* pandoc not actually doing anything with citations - what am I doing wrong? @ 2014-02-04 13:32 Cormac Relf [not found] ` <df29e766-94c4-4bde-a399-d796122dcf36-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Cormac Relf @ 2014-02-04 13:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2825 bytes --] Hi, Filtering through *pandoc-citeproc-0.3.0.1* and supplying a .csl and .bib file to *pandoc-1.12.3.1* fails to render pandoc-style markdown citations. It just sanitises [ and ] to {[} and {]}, not transforming the [@:] references into anything usable. pandoc doesn't output any errors, just silently drops, even though the citekey matches the bib file. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong; it doesn't seem to detect any citations at all, since using gibberish as a citekey doesn't pull any errors either, and still sits in the PDF as "[@:gibberish]". The references section is also empty. How can Pandoc or I be so blind? What's happening here? I don't get it. Here's my command: pandoc -r markdown -s -S --latex-engine=xelatex --filter pandoc-citeproc -- csl=/Users/cormac/.pandoc/csl/aglc.csl --bibliography=/Users/cormac/Dropbox/ Papers/pandoc.bib --biblatex -o output.pdf input.md input.md consists of: # Header ... ... [@Kore:2013vb] ... ... # References and the referenced pandoc.bib, generated by Papers 3 on a Mac, is below. This is just random, I'm not a linguistics expert. The CSL is straight from Zotero's website. %% Created using Papers on Tue, 04 Feb 2014. %% http://papersapp.com/papers/ @article{Kore:2013vb, author = {Kore, M and Shaba, V}, title = {{COMMON PATTERNS OF WORD-FORMATION IN BALKAN LANGUAGES: THE CASE OF DIMINUITIVE SUFFIXES}}, year = {2013}, read = {Yes}, rating = {0}, date-added = {2014-02-04T12:06:54GMT}, date-modified = {2014-02-04T12:08:54GMT}, abstract = {ABSTRACT This paper discusses some linguistic features which are common to Albanian, Slavic languages in the Balkans, Modern Greek and Romanian with a special emphasis on the use of diminutive suffixes, which are not only used to express smallness but also ... }, url = {http://www.ajssh.leena-luna.co.jp/AJSSHPDFs/Vol.2(2)/AJSSH2013(2.2-37).pdf}, local-url = {file://localhost/Users/cormac/Dropbox/Papers/Library.papers3/Files/96/967AC40C-AAA5-4FDA-8FAF-DBAE6B336D9E.pdf}, file = {{967AC40C-AAA5-4FDA-8FAF-DBAE6B336D9E.pdf:/Users/cormac/Dropbox/Papers/Library.papers3/Files/96/967AC40C-AAA5-4FDA-8FAF-DBAE6B336D9E.pdf:application/pdf}}, uri = {\url{papers3://publication/uuid/ED4C5C00-3D8E-4254-96CD-71B2457C2AC0}} } -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/df29e766-94c4-4bde-a399-d796122dcf36%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 8758 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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* Re: pandoc not actually doing anything with citations - what am I doing wrong? [not found] ` <df29e766-94c4-4bde-a399-d796122dcf36-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> @ 2014-02-04 14:14 ` nickbart1980-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w 2014-02-04 17:13 ` kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg 2015-04-03 3:45 ` Kit Lloyd 2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: nickbart1980-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w @ 2014-02-04 14:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3357 bytes --] Try removing "--biblatex" from the command line. "--biblatex" seems to convert @foo to \autocite{foo} before pandoc-citeproc even gets to see it. @jgm - I wonder whether it'd be better to deactivate "--biblatex" (and "--natbib") when pandoc-citeproc is used … On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 1:32:27 PM UTC, Cormac Relf wrote: > > Hi, > > Filtering through *pandoc-citeproc-0.3.0.1* and supplying a .csl and .bib > file to *pandoc-1.12.3.1* fails to render pandoc-style markdown citations. > > It just sanitises [ and ] to {[} and {]}, not transforming the [@:] > references into anything usable. pandoc doesn't output any errors, just > silently drops, even though the citekey matches the bib file. > > I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong; it doesn't seem to detect any > citations at all, since using gibberish as a citekey doesn't pull any > errors either, and still sits in the PDF as "[@:gibberish]". > The references section is also empty. > > How can Pandoc or I be so blind? What's happening here? I don't get it. > > Here's my command: > > pandoc -r markdown -s -S --latex-engine=xelatex --filter pandoc-citeproc > --csl=/Users/cormac/.pandoc/csl/aglc.csl --bibliography=/Users/cormac/ > Dropbox/Papers/pandoc.bib --biblatex -o output.pdf input.md > > input.md consists of: > > # Header > ... > ... [@Kore:2013vb] ... > ... > # References > > and the referenced pandoc.bib, generated by Papers 3 on a Mac, is below. > This is just random, I'm not a linguistics expert. The CSL is straight from > Zotero's website. > > %% Created