general attributes and yaml metadata block

general attributes and yaml metadata block

[Christian Müller]

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I would like to use attributes like the following

*something*{.timing}

which should render to

<em class="timing">something</em> or alternatively <span 
class="timing"><em>something</em></span>

According to documentation I need the attributes extension. When I do --from=markdown+attributes 
I get

The extension attributes is not supported for markdown

When I try commonmark --from=commonmark+attributes instead it does work. 
However, I also need the Yaml meta data block. --from=commonmark+attributes+yaml_metadata_block 
yields

The extension yaml_metadata_block is not supported for commonmark

Am I doing something wrong? I'd rather stay with markdown (it's an older 
document)

(using the official pandoc build for windows)

pandoc.exe 2.10.1
Compiled with pandoc-types 1.21, texmath 0.12.0.2, skylighting 0.8.5

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Re: general attributes and yaml metadata block

[John MacFarlane]

You're doing it right -- but currently no format supports
both yaml metadata and attributes.

When we add suppport for yaml metadata blocks to commonmark,
you'll be able to use that.

Christian Müller <ch_819-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org> writes:

> I would like to use attributes like the following
>
> *something*{.timing}
>
> which should render to
>
> <em class="timing">something</em> or alternatively <span 
> class="timing"><em>something</em></span>
>
> According to documentation I need the attributes extension. When I do --from=markdown+attributes 
> I get
>
> The extension attributes is not supported for markdown
>
> When I try commonmark --from=commonmark+attributes instead it does work. 
> However, I also need the Yaml meta data block. --from=commonmark+attributes+yaml_metadata_block 
> yields
>
> The extension yaml_metadata_block is not supported for commonmark
>
> Am I doing something wrong? I'd rather stay with markdown (it's an older 
> document)
>
> (using the official pandoc build for windows)
>
> pandoc.exe 2.10.1
> Compiled with pandoc-types 1.21, texmath 0.12.0.2, skylighting 0.8.5
>
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Re: general attributes and yaml metadata block

[ch_...-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org]

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why aren't attributes supported in "normal" markdown?

John MacFarlane schrieb am Freitag, 21. August 2020 um 22:51:31 UTC+2:

>
> You're doing it right -- but currently no format supports
> both yaml metadata and attributes.
>
> When we add suppport for yaml metadata blocks to commonmark,
> you'll be able to use that.
>
> Christian Müller <ch_...-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> > I would like to use attributes like the following
> >
> > *something*{.timing}
> >
> > which should render to
> >
> > <em class="timing">something</em> or alternatively <span 
> > class="timing"><em>something</em></span>
> >
> > According to documentation I need the attributes extension. When I do 
> --from=markdown+attributes 
> > I get
> >
> > The extension attributes is not supported for markdown
> >
> > When I try commonmark --from=commonmark+attributes instead it does work. 
> > However, I also need the Yaml meta data block. 
> --from=commonmark+attributes+yaml_metadata_block 
> > yields
> >
> > The extension yaml_metadata_block is not supported for commonmark
> >
> > Am I doing something wrong? I'd rather stay with markdown (it's an older 
> > document)
> >
> > (using the official pandoc build for windows)
> >
> > pandoc.exe 2.10.1
> > Compiled with pandoc-types 1.21, texmath 0.12.0.2, skylighting 0.8.5
> >
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Re: general attributes and yaml metadata block

[mb21]

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header_attributes, link_attributes and a few more (div, span etc) are 
supported on normal markdown. but currently not on the emphasis element.

On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 10:34:19 AM UTC+2 ch_...-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org wrote:

