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[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i2-20020a05620a27c200b0076709fdb678si966051qkp.4.2023.08.02.12.33.07 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 02 Aug 2023 12:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2c as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2c; Original-Received: by mail-yb1-xb2c.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-d3d729a08e4so160904276.3 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2023 12:33:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a25:acc9:0:b0:bcb:9b43:5a89 with SMTP id x9-20020a25acc9000000b00bcb9b435a89mr16070862ybd.61.1691004787402; Wed, 02 Aug 2023 12:33:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20221208 header.b=mQbqIeei; spf=pass (google.com: domain of melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.text.pandoc:33017 Archived-At: --000000000000aaab690601f5bba9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You can swap single/double quotes in the Pandoc AST with a simple filter: ``````lua local swap =3D { DoubleQuote =3D 'SingleQuote', SingleQuote =3D 'DoubleQuote' } function Quoted (elem) elem.quotetype =3D swap[elem.quotetype] return elem end `````` Den ons 2 aug. 2023 19:59Thomas Hodgson skrev: > I wonder whether it would be feasible/desirable for the Context writer to > change its mapping from DoubleQuote/SingleQuote to `\quotation`/`\quote` > based on the language of the document? (And the same for > `\enquote`/`\enquote*` for LaTeX.) > > On Wednesday, 2 August 2023 at 18:27:38 UTC+2 Thomas Hodgson wrote: > >> Thank you. >> >> I tried this (included in my header) and I get the result I want visuall= y >> in the PDF: >> >> ``` >> \setuplanguage[en-gb][ >> leftquotation=3D=E2=80=9C, >> rightquotation=3D=E2=80=9D, >> leftquote=3D=E2=80=98, >> rightquote=3D=E2=80=99, >> ] >> ``` >> >> On Wednesday, 2 August 2023 at 16:55:36 UTC+2 Bastien DUMONT wrote: >> >>> As you saw in the ConTeXt outputs, whatever language you set in the >>> metadata, Pandoc will always identify double quotes as primary quotes a= nd >>> single quotes as secondary quotes. How they are rendered in PDF depends= on >>> ConTeXt. To alter the rendering of British English, you will need to us= e >>> the macro \setuplanguage ( >>> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplanguage). >>> >>> Le Wednesday 02 August 2023 =C3=A0 07:10:40AM, Thomas Hodgson a =C3=A9c= rit : >>> > When I have a markdown file like this: >>> > >>> > ``` >>> > 'foo' >>> > "bar" >>> > ``` >>> > >>> > The result of `pandoc --to=3Dcontext foo.md` is `\quote{foo} >>> \quotation{bar}`. >>> > The result of `pandoc --to=3Dcontext --output=3Dfoo.pdf foo.md` is wh= at I >>> would >>> > expect: single quotes around 'foo' and double quotes around 'bar'. Th= e >>> output >>> > of `pandoc --metadata=3Dlang:en-GB --to=3Dcontext foo.md` is the same= . >>> But, the >>> > output of `pandoc --metadata=3Dlang:en-GB --to=3Dcontext --output=3Df= oo.pdf >>> foo.md` >>> > has double quotes around 'foo' and single quotes around 'bar'. >>> > >>> > I could solve this by using double quotes where I want single, and >>> vice versa. >>> > But that will give the wrong result for HTML from the same source. >>> Also, I'm >>> > sure that I would forget half the time. >>> > >>> > I assume that this happens because Pandoc treats the double quote as >>> the 'top' >>> > level of quotes, which in US English is a double quote and in UK >>> English (in >>> > this case, confusingly) is a single quote. I don't think it's a bug, >>> therefore. >>> > >>> > I think that the same thing happens with csquotes and LaTeX. But ther= e >>> I don't >>> > turn on csquotes. >>> > >>> > Is there some way to get the behaviour I want while still using >>> British >>> > English? >>> > >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> > "pandoc-discuss" group. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, sen= d >>> an email >>> > to [1]pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >>> > To view this discussion on the web visit [2] >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ >>> > pandoc-discuss/6bf5b865-b98a-4eab-ac15-9ca58d38e6cfn% >>> 40googlegroups.com. >>> > >>> > References: >>> > >>> > [1] mailto:pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org >>> > [2] >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/6bf5b865-b98a-4eab-ac1= 5-9ca58d38e6cfn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dfooter >>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/a1f39c5a-624a-48d7-af9a-= d4b7dd66f3bbn%40googlegroups.com > > . > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/= pandoc-discuss/CADAJKhCx%3DxbPgcQF7EQef4keqpiV%2BjNywXoPf%3DLpAaBL%2BhYefQ%= 40mail.gmail.com. --000000000000aaab690601f5bba9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You can swap single/double quotes in the Pandoc AST with = a simple filter:

``````lua
local swap =3D {
=C2=A0 DoubleQuote =3D 'SingleQuote',
=C2= =A0 SingleQuote =3D 'DoubleQuote'
}
function Quoted (elem)
=C2=A0 elem.qu= otetype =3D swap[elem.quotetype]
=C2=A0 return elem<= /div>
end
``````
<= br>
Den ons= 2 aug. 2023 19:59Thomas Hodgson <thomas.hodgson-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
I wonder whether it would be feasible/desirable for the Context = writer to change its mapping from DoubleQuote/SingleQuote to `\quotation`/`= \quote` based on the language of the document? (And the same for `\enquote`= /`\enquote*` for LaTeX.)