using Papers on Tue, 04 Feb 2014. > %% http://papersapp.com/papers/ > > @article{Kore:2013vb, > author = {Kore, M and Shaba, V}, > title = {{COMMON PATTERNS OF WORD-FORMATION IN BALKAN LANGUAGES: THE CASE > OF DIMINUITIVE SUFFIXES}}, > year = {2013}, > read = {Yes}, > rating = {0}, > date-added = {2014-02-04T12:06:54GMT}, > date-modified = {2014-02-04T12:08:54GMT}, > abstract = {ABSTRACT This paper discusses some linguistic features which > are common to Albanian, Slavic languages in the Balkans, Modern Greek and > Romanian with a special emphasis on the use of diminutive suffixes, which > are not only used to express smallness but also ... > }, > url = { > http://www.ajssh.leena-luna.co.jp/AJSSHPDFs/Vol.2(2)/AJSSH2013(2.2-37).pdf > }, > local-url = > {file://localhost/Users/cormac/Dropbox/Papers/Library.papers3/Files/96/967AC40C-AAA5-4FDA-8FAF-DBAE6B336D9E.pdf}, > file = > {{967AC40C-AAA5-4FDA-8FAF-DBAE6B336D9E.pdf:/Users/cormac/Dropbox/Papers/Library.papers3/Files/96/967AC40C-AAA5-4FDA-8FAF-DBAE6B336D9E.pdf:application/pdf}}, > uri = > {\url{papers3://publication/uuid/ED4C5C00-3D8E-4254-96CD-71B2457C2AC0}} > } > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/25f4de48-6f57-4cf2-8f38-df777362eacc%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 8018 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: pandoc not actually doing anything with citations - what am I doing wrong? [not found] ` <df29e766-94c4-4bde-a399-d796122dcf36-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 2014-02-04 14:14 ` nickbart1980-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w @ 2014-02-04 17:13 ` kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg [not found] ` <4f55296c-6751-4670-84cd-7a9d6dcc23c2-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 2015-04-03 3:45 ` Kit Lloyd 2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg @ 2014-02-04 17:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1647 bytes --] Hi, I recently tested a lot of styles (~1000+) from Zotero and from Github's repository of citationstyles.org. Am Dienstag, 4. Februar 2014 14:32:27 UTC+1 schrieb Cormac Relf: > referenced pandoc.bib, generated by Papers 3 on a Mac, is below. This is > just random, I'm not a linguistics expert. The CSL is straight from > Zotero's website. > I do not see any style named aglc.csl on the Zotero website nor on Github. Note, that some of the *.csl files from there simply didn't work (none of the smaller ones with ~1600 Bytes or less did work -- they consist only of a small header, with no real style rules following afterwards.) In case this should mean* australian-guide-to-legal-citation.csl *: I tested it, and it does its job. > Here's my command: > > pandoc -r markdown -s -S --latex-engine=xelatex --filter pandoc-citeproc > --csl=/Users/cormac/.pandoc/csl/aglc.csl --bibliography=/Users/cormac/ > Dropbox/Papers/pandoc.bib --biblatex -o output.pdf input.md > This command should work as soon as you remove the "--biblatex" part from it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/4f55296c-6751-4670-84cd-7a9d6dcc23c2%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 4248 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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* Re: pandoc not actually doing anything with citations - what am I doing wrong? [not found] ` <4f55296c-6751-4670-84cd-7a9d6dcc23c2-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> @ 2014-02-05 0:21 ` Cormac Relf [not found] ` <221119e1-f04c-42cc-8aad-384ee8346e23-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 2014-02-06 20:38 ` Rintze Zelle 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Cormac Relf @ 2014-02-05 0:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2511 bytes --] Indeed, should have pointed out that I renamed it to be shorter. Both of you are right about --biblatex (thanks!), but there was actually another problem at hand on top of that. Papers 3 had a paper (a patent actually) which had a weird author field (numbers) and a citekey with nothing before the colon: [@:2008vo]. I don't think pandoc was recognising that as a citekey, even though that entry @patent{:2008vo, ...} existed in the bib file. Is there supposed to be some sort of standard to how citekeys are laid out? I feel like it could be Papers messing up here. I don't think it's a really common thing to have no author, so not a big problem really. Thanks for your help everyone, Cormac On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 4:13:19 AM UTC+11, kurt.p...