* GIFT question format
@ 2021-11-22 13:30 Corentin Dupont
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From: Corentin Dupont @ 2021-11-22 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello,
I discovered the GIFT format <https://docs.moodle.org/311/en/GIFT_format>
for describing quizz questions. It is used in online learning tools such as
Moodle:
Mahatma Gandhi's birthday is an Indian holiday on {~15th~3rd=2nd} of
October.What is the value of pi (to 3 decimal places)?
{#3.141..3.142}.
In the example above, the answers are prefixed by ~ for wrong answer, = for
right answer.
I then wondered: how can I use this format in my static website? It would
be nice to embed this format in markdown:
```{format=gift}
Mahatma Gandhi's birthday is an Indian holiday on {~15th~3rd=2nd} of October.
```
And have it generated as a HTML form. Any thoughts on this?
In general, is there any way to generate a HTML form in pandoc?
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@ 2021-11-22 13:59 ` Joseph Reagle
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From: Joseph Reagle @ 2021-11-22 13:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I hadn't encountered GIFT before, neat! You'd have to write custom readers and writers for pandoc to handle this.
https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#custom-readers-and-writers
Otherwise, if you have a GIFT tool, you could simply include the resulting HTML in the markdown -- there's no markdown convention for forms.
A dream feature of mine would be able to write quiz/polls in my markdown-to-revealjs slides, and not have to set up my own server -- which the revealjs poll plugin currently requires. Embedding some of the question services out there would be awesome and possible, but I don't think there's been interest on the revealjs sde.
https://github.com/hakimel/reveal.js/issues/2763
Then, being able to write questions/answers in a text format would be icing on the cake. 🙂
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From: Corentin Dupont @ 2021-11-24 10:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Joseph,
yes, Pandoc readers and writers for the gift format would be great.
Mahatma Gandhi's birthday is an Indian holiday on {~15th~3rd=2nd} of October.
This would translate to HTML to something like this:
<form action="http://www.foo.com" method="POST">
<div>
<label for="Q1">Mahatma Gandhi's birthday is an Indian holiday on</label>
<select id="Q1" name="Q1">
<option value="Q1R1">15th</option>
<option value="Q1R2">3rd</option>
<option value="Q1R3">2nd</option>
</select>
</div></form>
This seems rather straight forward. But what about the server side?
In this case, the server would receive "Q1=Q1R1" if you select the first
answer.
The server needs to be configured with the gift file, but I suppose this is
a different process.
On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 2:59 PM Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> I hadn't encountered GIFT before, neat! You'd have to write custom readers
> and writers for pandoc to handle this.
>
> https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#custom-readers-and-writers
>
> Otherwise, if you have a GIFT tool, you could simply include the resulting
> HTML in the markdown -- there's no markdown convention for forms.
>
> A dream feature of mine would be able to write quiz/polls in my
> markdown-to-revealjs slides, and not have to set up my own server -- which
> the revealjs poll plugin currently requires. Embedding some of the question
> services out there would be awesome and possible, but I don't think there's
> been interest on the revealjs sde.
>
> https://github.com/hakimel/reveal.js/issues/2763
>
> Then, being able to write questions/answers in a text format would be
> icing on the cake. 🙂
>
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@ 2021-11-24 11:13 ` Bastien DUMONT
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From: Bastien DUMONT @ 2021-11-24 11:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw
I wonder if it is possible to represent such a structure with Pandoc types. But if you want to include snippets of GIFT code into a regular markdown file, you can insert them as raw blocks like this:
```{=gift}
Mahatma Gandhi's birthday is an Indian holiday on {
~15th
~3rd
=2nd
} of October.
```
Then, you can create a Lua filter that parses RawBlocks with "gift" as the "format" attribute and transform it directly into a raw HTML block (provided that you target format is HTML).
Le Wednesday 24 November 2021 à 11:43:45AM, Corentin Dupont a écrit :
> Hi Joseph,
> yes, Pandoc readers and writers for the gift format would be great.
