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From: William Lupton <wlupton-QSt+ys/nuMyEUIsrzH9SikB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Can citations be sorted by call-number but be labeled with a corresponding increasing integer?
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 12:59:05 +0000	[thread overview]
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Thanks Bastien. Please see below:

On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 10:34, Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:

> OK, so have you set instructions for sorting in your CSL file?
> https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/specification.html#sorting


Yes. Let me share the relevant bits of my csl file:

  <citation>
    <layout delimiter="; ">
      <text variable="title-short" suffix=" "/>
      <group prefix="[" suffix="]">
        <text variable="locator" suffix="/"/>
        <text variable="citation-number"/>
      </group>
    </layout>
  </citation>

  <bibliography entry-spacing="0">
    <sort>
      <key variable="citation-number"/>
    </sort>
    <layout>
      <text variable="citation-number" prefix="[" suffix="]"
            display="left-margin"/>
      <group delimiter=", " display="right-inline">
        <text variable="call-number" text-decoration="underline"/>
        <text variable="title" font-style="italic"/>
        <text variable="publisher"/>
        <date date-parts="year" form="text" variable="issued"/>
        <text variable="URL"/>
      </group>
    </layout>
  </bibliography>


> "citation-number" is the "variable that corresponds to the sorted order
> (regardless of sort key)" that you are looking for.
>

Hmm. But is it? In my example (repeated here for simplicity) the markdown
shown below and my CSL gives this (citations sorted by citation-number,
which appears to be order of reference):

[1]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF, 1999
[2]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990

...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):

[1]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
[2]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF, 1999

Markdown:

---
title: Reference order illustration

references:
- id: RFC1149
  call-number: RFC 1149
  title: Avian Carriers
  publisher: IETF
  issued: {year: 1990}

- id: RFC2549
  call-number: RFC 2549
  title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
  publisher: IETF
  issued: {year: 1999}
...

# Text

This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].

This is RFC 1149 [@RFC1149].

# References


> Le Monday 24 January 2022 à 10:01:21AM, William Lupton a écrit :
> > That's what I'm currently using :). It's assigned the values 1, 2, 3
> etc. as
> > citations are encountered (please see my example). Thanks, W.
> >
> > On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 at 17:37, Bastien DUMONT <[1]
> bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >     I have not tested, but does the CSL 'citation-number' variable
> address your
> >     need?
> >     [2]https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/specification.html#
> >     toc-entry-92
> >
> >     Le Friday 21 January 2022 à 04:36:56PM, William Lupton a écrit :
> >     > All,
> >     >
> >     > I've been using citation-number to label and sort citations, which
> means
> >     that
> >     > citations are presented in the order in which they were cited.
> >     >
> >     > I'd prefer to have citations sorted by call-number but still
> labeled 1,
> >     2, 3...
> >     > However, I can't see how to do this: it would apparently require a
> >     numeric
> >     > variable that corresponds to the sorted order (regardless of sort
> key).
> >     >
> >     > (It seems that, if this isn't possible using standard CSL, it
> could be
> >     > addressed by asking citeproc to support a non-standard
> 'sorted-number'
> >     (or
> >     > similar) variable.)
> >     >
> >     > Any ideas?
> >     >
> >     > Thanks,
> >     > William
> >     >
> >     > ---- example ----
> >     >
> >     > With the markdown shown below, my CSL (which I could supply) gives
> this
> >     > (citations sorted by order of reference):
> >     >
> >     > [1]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service,
> IETF,
> >     1999
> >     > [2]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> >     >
> >     > ...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):
> >     >
> >     > [1]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> >     > [2]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service,
> IETF,
> >     1999
> >     >
> >     > ---
> >     > title: Reference order illustration
> >     >
> >     > references:
> >     > - id: RFC1149
> >     >   call-number: RFC 1149
> >     >   title: Avian Carriers
> >     >   publisher: IETF
> >     >   issued: {year: 1990}
> >     >
> >     > - id: RFC2549
> >     >   call-number: RFC 2549
> >     >   title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
> >     >   publisher: IETF
> >     >   issued: {year: 1999}
> >     > ...
> >     >
> >     > # Text
> >     >
> >     > This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].
> >     >
> >     > This is RFC 1149 [@RFC1149].
> >     >
> >     > # References
> >     >
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-24 12:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-21 16:36 William Lupton
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2022-01-21 17:36   ` Bastien DUMONT
2022-01-24 10:01     ` William Lupton
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2022-01-24 10:32         ` Bastien DUMONT
2022-01-24 12:59           ` William Lupton [this message]
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2022-01-24 13:59               ` Bastien DUMONT
2022-01-24 17:17                 ` William Lupton
     [not found]                   ` <CAEe_xxgGSPFFcQr0e9mc6A1ZY=WpS=-z8bbEySZaWCPXrfmzrQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-24 18:10                     ` Bastien DUMONT
2022-01-25  9:49                       ` William Lupton
     [not found]                         ` <CAEe_xxiG4+1dbGzmvm_km9=3nEVc_LmCz-zja7MeW3s_W+23Zg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-25 10:05                           ` Bastien DUMONT

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