-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org wrote: > > Hi, > > I recently tested a lot of styles (~1000+) from Zotero and from Github's > repository of citationstyles.org. > > Am Dienstag, 4. Februar 2014 14:32:27 UTC+1 schrieb Cormac Relf: > > >> referenced pandoc.bib, generated by Papers 3 on a Mac, is below. This is >> just random, I'm not a linguistics expert. The CSL is straight from >> Zotero's website. >> > > I do not see any style named aglc.csl on the Zotero website nor on Github. > Note, that some of the *.csl files from there simply didn't work (none of > the smaller ones with ~1600 Bytes or less did work -- they consist only of > a small header, with no real style rules following afterwards.) > > In case this should mean* australian-guide-to-legal-citation.csl *: I > tested it, and it does its job. > > >> Here's my command: >> >> pandoc -r markdown -s -S --latex-engine=xelatex --filter pandoc-citeproc >> --csl=/Users/cormac/.pandoc/csl/aglc.csl --bibliography=/Users/cormac/ >> Dropbox/Papers/pandoc.bib --biblatex -o output.pdf input.md >> > > This command should work as soon as you remove the "--biblatex" part from > it. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/221119e1-f04c-42cc-8aad-384ee8346e23%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 5689 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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* Re: pandoc not actually doing anything with citations - what am I doing wrong? [not found] ` <221119e1-f04c-42cc-8aad-384ee8346e23-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> @ 2014-02-05 0:49 ` Scot Mcphee 2014-02-05 18:01 ` John MacFarlane 2014-06-24 12:24 ` Kit Lloyd 2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Scot Mcphee @ 2014-02-05 0:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 5406 bytes --] I have found one good way to check bib files to to load them into Bibdesk and see what it complains about. Papers, in my experience, is particularly notorious in producing illegal values in the bib file. I have now recently ditched it entirely (after paying for the Papers3 upgrade!) because of this and many other reasons to do with database reliability (well-documented in a couple of posts on my blog). I switched to Mendeley, but even it won't always produce a "clean" bib file. For example if your author is called "O'Connell" you'll get a reference id of "O'Connell1999" which is definitely illegal (also watch for the French, I had one - L'Hoir - with the same problem). I manually adjust those when I find them in Mendeley to omit the apostrophe. Probably your reference is Anonymous, i.e. no author or an institutional author? How the style handles the lack of an Author field in the body of the bib will be up to the particular style, I suppose. There are three nice side effects of moving over to Mendeley Desktop (sorry to shill for it): 1. it will automatically sync its database to a nominated .bib file so you can always have one up to date with your research data. 2. it generates its citation keys in much nicer format, i.e. author date (Mcphee2014) so you don't have to remember those awful random key appendices that Papers tacks on, nor have the colon between the author and the year. I had to do a bulk regexp search and replace on my documents to make it work of course but that didn't take long and it's much nicer to use now. 3. it's free if you have less than 2GB of PDFs. One the downside, what it lacks is an internal search hook into the online databases. You have to go to each one you use one by one and use their web search facility individually and import results with the Mendeley bookmarklet, which is slightly ugly. But that beats losing data to database corruptions. Scot *Scot Mcphee. * *Computer programmer. Classics PhD. Trouble-maker. Problem-solver.* p 0412957414 e scot.mcphee-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org let x=x http://crazymcphee.net/x/ inlustre monumentum est http://inlustre.net/ On 5 February 2014 10:21, Cormac Relf <cormacrelf-BUHhN+a2lJ4@public.gmane.org> wrote: > Indeed, should have pointed out that I renamed it to be shorter. > > Both of you are right about --biblatex (thanks!), but there was actually > another problem at hand on top of that. Papers 3 had a paper (a patent > actually) which had a weird author field (numbers) and a citekey with > nothing before the colon: [@:2008vo]. I don't think pandoc was recognising > that as a citekey, even though that entry @patent{:2008vo, ...} existed in > the bib file. > > Is there supposed to be some sort of standard to how citekeys are laid > out? I feel like it could be Papers messing up here. I don't think it's a > really common thing to have no author, so not a big problem really. > > Thanks for your help everyone, > > Cormac > > On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 4:13:19 AM UTC+11, kurt.p...