Re: Can a given publisher's citations be listed first?

["'William Lupton' via pandoc-discuss" <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>]

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I've made some changes and created
https://github.com/pandoc-ext/multibib/pull/8 for discussion.

The changes in the PR work for my use case, but in fact I've decided to
stick with the 'original-publisher' approach that I mentioned earlier. I
control the necessary bibliography files and this approach doesn't require
any changes to documents.

I created https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/9077 to suggest a
utils.citeproc() 'quiet' flag.

On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 11:27, William Lupton <wlupton-QSt+ys/nuMyEUIsrzH9SikB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
wrote:

> Ah, I took a look and it seems that they are basically the same
> (multiple-bibliographies -> multibib in the transition to pandoc-ext) but
> their commit histories look different so there's obviously a bit more to it.
>
> Anyway, multiple-bibliographies avoids the problem by always running
> citeproc as a JSON filter (via pandoc --citeproc for recent pandoc
> versions) and passing the --quiet flag.
>
> I guess I'll use multiple-biographies for now, and look into how best to
> update pandoc-ext/multibib, which really should be the "official" version.
>
> Any thoughts from anyone on whether utils.citeproc() could provide a
> 'quiet' argument (or equivalent)?
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 11:11, Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Actually I meant this filter:
>> https://github.com/pandoc/lua-filters/tree/master/multiple-bibliographies
>>
>> It seems to be an older version of multibib, but I never had the problemm
>> you report with it.
>>
>> Le Monday 11 September 2023 à 10:59:26AM, 'William Lupton' via
>> pandoc-discuss a écrit :
>> > I'm hitting a (non-fatal but annoying) problem. The multibib filter
>> first runs
>> > citeproc to generate a list of all citations, then it reruns citeproc
>> once for
>> > each supplied bibliography file, and this generates warnings for the
>> citations
>> > in the _other_ bibliography files.
>> >
>> > For example, the test in the repo works ... but apparently doesn't (and
>> it took
>> > me a while to realise this)!
>> >
>> > % make
>> > [WARNING] Citeproc: citation Bae not found
>> > [WARNING] Citeproc: citation Knu86 not found
>> > [WARNING] Citeproc: citation Bel not found
>> > [WARNING] Citeproc: citation Nie72 not found
>> >
>> > I think that the best way to avoid the warnings would be to capture and
>> ignore
>> > them, but I'd (much) rather do that only for the secondary citeproc
>> runs that
>> > are _expected_ to output warnings.
>> >
>> > Is there a way to do this using the existing utils.citeproc() function?
>> I tried
>> > naively temporarily redefining io.stderr but perhaps that was never
>> going to
>> > work in the presumably-Haskell utils.citeproc().
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > William
>> >
>> > On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 13:03, William Lupton <[1]
>> wlupton-QSt+ys/nuMyEUIsrzH9SikB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >     Thanks! [2]https://github.com/pandoc-ext/multibib I assume. I'll
>> look into
>> >     it.
>> >
>> >     On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 12:53, Bastien DUMONT <[3]
>> bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
>> >     wrote:
>> >
>> >         I would split my bibliography file in two and use the
>> >         multiple-bibliographies filter. That's a sometimes irritating
>> >         limitation of CSL: you can check if a variable is set, but not
>> test its
>> >         value.
>> >
>> >         Le Friday 08 September 2023 à 11:17:57AM, 'William Lupton' via
>> >         pandoc-discuss a écrit :
>> >         > Hello,
>> >         >
>> >         > I'd like to sort references so a given publisher's ("BBF")
>> references
>> >         are
>> >         > listed first, and am wondering whether it's possible to
>> compare the
>> >         publisher
>> >         > variable with "BBF". I tried, but it doesn't seem to work
>> (and the
>> >         CSL spec.
>> >         > doesn't appear to indicate that you can do this), so I've
>> fallen back
>> >         on using
>> >         > original-publisher (I'll have to make sure that all the BBF
>> >         references use this
>> >         > rather than publisher). This works, but I'd prefer the first
>> >         approach. Any
>> >         > suggestions?
>> >         >
>> >         > CSL is attached.
>> >         >
>> >         > Thanks,
>> >         > William
>> >         >
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