>
> Mahatma Gandhi's birthday is an Indian holiday on {
> ~15th
> ~3rd
> =2nd
> } of October.
>
> This would translate to HTML to something like this:
>
> <form action="[1]http://www.foo.com" method="POST">
> <div>
> <label for="Q1">Mahatma Gandhi's birthday is an Indian holiday on</label>
> <select id="Q1" name="Q1">
> <option value="Q1R1">15th</option>
> <option value="Q1R2">3rd</option>
> <option value="Q1R3">2nd</option>
> </select>
> </div>
> </form>
>
>
> This seems rather straight forward. But what about the server side?
> In this case, the server would receive "Q1=Q1R1" if you select the first
> answer.
> The server needs to be configured with the gift file, but I suppose this is a
> different process.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 2:59 PM Joseph Reagle <[2]joseph.2011-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
>
> I hadn't encountered GIFT before, neat! You'd have to write custom readers
> and writers for pandoc to handle this.
>
> [3]https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#custom-readers-and-writers
>
> Otherwise, if you have a GIFT tool, you could simply include the resulting
> HTML in the markdown -- there's no markdown convention for forms.
>
> A dream feature of mine would be able to write quiz/polls in my
> markdown-to-revealjs slides, and not have to set up my own server -- which
> the revealjs poll plugin currently requires. Embedding some of the question
> services out there would be awesome and possible, but I don't think there's
> been interest on the revealjs sde.
>
> [4]https://github.com/hakimel/reveal.js/issues/2763
>
> Then, being able to write questions/answers in a text format would be icing
> on the cake. 🙂
>
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* Re: GIFT question format
2021-11-24 11:13 ` Bastien DUMONT
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From: John Noll @ 2021-11-24 12:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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There is a rather nifty Markdown-based tool for writing quizzes in Markdown
and translating them into QTI format which most LMSs accept (Moodle and
Canvas among them).
See : https://github.com/gpoore/text2qti.git
-John Nol
On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 11:14:35 AM UTC Bastien Dumont wrote:
> I wonder if it is possible to represent such a structure with Pandoc
> types. But if you want to include snippets of GIFT code into a regular
> markdown file, you can insert them as raw blocks like this:
>
>
> ```{=gift}
> Mahatma Gandhi's birthday is an Indian holiday on {
> ~15th
> ~3rd
> =2nd
> } of October.
> ```
>
> Then, you can create a Lua filter that parses RawBlocks with "gift" as the
> "format" attribute and transform it directly into a raw HTML block
> (provided that you target format is HTML).
>
> Le Wednesday 24 November 2021 à 11:43:45AM, Corentin Dupont a écrit :
> > Hi Joseph,
> > yes, Pandoc readers and writers for the gift format would be great.
> >
> > Mahatma Gandhi's birthday is an Indian holiday on {
> > ~15th
> > ~3rd
> > =2nd
> > } of October.
> >
> > This would translate to HTML to something like this:
> >
> > <form action="[1]http://www.foo.com" method="POST">
> > <div>
> > <label for="Q1">Mahatma Gandhi's birthday is an Indian holiday on</label>
> > <select id="Q1" name="Q1">
> > <option value="Q1R1">15th</option>
> > <option value="Q1R2">3rd</option>
> > <option value="Q1R3">2nd</option>
> > </select>
> > </div>
> > </form>
> >
> >
> > This seems rather straight forward. But what about the server side?
> > In this case, the server would receive "Q1=Q1R1" if you select the first
> > answer.
> > The server needs to be configured with the gift file, but I suppose this
> is a
> > different process.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 2:59 PM Joseph Reagle <[2]josep...-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I hadn't encountered GIFT before, neat! You'd have to write custom
> readers
> > and writers for pandoc to handle this.