-gM/Ye1E23mzyGubv3rZB4bnyvKbxsaOP@public.gmane.org: >> >> Hi, >> >> I recently tested a lot of styles (~1000+) from Zotero and from Github's >> repository of citationstyles.org. >> >> Am Dienstag, 4. Februar 2014 14:32:27 UTC+1 schrieb Cormac Relf: >> >> >>> referenced pandoc.bib, generated by Papers 3 on a Mac, is below. This is >>> just random, I'm not a linguistics expert. The CSL is straight from >>> Zotero's website. >>> >> >> I do not see any style named aglc.csl on the Zotero website nor on >> Github. Note, that some of the *.csl files from there simply didn't work >> (none of the smaller ones with ~1600 Bytes or less did work -- they consist >> only of a small header, with no real style rules following afterwards.) >> >> In case this should mean* australian-guide-to-legal-citation.csl *: I >> tested it, and it does its job. >> >> >>> Here's my command: >>> >>> pandoc -r markdown -s -S --latex-engine=xelatex --filter pandoc-citeproc >>> --csl=/Users/cormac/.pandoc/csl/aglc.csl --bibliography=/Users/cormac/D >>> ropbox/Papers/pandoc.bib --biblatex -o output.pdf input.md >>> >> >> This command should work as soon as you remove the "--biblatex" partfrom it. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/221119e1-f04c-42cc-8aad-384ee8346e23%40googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. 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* Re: pandoc not actually doing anything with citations - what am I doing wrong? [not found] ` <221119e1-f04c-42cc-8aad-384ee8346e23-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 2014-02-05 0:49 ` Scot Mcphee @ 2014-02-05 18:01 ` John MacFarlane 2014-06-24 12:24 ` Kit Lloyd 2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: John MacFarlane @ 2014-02-05 18:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw Pandoc citation keys must begin with an underscore or a letter, and can contain underscores, alphanumerics, and punctuation characters that are followed by alphanumerics. +++ Cormac Relf [Feb 04 14 16:21 ]: > Indeed, should have pointed out that I renamed it to be shorter. > Both of you are right about --biblatex (thanks!), but there was > actually another problem at hand on top of that. Papers 3 had a paper > (a patent actually) which had a weird author field (numbers) and a > citekey with nothing before the colon: [@:2008vo]. I don't think pandoc > was recognising that as a citekey, even though that entry > @patent{:2008vo, ...} existed in the bib file. > Is there supposed to be some sort of standard to how citekeys are laid > out? I feel like it could be Papers messing up here. I don't think it's > a really common thing to have no author, so not a big problem really. > Thanks for your help everyone, > Cormac > On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 4:13:19 AM UTC+11, > kurt.p...-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org wrote: > > Hi, > I recently tested a lot of styles (~1000+) from Zotero and from > Github's repository of [1]citationstyles.org. > Am Dienstag, 4. Februar 2014 14:32:27 UTC+1 schrieb Cormac Relf: > > referenced pandoc.bib, generated by Papers 3 on a Mac, is below. This > is just random, I'm not a linguistics expert. The CSL is straight from > Zotero's website. > > I do not see any style named aglc.csl on the Zotero website nor on > Github. Note, that some of the *.csl files from there simply didn't > work (none of the smaller ones with ~1600 Bytes or less did work -- > they consist only of a small header, with no real style rules following > afterwards.) > In case this should mean australian-guide-to-legal-citation.csl : I > tested it, and it does its job. > > Here's my command: > pandoc -r markdown -s -S --latex-engine=xelatex --filter > pandoc-citeproc --csl=/Users/cormac/.pandoc/csl/aglc.csl > --bibliography=/Users/cormac/Dropbox/Papers/pandoc.bib --biblatex -o > output.pdf input.md > > > This command should work as soon as you remove the "--biblatex" part > from it. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit > [2]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/221119e1-f04c-42cc- > 8aad-384ee8346e23%40googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit [3]https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > References > > 1. http://citationstyles.org/ > 2. https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/221119e1-f04c-42cc-8aad-384ee8346e23%40googlegroups.com > 3. https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: pandoc not actually doing anything with citations - what am I doing wrong? [not found] ` <221119e1-f04c-42cc-8aad-384ee8346e23-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 2014-02-05 0:49 ` Scot Mcphee 2014-02-05 18:01 ` John MacFarlane @ 2014-06-24 12:24 ` Kit Lloyd 2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Kit Lloyd @ 2014-06-24 12:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3311 bytes --] I am also working with aglc.csl and have a problem that I hope maybe easy to solve. When identical citations are repeated immediately after one another then the second citation is replaced by "Ibid." - this works fine. When citations are separated by intervening citations then the following identical citation should comprise "authors_surname above n x", where x equates to the prior occurrence. This doesn't work (it simply prints the authors_surname). I have tested the csl package and it works as expected, so it seems to be in the way I running citeproc. (I am using the command line described above) Can anyone point me in the right direction? On Wednesday, 5 February 2014 04:21:44 UTC+4, Cormac Relf wrote: > > Indeed, should have pointed out that I renamed it to be shorter. > > Both of you are right about --biblatex (thanks!), but there was actually > another problem at hand on top of that. Papers 3 had a paper (a patent > actually) which had a weird author field (numbers) and a citekey with > nothing before the colon: [@:2008vo]. I don't think pandoc was recognising > that as a citekey, even though that entry @patent{:2008vo, ...