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Anyone have thoughts about this? Someone should probably put an issue on the bug tracker for this. ______________ That seems reasonable but please note that anything which contains literal square brackets or asterisks has to be escaped anyway, so more or less escaping will be required for many of us. Admittedly historical linguistics and comparative philology (my onetime field, which I still interact with to some extent) use more literal square brackets and asterisks than most, but maybe the most reasonable solution would be section in the manual which lists common cases where escaping is required. Den 6 aug 2017 18:03 skrev "John MacFarlane" : Thanks (and apologies if I missed the files before). Simple repro here: ``` hi[^fn3] [^fn3]: [@Alhazen1572-qk, V.9]: "competentius est et rationabilius, ut appareat supra perpendiculum, quam extra eam." ``` This yields an empty footnote. Why? Because the footnote contains: ``` [@Alhazen1572-qk, V.9]: "competentius est et rationabilius, ut appareat supra perpendiculum, quam extra eam." ``` which pandoc is parsing as a reference link definition! Perhaps pandoc should not allow reference link definitions that start with `@`, since these conflict with citations? Anyone have thoughts about this? Someone should probably put an issue on the bug tracker for this. In the mean time, a workaround is to backslash-escape the colon: [@Alhazen1572-qk, V.9]\: "competentius... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. 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JGM wrote:
Perhaps pandoc should not allow reference link definitions=
that start with `@`, since these conf= lict with citations?
Anyone have thoug= hts about this?=C2=A0 Someone should probably
put an issue on the bug tracker for this.
______________

That seems reasonable but please = note that anything which contains literal square brackets or asterisks has = to be escaped anyway, so more or less escaping will be required for many of= us. Admittedly historical linguistics and comparative philology (my onetim= e field, which I still interact with to some extent) use more literal squar= e brackets and asterisks than most, but maybe the most reasonable solution = would be section in the manual which lists common cases where escaping is r= equired.

Den 6 aug 2017 18:03 skrev "John MacFarlane" <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>:
Thanks (and apologies if I missed the files before).=

Simple repro here:

```
hi[^fn3]

[^fn3]: [@Alhazen1572-qk, V.9]: "competentius est et rationabilius, ut= appareat supra perpendiculum, quam extra eam."
```

This yields an empty footnote.=C2=A0 Why?=C2=A0 Because the footnote
contains:

```
[@Alhazen1572-qk, V.9]: "competentius est et rationabilius, ut apparea= t supra perpendiculum, quam extra eam."
```

which pandoc is parsing as a reference link definition!

Perhaps pandoc should not allow reference link definitions
that start with `@`, since these conflict with citations?
Anyone have thoughts about this?=C2=A0 Someone should probably
put an issue on the bug tracker for this.

In the mean time, a workaround is to backslash-escape the
colon:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0[@Alhazen1572-qk, V.9]\: "competentius...



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