> >
> > [3]https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#custom-readers-and-writers
> >
> > Otherwise, if you have a GIFT tool, you could simply include the
> resulting
> > HTML in the markdown -- there's no markdown convention for forms.
> >
> > A dream feature of mine would be able to write quiz/polls in my
> > markdown-to-revealjs slides, and not have to set up my own server --
> which
> > the revealjs poll plugin currently requires. Embedding some of the
> question
> > services out there would be awesome and possible, but I don't think
> there's
> > been interest on the revealjs sde.
> >
> > [4]https://github.com/hakimel/reveal.js/issues/2763
> >
> > Then, being able to write questions/answers in a text format would be
> icing
> > on the cake. 🙂
> >
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@ 2021-11-24 12:11 ` Corentin Dupont
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From: Corentin Dupont @ 2021-11-24 12:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 1:00 PM John Noll <jhnoll-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> There is a rather nifty Markdown-based tool for writing quizzes in
> Markdown and translating them into QTI format which most LMSs accept
> (Moodle and Canvas among them).
> See : https://github.com/gpoore/text2qti.git
Thanks. I tried to render the markdown from the example questions, however
it does not render well.
[image: image.png]
So it seems to be just another question format?
>
>
> -John Nol
> On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 11:14:35 AM UTC Bastien Dumont wrote:
>
>> I wonder if it is possible to represent such a structure with Pandoc
>> types. But if you want to include snippets of GIFT code into a regular
>> markdown file, you can insert them as raw blocks like this:
>>
>>
>> ```{=gift}
>> Mahatma Gandhi's birthday is an Indian holiday on {
>> ~15th
>> ~3rd
>> =2nd
>> } of October.
>> ```
>>
>> Then, you can create a Lua filter that parses RawBlocks with "gift" as
>> the "format" attribute and transform it directly into a raw HTML block
>> (provided that you target format is HTML).
>>
>> Le Wednesday 24 November 2021 à 11:43:45AM, Corentin Dupont a écrit :
>> > Hi Joseph,
>> > yes, Pandoc readers and writers for the gift format would be great.
>> >
>> > Mahatma Gandhi's birthday is an Indian holiday on {
>> > ~15th
>> > ~3rd
>> > =2nd
>> > } of October.
>> >
>> > This would translate to HTML to something like this:
>> >
>> > <form action="[1]http://www.foo.com" method="POST">
>> > <div>
>> > <label for="Q1">Mahatma Gandhi's birthday is an Indian holiday
>> on</label>
>> > <select id="Q1" name="Q1">
>> > <option value="Q1R1">15th</option>
>> > <option value="Q1R2">3rd</option>
>> > <option value="Q1R3">2nd</option>
>> > </select>
>> > </div>
>> > </form>
>> >
>> >
>> > This seems rather straight forward. But what about the server side?
>> > In this case, the server would receive "Q1=Q1R1" if you select the
>> first
>> > answer.
>> > The server needs to be configured with the gift file, but I suppose
>> this is a
>> > different process.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 2:59 PM Joseph Reagle <[2]josep...-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > I hadn't encountered GIFT before, neat! You'd have to write custom
>> readers
>> > and writers for pandoc to handle this.
>> >
>> > [3]https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#custom-readers-and-writers
>> >
>> > Otherwise, if you have a GIFT tool, you could simply include the
>> resulting
>> > HTML in the markdown -- there's no markdown convention for forms.
>> >
>> > A dream feature of mine would be able to write quiz/polls in my
>> > markdown-to-revealjs slides, and not have to set up my own server --
>> which
>> > the revealjs poll plugin currently requires. Embedding some of the
>> question
>> > services out there would be awesome and possible, but I don't think
>> there's
>> > been interest on the revealjs sde.
>> >
>> > [4]https://github.com/hakimel/reveal.js/issues/2763
>> >
>> > Then, being able to write questions/answers in a text format would be
>> icing
>> > on the cake. 🙂
>> >
>> > --
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