} existed in > the bib file. > > Is there supposed to be some sort of standard to how citekeys are laid > out? I feel like it could be Papers messing up here. I don't think it's a > really common thing to have no author, so not a big problem really. > > Thanks for your help everyone, > > Cormac > > On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 4:13:19 AM UTC+11, kurt.p...-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I recently tested a lot of styles (~1000+) from Zotero and from Github's >> repository of citationstyles.org. >> >> Am Dienstag, 4. Februar 2014 14:32:27 UTC+1 schrieb Cormac Relf: >> >> >>> referenced pandoc.bib, generated by Papers 3 on a Mac, is below. This is >>> just random, I'm not a linguistics expert. The CSL is straight from >>> Zotero's website. >>> >> >> I do not see any style named aglc.csl on the Zotero website nor on >> Github. Note, that some of the *.csl files from there simply didn't work >> (none of the smaller ones with ~1600 Bytes or less did work -- they consist >> only of a small header, with no real style rules following afterwards.) >> >> In case this should mean* australian-guide-to-legal-citation.csl *: I >> tested it, and it does its job. >> >> >>> Here's my command: >>> >>> pandoc -r markdown -s -S --latex-engine=xelatex --filter pandoc-citeproc >>> --csl=/Users/cormac/.pandoc/csl/aglc.csl --bibliography=/Users/cormac/ >>> Dropbox/Papers/pandoc.bib --biblatex -o output.pdf input.md >>> >> >> This command should work as soon as you remove the "--biblatex" part >> from it. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/653c9040-a313-495f-a663-f61be1d93dbc%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 6885 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: pandoc not actually doing anything with citations - what am I doing wrong? [not found] ` <4f55296c-6751-4670-84cd-7a9d6dcc23c2-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 2014-02-05 0:21 ` Cormac Relf @ 2014-02-06 20:38 ` Rintze Zelle [not found] ` <ae58a679-63ba-4f6d-97cc-dc5b3b938324-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Rintze Zelle @ 2014-02-06 20:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1405 bytes --] On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 12:13:19 PM UTC-5, kurt.p...-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org wrote: > > I do not see any style named aglc.csl on the Zotero website nor on Github. > Note, that some of the *.csl files from there simply didn't work (none of > the smaller ones with ~1600 Bytes or less did work -- they consist only of > a small header, with no real style rules following afterwards.) > You mean styles like https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/blob/master/dependent/3-biotech.csl ? Dependent styles were specifically designed to work as aliases to "independent" styles, to eliminate the need to duplicate complete styles in case multiple journals use the same citation format. See http://citationstyles.org/downloads/specification.html#dependent-styles for more information. Rintze -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ae58a679-63ba-4f6d-97cc-dc5b3b938324%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1842 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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* Re: pandoc not actually doing anything with citations - what am I doing wrong? [not found] ` <ae58a679-63ba-4f6d-97cc-dc5b3b938324-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> @ 2014-02-07 18:36 ` kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg @ 2014-02-07 18:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2061 bytes --] Hi Rintze, Am Donnerstag, 6. Februar 2014 21:38:15 UTC+1 schrieb Rintze Zelle: > > On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 12:13:19 PM UTC-5, kurt.p...