On Wednesday, 2 August 2023 at 18:27:38 UTC+2 Thomas= Hodgson wrote:
T= hank you.

I tried this (included in my header) and= I get the result I want visually in the PDF:

```<= /div>
\setuplanguage[en-gb][
=C2=A0 leftquotation=3D=E2=80=9C,
= =C2=A0 rightquotation=3D=E2=80=9D,
=C2=A0 leftquote=3D=E2=80=98,
=C2= =A0 rightquote=3D=E2=80=99,
]
```

On Wednesday, 2 A= ugust 2023 at 16:55:36 UTC+2 Bastien DUMONT wrote:
As you saw in the ConTeXt outputs, whatever la= nguage you set in the metadata, Pandoc will always identify double quotes a= s primary quotes and single quotes as secondary quotes. How they are render= ed in PDF depends on ConTeXt. To alter the rendering of British English, yo= u will need to use the macro \setuplanguage (https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplanguage).

Le Wednesday 02 August 2023 =C3=A0 07:10:40AM, Thomas Hodgson a =C3=A9c= rit :
> When I have a markdown file like this:
>=20
> ```
> 'foo'
> "bar"
> ```
>=20
> The result of `pandoc --to=3Dcontext foo.md` is `\quote{foo} \quot= ation{bar}`.
> The result of `pandoc --to=3Dcontext --output=3Dfoo.pdf foo.md` is= what I would
> expect: single quotes around 'foo' and double quotes aroun= d 'bar'. The output
> of `pandoc --metadata=3Dlang:en-GB --to=3Dcontext foo.md` is the s= ame. But, the
> output of `pandoc --metadata=3Dlang:en-GB --to=3Dcontext --output= =3Dfoo.pdf foo.md`
> has double quotes around 'foo' and single quotes around &#= 39;bar'.
>=20
> I could solve this by using double quotes where I want single, and= vice versa.
> But that will give the wrong result for HTML from the same source.= Also, I'm
> sure that I would forget half the time.
>=20
> I assume that this happens because Pandoc treats the double quote = as the 'top'
> level of quotes, which in US English is a double quote and in UK E= nglish (in
> this case, confusingly) is a single quote. I don't think it= 9;s a bug, therefore.
>=20
> I think that the same thing happens with csquotes and LaTeX. But t= here I don't
> turn on csquotes.
>=20
> Is there some way to get the behaviour I want while still using Br= itish
> English?
>=20
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google= Groups
> "pandoc-discuss" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, = send an email
> to [1]pandoc-discus...@googlegroups= .com.
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> pandoc-discuss/6bf5b865-b98a-4eab-ac15-9ca58d38e6cfn%40go= oglegroups.com.
>=20
> References:
>=20
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