> why aren't attributes supported in "normal" markdown?
>
> John MacFarlane schrieb am Freitag, 21. August 2020 um 22:51:31 UTC+2:
>
>>
>> You're doing it right -- but currently no format supports 
>> both yaml metadata and attributes. 
>>
>> When we add suppport for yaml metadata blocks to commonmark, 
>> you'll be able to use that. 
>>
>> Christian Müller <ch_...-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org> writes: 
>>
>> > I would like to use attributes like the following 
>> > 
>> > *something*{.timing} 
>> > 
>> > which should render to 
>> > 
>> > <em class="timing">something</em> or alternatively <span 
>> > class="timing"><em>something</em></span> 
>> > 
>> > According to documentation I need the attributes extension. When I do 
>> --from=markdown+attributes 
>> > I get 
>> > 
>> > The extension attributes is not supported for markdown 
>> > 
>> > When I try commonmark --from=commonmark+attributes instead it does 
>> work. 
>> > However, I also need the Yaml meta data block. 
>> --from=commonmark+attributes+yaml_metadata_block 
>> > yields 
>> > 
>> > The extension yaml_metadata_block is not supported for commonmark 
>> > 
>> > Am I doing something wrong? I'd rather stay with markdown (it's an 
>> older 
>> > document) 
>> > 
>> > (using the official pandoc build for windows) 
>> > 
>> > pandoc.exe 2.10.1 
>> > Compiled with pandoc-types 1.21, texmath 0.12.0.2, skylighting 0.8.5 
>> > 
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>>
>>
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Re: general attributes and yaml metadata block

[John MacFarlane]

"ch_...-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org" <ch_819-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org> writes:

> why aren't attributes supported in "normal" markdown?

Eventually they will be, when I've added enough extensions
to the commonmark parser that it can replace the current
markdown parser.

Re: general attributes and yaml metadata block

[BPJ]

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Den lör 22 aug. 2020 18:09John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> skrev:

> "ch_...-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org" <ch_819-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> > why aren't attributes supported in "normal" markdown?
>
> Eventually they will be, when I've added enough extensions
> to the commonmark parser that it can replace the current
> markdown parser.
>

Does that mean that you will drop some extensions? I hope not. Probably
every extension is essential to someone's workflow.


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Re: general attributes and yaml metadata block

[John MacFarlane]

BPJ <melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:

>> Eventually they will be, when I've added enough extensions
>> to the commonmark parser that it can replace the current
>> markdown parser.
>>
>
> Does that mean that you will drop some extensions? I hope not. Probably
> every extension is essential to someone's workflow.

The idea would be to support most of them.  There may be a few
uncommonly used ones that we'd consider dropping (in particular,
extensions that are incompatible with the core commonmark spec).
In any case, we'd keep the legacy parser available as an option
for a while, to ease the transition.

Re: general attributes and yaml metadata block

[BPJ]

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Den lör 22 aug. 2020 20:07John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> skrev:

> BPJ <melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> >> Eventually they will be, when I've added enough extensions
> >> to the commonmark parser that it can replace the current
> >> markdown parser.
> >>
> >
> > Does that mean that you will drop some extensions? I hope not. Probably
> > every extension is essential to someone's workflow.
>
> The idea would be to support most of them.  There may be a few
> uncommonly used ones that we'd consider dropping (in particular,
> extensions that are incompatible with the core commonmark spec).
> In any case, we'd keep the legacy parser available as an option
> for a while, to ease the transition.
>

Do you have any particular ones in mind. I guess that at the moment I'm
most afraid of losing `four_space_rule` since it is so to speak a
compatibility extension. OTOH maybe if I consistently use steps of 4 in my
source (which I already do, e.g. 3 spaces after a list bullet) I won't
notice much difference.

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Re: general attributes and yaml metadata block

[John MacFarlane]

> Do you have any particular ones in mind. I guess that at the moment I'm
> most afraid of losing `four_space_rule` since it is so to speak a
> compatibility extension. OTOH maybe if I consistently use steps of 4 in my
> source (which I already do, e.g. 3 spaces after a list bullet) I won't
> notice much difference.

I think that's right, except in unusual cases (e.g., list numbers
greater than two digits).

999. hello
    four-space rule says that content starts here

999. hello
     commonmark says it starts here.

Re: general attributes and yaml metadata block

[BPJ]

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Den mån 24 aug. 2020 18:56John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> skrev:

>
> > Do you have any particular ones in mind. I guess that at the moment I'm
> > most afraid of losing `four_space_rule` since it is so to speak a
> > compatibility extension. OTOH maybe if I consistently use steps of 4 in
> my
> > source (which I already do, e.g. 3 spaces after a list bullet) I won't
> > notice much difference.
>
> I think that's right, except in unusual cases (e.g., list numbers
> greater than two digits).
>
> 999. hello
>     four-space rule says that content starts here
>
> 999. hello
>      commonmark says it starts here.
>

I'm afraid I will never get used to that! The four-space rule, or rather
hitting tab, has become part of my muscle memory. I'm probably not the only
one.

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