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[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b31]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e15-20020a37ac0f000000b006ec80b54a06si531123qkm.1.2022.11.02.07.23.52 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 02 Nov 2022 07:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of wlupton-QSt+ys/nuMyEUIsrzH9SikB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b31 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::b31; Original-Received: by mail-yb1-xb31.google.com with SMTP id n130so21304753yba.10 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2022 07:23:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a25:8c88:0:b0:6cc:54cb:6e5a with SMTP id m8-20020a258c88000000b006cc54cb6e5amr21496399ybl.379.1667399031081; Wed, 02 Nov 2022 07:23:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9dfc8b26-3fda-4882-93b7-06d44671ef7fn-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> X-Original-Sender: wlupton-QSt+ys/nuMyEUIsrzH9SikB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@broadband-forum.org header.s=google header.b=kQjDIsUJ; spf=pass (google.com: domain of wlupton-QSt+ys/nuMyEUIsrzH9SikB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b31 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=wlupton-QSt+ys/nuMyEUIsrzH9SikB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org; dmarc=pass (p=QUARANTINE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=broadband-forum.org X-Original-From: William Lupton Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.text.pandoc:31672 Archived-At: --000000000000f2686205ec7d96c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Would it be feasible for the https://ctan.org/pkg/markdown package to support an option to control whether to generate ASCII space or \pandocSpace (perhaps with a default of generation ASCII spaces)? On Wed, 2 Nov 2022 at 14:17, V=C3=ADt Novotn=C3=BD wrote= : > > So, for example, you couldn=E2=80=99t make Spaces appear as visible = =E2=90=A0 > characters, and you couldn=E2=80=99t make SoftBreaks create hard breaks i= n the > output. > > Replacing *\pandocSpace* with ASCII spaces makes it difficult to > reprogram spaces on the top level of the document, but we can definitely > substitute spaces in parameters of commands such as *\pandocCode*, which > would cover many (if not most) use cases. > > The following example LaTeX document produces the text > *we=E2=90=A3want=E2=90=A3visible=E2=90=A3spaces=E2=90=A3here* in a monosp= aced font: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *\documentclass{standalone}\usepackage{xparse}\ExplSyntaxOn\ProvideDocume= ntCommand > { \pandocCode } { m } { \pandoc_code:n { #1 } }\cs_new:Nn > \pandoc_code:n { \tl_set:Nn \l_tmpa_tl { #1 } > \regex_replace_all:nnN { \s } { \c{textvisiblespace} } > \l_tmpa_tl \texttt { \l_tmpa_tl } > }\ExplSyntaxOff\begin{document}\pandocCode{we want visible spaces > here}\end{document}* > > > There may also be line breaks in the source that don't correspond to > SoftBreak. > > Any lines that end with a comment character (%) will skip over the newlin= e > character. Therefore, we can have newlines in the source code that wouldn= 't > trigger the active newline character. > > The following example plain TeX document produces the text *foo bar baz*: > > *\catcode`\^^M=3D13* > > > *\def^^M{ bar }%foobaz%* > *\bye* > > Dne =C4=8Dtvrtek 27. =C5=99=C3=ADjna 2022 v 19:09:30 UTC+2 u=C5=BEivatel = fiddlosopher napsal: > >> >> > On Oct 27, 2022, at 12:07 AM, Bastien DUMONT >> wrote: >> > >> > Fortunately, it is possible by making the space and the newline >> characters active in TeX! (Provided that a SoftBreak is rendered as a li= ne >> break in the TeX output.) This is how \obeylines and \obeyspaces work. >> >> But this might not be what you want; after all there are going to be >> spaces in code blocks, and you might not want to treat them the same way >> (they do not correspond to pandoc Space elements). 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Would it be feasible for the https://ctan.org/pkg/markdown package to support an option= to control whether to generate ASCII space or \pandocSpace (perhaps with a= default of generation ASCII spaces)?

<= div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, 2 Nov 2022 at 14:17, V=C3=ADt = Novotn=C3=BD <witiko-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org&g= t; wrote:
>= =C2=A0 So, for example, you couldn=E2=80=99t make Spaces appear as visible =E2=90= =A0 characters, and you couldn=E2=80=99t make SoftBreaks create hard breaks= in the output.

Replacing \pandocSpace with ASCII= spaces makes it difficult to reprogram spaces on the top level of the docu= ment, but we can definitely substitute spaces in parameters of commands suc= h as=C2=A0 \pandocCode, which would cover many (if not most) use cases.

The following example LaTeX document produces the text we=E2=90=A3want=E2=90=A3visible=E2=90=A3spaces=E2=90=A3here=C2=A0in a = monospaced font:

\documentclass{standalone}
= \usepackage{xparse}
\ExplSyntaxOn
\ProvideDocumentCommand
=C2=A0 {= \pandocCode }
=C2=A0 { m }
=C2=A0 { \pandoc_code:n { #1 } }
\cs_n= ew:Nn
=C2=A0 \pandoc_code:n
=C2=A0 {
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \tl_set:Nn \l_t= mpa_tl { #1 }
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \regex_replace_all:nnN
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 { \s }
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 { \c{textvisiblespace} }
=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 \l_tmpa_tl
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \texttt { \l_tmpa_tl }
=C2=A0 }\ExplSyntaxOff
\begin{document}
\pandocCode{we want visible spaces = here}
\end{document}

>=C2=A0 There may also be line breaks in the source that don't correspond to So= ftBreak.

Any lines that end with a comment charact= er (%)=C2=A0will skip over the newline character. Therefore, we can have ne= wlines in the source code that wouldn't trigger the active newline char= acter.

The following example plain TeX document pr= oduces the text foo bar baz:

\catcode`\^^M=3D13=
\def^^M{ bar }%
foo
baz%
\bye

Dne =C4=8Dtvrtek 27. =C5=99=C3=ADjna 2022=C2=A0v=C2=A019:09= :30 UTC+2 u=C5=BEivatel fiddlosopher napsal:

> On Oct 27, 2022, at 12:07 AM, Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>=20
> Fortunately, it is possible by making the space and the newline ch= aracters active in TeX! (Provided that a SoftBreak is rendered as a line br= eak in the TeX output.) This is how \obeylines and \obeyspaces work.

But this might not be what you want; after all there are going to be sp= aces in code blocks, and you might not want to treat them the same way (the= y do not correspond to pandoc Space elements). There may also be line brea= ks in the source that don't correspond to SoftBreak.


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