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[2a00:1450:400c:c09::243]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d199si700941wmd.1.2016.12.14.08.45.39 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 14 Dec 2016 08:45:39 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::243 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c09::243; Original-Received: by mail-wm0-x243.google.com with SMTP id u144so363014wmu.0 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 08:45:39 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.25.67.12 with SMTP id q12mr3740652lfa.139.1481733938477; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 08:45:38 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.114.21.10 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 08:45:36 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.114.21.10 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 08:45:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8f87b3f6-41d0-47d7-a6fe-117892a30c46-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> X-Original-Sender: melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::243 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.text.pandoc:16419 Archived-At: --f403045ea4be0e00820543a11128 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 To a normal user (I.e. you aren't a Pandoc contributor or filter author) the AST is an implementation detail which you don't interact with. The normal user experience is pandoc -f markdown -t html`, i.e. you input a document in one markup format and get (a file) in anotheir markup format (possibly zipped together with sundry other files) as output, without any intermediate file or files. There is no point in creating a false impression that there always must be an intermediate file. In fact that may scare off potential normal users. To them the thing which sets pandoc apart from other light markup processors is that it supports conversion back and forth between multiple markup formats, and the logo should emphasize that. The logo needs to be intelligible and meaningful to the less geeky users which hopefully are in majority. /bpj Den 14 dec 2016 01:15 skrev "Kolen Cheung" : > A point might worth mentioning is that if we wanted to put arrows in the > logo, pointing arrows from document to document does not reflect the > pandoc's design. One of my sketch above has an attempt to use arrows while > reflecting the design of pandoc: the arrows all point to the center, > representing the AST. 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To a normal user (I.e. you aren't a Pandoc contributo= r or filter author) the AST is an implementation detail which you don't= interact with. The normal user experience is pandoc -f markdown -t html`, = i.e. you input a document in one markup format and get (a file) in anotheir= markup format (possibly zipped together with sundry other files) as output= , without any intermediate file or files. There is no point in creating a f= alse impression that there always must be an intermediate file. In fact tha= t may scare off potential normal users. To them the thing which sets pandoc= apart from other light markup processors is that it supports conversion ba= ck and forth between multiple markup formats, and the logo should emphasize= that. The logo needs to be intelligible and meaningful to the less geeky u= sers which hopefully are in majority.

/bpj

Den 14 dec 2016 01:15 skrev "Kolen Cheung" <christian.kolen-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:
A point might worth me= ntioning is that if we wanted to put arrows in the logo, pointing arrows fr= om document to document does not reflect the pandoc's design. One of my= sketch above has an attempt to use arrows while reflecting the design of p= andoc: the arrows all point to the center, representing the AST. That conce= pt might not be very good, but I think we better not to use arrows if those= arrows mislead people about pandoc's design (and philosophy).

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