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[2a00:1450:4864:20::42e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p189si544804wmp.1.2021.04.23.12.04.05 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 23 Apr 2021 12:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of bdarcus-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::42e as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::42e; Original-Received: by mail-wr1-x42e.google.com with SMTP id m9so36622831wrx.3 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 12:04:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a5d:4948:: with SMTP id r8mr6399479wrs.35.1619204644332; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 12:04:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: bdarcus-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=jEA8TF4M; spf=pass (google.com: domain of bdarcus-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::42e as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bdarcus-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.text.pandoc:28211 Archived-At: On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 2:51 PM Bastien DUMONT wrote: > > > [cite:-@key1;@key2] > > > > As in, suppress author on first item, but not second, as opposed to all items > > within the citation. > > > > In retrospect, does this make sense? > > One real example: Thank you! > [It was already the case in the 2nd century, following the convincing analysis that Olivier Munnich proposed of the _Dialogue_ of Justin in -@MunnichJudaism;, confirmed by the analysis of Tryphon's arguments in @PouderonSource] I guess you use note-based styles? Why do you have those as part of the same citation, as opposed to putting that content in a note, with two distinct citations? In any case, I guess more broadly: Does it make sense to treat "suppress author" differently than other citation variant; like, say, author-in-text (in natbib, \citet)? Are these really the properties that should attach to the citation items, rather than the citation overall? For org, I'm trying to figure out if "suppress author" is really a style, and secondarily, if it is, should it be allowed to apply to the items within a citation as well. Bruce