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(And Pandoc allows you to omit the quotes around the attribute value if the value is a valid name.) ``````lua local function handler(elem) if elem.attributes.l then elem.attributes.lang =3D elem.attributes.l elem.attributes.l =3D nil return elem end return nil end return { { Div =3D handler, Span =3D handler, Link =3D handler, Header =3D handler, } } `````` Den m=C3=A5n 13 mars 2023 21:47Pablo Rodr=C3=ADguez skrev: > On 3/13/23 20:43, Bastien DUMONT wrote: > > {:de} will be parsed as a string, not as an attribute list. > > Attributes are of the form key=3Dvalue. In this case, you can write > > (-f commonmark+attributes): > > > > _Deutsch_{lang=3Dde} > > > > What you propose is a syntax extension > > Many thanks for your reply, Bastien. > > I know there is a way to full attribute specification, since the > original proposal is almost a decade old > (https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/895 [which was superseded by > https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/3451]). > > > and it would be quite difficult to write a filter taking into > > account multiple attributes and cases where the {...} string is > > immediately followed by other characters. > > Well, I see what I was missing here. > > > Maybe a custom reader would be better suited. > > I wouldn=E2=80=99t mind to add this to (a custom version of) djot. But I = clearly > lack the knowledge to do that. > > > But it would be easier to stick to existing conventions! > > I=E2=80=99m used to the convention (although I=E2=80=98d rather avoid it,= since it tend > to mix languages a lot), but when explaining CommonMark/Markdown to > newcomers, this is one important exception to lightweight markup. > > And believe me, it is not easy to explain the key=3D"value" attribute > syntax (it doesn=E2=80=99t make it easier to ignore the quotes) to people= with > practically no computer background at all. Because this goes on top of a > bunch of new things for them (which would make anyone explode). > > Many thanks for your help, > > Pablo > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/103a971c-503b-e15e-8e1d-= 2b9700099138%40web.de > . > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. 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At least you can abbreviate `[rien]{lang=3Dfr}` to `[rien= ]{l=3Dfr}` --- a reduction from five to two chars instead of from five to o= ne is at least better than none! (And Pandoc allows you to omit the quotes = around the attribute value if the value is a valid name.)
=
``````lua
local function handler(elem)
=C2=A0 if elem.attr= ibutes.l then
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 elem.attributes.lang =3D= elem.attributes.l
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 elem.attributes.l = =3D nil
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 return elem
=C2=A0 end
=C2=A0 return nil
end

return {
<= div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 {
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Div =3D hand= ler,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Span =3D handler,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Link =3D handler,
=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 Header =3D handler,
=C2=A0 }
}
``````

Den m=C3=A5n 13 mars 2023 21= :47Pablo Rodr=C3=ADguez <oinos-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org> skrev:
On 3/13/23 20:43, Bast= ien DUMONT wrote:
> {:de} will be parsed as a string, not as an attribute list.
> Attributes are of the form key=3Dvalue. In this case, you can write > (-f commonmark+attributes):
>
> _Deutsch_{lang=3Dde}
>
> What you propose is a syntax extension

Many thanks for your reply, Bastien.

I know there is a way to full attribute specification, since the
original proposal is almost a decade old
(https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/895 [wh= ich was superseded by
https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/3451]).

> and it would be quite difficult to write a filter taking into
> account multiple attributes and cases where the {...} string is
> immediately followed by other characters.

Well, I see what I was missing here.

> Maybe a custom reader would be better suited.

I wouldn=E2=80=99t mind to add this to (a custom version of) djot. But I cl= early
lack the knowledge to do that.

> But it would be easier to stick to existing conventions!

I=E2=80=99m used to the convention (although I=E2=80=98d rather avoid it, s= ince it tend
to mix languages a lot), but when explaining CommonMark/Markdown to
newcomers, this is one important exception to lightweight markup.

And believe me, it is not easy to explain the key=3D"value" attri= bute
syntax (it doesn=E2=80=99t make it easier to ignore the quotes) to people w= ith
practically no computer background at all. Because this goes on top of a bunch of new things for them (which would make anyone explode).

Many thanks for your help,

Pablo

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