-gM/Ye1E23mzyGubv3rZB4bnyvKbxsaOP@public.gmane.org: >> >> I do not see any style named aglc.csl on the Zotero website nor on >> Github. Note, that some of the *.csl files from there simply didn't work >> (none of the smaller ones with ~1600 Bytes or less did work -- they consist >> only of a small header, with no real style rules following afterwards.) >> > > You mean styles like > https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/blob/master/dependent/3-biotech.csl? Dependent styles were specifically designed to work as aliases to > "independent" styles, to eliminate the need to duplicate complete styles in > case multiple journals use the same citation format. See > http://citationstyles.org/downloads/specification.html#dependent-stylesfor more information. > Yes, probably most of these non-working csl files were "dependent" styles. (But not all.) What i simply did was this: check out the Github repository of CSL styles and then: for i in *.csl; do [run my shellscript which creates a test sample of the citation style] done I don't understand how these "dependent" styles are supposed to work. Probably not on the commandline and via a pandoc call, but only through some GUI tool... (I do not care at the moment, but I'll return to this topic later to research it further.) > > Rintze > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/490806c5-f3a0-46e5-8095-e6975d07c956%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 4096 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* pandoc not actually doing anything with citations - what am I doing wrong? [not found] ` <df29e766-94c4-4bde-a399-d796122dcf36-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 2014-02-04 14:14 ` nickbart1980-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w 2014-02-04 17:13 ` kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg @ 2015-04-03 3:45 ` Kit Lloyd [not found] ` <ce98885b-17aa-4610-a2ba-aca0f693851a-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Kit Lloyd @ 2015-04-03 3:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 234 bytes --] Hi, I was wondering whether you did finally manage to get aglc.csl to work as expected with pandoc-citeproc. I seem to be stuck, aglc.csl seems to work fine when using the Zotero plugins, but not so well when using pandoc-citeproc. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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* Re: pandoc not actually doing anything with citations - what am I doing wrong? [not found] ` <ce98885b-17aa-4610-a2ba-aca0f693851a-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> @ 2015-05-03 3:38 ` Cormac Relf [not found] ` <CAEwFcJ9EfkD-jgjww0o-OEC7dqt2f1720kjBRvTVxiP9KYCSxg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Cormac Relf @ 2015-05-03 3:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1757 bytes --] I don't even bother with aglc.csl any more. I manually follow AGLC3 in my text editor with pandoc footnotes. Best of luck. On 3 April 2015 at 14:45, Kit Lloyd <kitlloyd-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering whether you did finally manage to get aglc.csl to work as > expected with pandoc-citeproc. I seem to be stuck, aglc.csl seems to work > fine when using the Zotero plugins, but not so well when using > pandoc-citeproc. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/pandoc-discuss/tltBY7mgjW0/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ce98885b-17aa-4610-a2ba-aca0f693851a%40googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/CAEwFcJ9EfkD-jgjww0o-OEC7dqt2f1720kjBRvTVxiP9KYCSxg%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2988 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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* Re: pandoc not actually doing anything with citations - what am I doing wrong? [not found] ` <CAEwFcJ9EfkD-jgjww0o-OEC7dqt2f1720kjBRvTVxiP9KYCSxg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> @ 2015-05-03 4:13 ` Kit Lloyd 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Kit Lloyd @ 2015-05-03 4:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2254 bytes --] Glad its not just me. I do likewise, put the sources into zotero then drag the lot as formatted cites into a rtf file, convert to markdown. Use zotero to create the bibliography and convert to markdown. Write the document in markdown using the formatted citations. Run it through a pandoc script with a custom latex template and out comes the pdf (or whatever format you desire). On Sunday, 3 May 2015 13:38:34 UTC+10, Cormac Relf wrote: > > I don't even bother with aglc.csl any more. I manually follow AGLC3 in my > text editor with pandoc footnotes. > > Best of luck. > > On 3 April 2015 at 14:45, Kit Lloyd <kitl...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I was wondering whether you did finally manage to get aglc.csl to work as >> expected with pandoc-citeproc. I seem to be stuck, aglc.csl seems to work >> fine when using the Zotero plugins, but not so well when using >> pandoc-citeproc. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/pandoc-discuss/tltBY7mgjW0/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org >> <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ce98885b-17aa-4610-a2ba-aca0f693851a%40googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/f1fdfc69-70d7-4143-8e21-27462e8eebe1%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 4603 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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