr_CA actually is different!

Locale: fr_FR; getlocale: default
Normalization: NFC
Sorted: cote coté côte côté
Normalization: NFD
Sorted: cote coté côte côté
Locale: fr_CA; getlocale: fr_CA
Normalization: NFC
Sorted: cote côte coté côté
Normalization: NFD
Sorted: cote côte coté côté
Locale: fr_BE; getlocale: default
Normalization: NFC
Sorted: cote coté côte côté
Normalization: NFD
Sorted: cote coté côte côté
Locale: fr_CH; getlocale: default
Normalization: NFC
Sorted: cote coté côte côté
Normalization: NFD
Sorted: cote coté côte côté

If you want to try the script you will need to install the Unicode::Collate
CPAN distribution first, and perl if you are not on a Unixy system. See:

<http://www.cpan.org/modules/INSTALL.html>

<https://www.perl.org/get.html>

I recommend Strawberry Perl on Windows.

Den ons 7 apr. 2021 01:39John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> skrev:

>
> I just checked my 2006 Le Robert Micro: it has
>
> cote < côte < côté
>
> coté appears as a subheading of cote, so I'm not sure it's
> clear from this how it is to be ordered.  Not inconsistent
> with the French Academy anyway.
>
> Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Honestly, these are such subtleties that, as a native French speaker, I
> have no precise ideas about it. I would say that accents are only a
> secondary criterium for sorting (cote < côte < coteau). Actually the
> Wikipedia page about the French alphabet agrees with that: "diacritics and
> ligatures are taken into account only at a third level, after the second
> level (case). [...] In Quebec French diacritics are considered more
> important than case." (I hope my translation is not too bad.) Unfortunately
> they give no reference. As for the "last syllable" rule, I have never heard
> of it, but the French Academy's dictionary online has cote < côte < coté <
> côté (https://www.dictionnaire-academie.fr/article/A9C4445?history=2).
> Anyway I guess that it rarely applies. I will check a recent Robert
> whenever possible (maybe tomorrow): they introduced a lot of changes in
> 2010.
> >
> > The French Association for Normalization produced a norm in 1969 about
> proper names' sorting, but it is behind a paywall and I am not sure that it
> is really in use.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Bastien
> >
> > Le Tuesday 06 April 2021 à 04:42:40PM, 'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss a
> écrit :
> >> Concerning French, I checked a few more sources, and some of them seem
> to hold different views on French collation:
> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_fran%C3%A7ais states that
> diacritics should be disregarded when sorting, except in Quebec French,
> where accented characters are to appear after their unaccented
> counterparts. No "last syllable" rule is mentioned at all. In addition, in
> a printed French dictionary, Le Nouveau Petit Robert (1994), I couldn’t
> find any explicit rules on sorting, but entries are ordered "cote < coté <
> côte < côté". Hopefully some native speakers of French will chime in here.
> >>
> >> As to supporting multiple collations, I tend to think that the default
> collation (which usually seems to follow the most recent rules for a given
> language) would usually be sufficient.
> >>
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#!/usr/bin/env perl

use 5.014;
# use utf8;
use utf8::all;
use strict;
use warnings;
use warnings FATAL => 'utf8';
use autodie;

# use open qw[ :utf8 :std ];

use Unicode::Collate::Locale;

my @nfd = qw[ côté cote côte coté ];
my @nfc = qw[ côté cote côte coté ];

my @locales = qw[ fr_FR fr_CA fr_BE fr_CH ];

my @norms = (
  [ NFC => \@nfc ],
  [ NFD => \@nfd ],
);

for my $locale ( @locales ) {
  my $coll = Unicode::Collate::Locale->new(locale => $locale);
  say sprintf "Locale: $locale; getlocale: %s", $coll->getlocale;
  for my $norm ( @norms ) {
    my($name, $words) = @$norm;
    say "Normalization: $name";
    my @sorted = $coll->sort(@$words);
    say "Sorted: @sorted";
  }
}