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From: "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: question on suppress-author citation variant
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 16:55:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF-FPGNV_G=uDUSLeH=P2OcuoRhBW7Q4iWDzEzc7MLfe1FzXJA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YIMfucTZQ1r4QN7S@localhost>

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 3:28 PM Bastien DUMONT
<bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > I guess you use note-based styles?
>
> Yes!
>
> > Why do you have those as part of the same citation, as opposed to
> > putting that content in a note, with two distinct citations?
>
> The problem is that Pandoc would assign the "author in text" output
> method to both citations, which can result in unwanted behaviour in
> some cases. Maybe this doesn't apply to Org-mode.

The org support is designed with configurable processor support, so in
theory, once it's merged, it should be possible to hook up John's
citeproc library with a little elisp glue.

> > Does it make sense to treat "suppress author" differently than other
> > citation variant; like, say, author-in-text (in natbib, \citet)?
>
> I just saw today something like "following Andrews' demonstration
> (2008),...", so yes, it can be viewed as an additional property.

I don't follow. Why isn't that just a simple suppress-author citation?

> > Are these really the properties that should attach to the citation
> > items, rather than the citation overall?
>
> From a purely technical point of view, it depends on whether two
> distinct citations can be placed inside a footnote. From a conceptual
> point of view, I would say that author suppression is "micro-context-
> dependant", so yes, but it is more debatable.

Bruce


  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-23 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-23 18:39 Bruce D'Arcus
     [not found] ` <8553e982-3a50-4c67-b94a-20796b539de1n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-23 18:51   ` Bastien DUMONT
2021-04-23 19:03     ` Bruce D'Arcus
     [not found]       ` <CAF-FPGPdB6T7fLk00NY16r6j7-Xi1KAY-tSoZwigPTCx3BgAdw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-23 19:27         ` Bastien DUMONT
2021-04-23 20:55           ` Bruce D'Arcus [this message]
     [not found]             ` <CAF-FPGNV_G=uDUSLeH=P2OcuoRhBW7Q4iWDzEzc7MLfe1FzXJA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-23 21:50               ` Bastien DUMONT
2021-04-23 22:03   ` AW: " denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
     [not found]     ` <c99863ba9d1545ab83cc7bb87a30f90e-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-23 22:15       ` Bruce D'Arcus
     [not found]         ` <CAF-FPGOapXMcx9DnSTtViB+vSZC_caX63i_N94JMmMc17kbLHQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-24  4:22           ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]             ` <m2o8e4qpl3.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-24 10:29               ` Bruce D'Arcus
     [not found]                 ` <CAF-FPGPoHunF1zB_QrLXr5M9GwPZ8-Quk9PYFT6SCYshaFZ2rg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-24 11:11                   ` AW: " denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
     [not found]                     ` <d7d2345d794e4c21be21977cfe5ea45b-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-24 11:50                       ` Bruce D'Arcus
     [not found]                         ` <CAF-FPGOQ0o6N9Q4UjXcrdrFydoz_emBMmbMQKZm936y5YoKcAA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-24 12:04                           ` AW: " denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ

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