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[2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::22c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n132si206389ith.0.2017.01.19.03.00.43 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 19 Jan 2017 03:00:43 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of bpjonsson-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::22c as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::22c; Original-Received: by mail-ot0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id 65so29272141otq.2 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 03:00:43 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.157.51.19 with SMTP id f19mr4343715otc.18.1484823643365; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 03:00:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: bpjonsson-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of bpjonsson-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bpjonsson-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.text.pandoc:16732 Archived-At: --001a113e2dc0d13ab2054670717d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable May I interpret this as that you like my design of Dec 13? :-) https://04037202598852537478.googlegroups.com/attach/b0fb78eaf6e3c/proposed= -pandoc-logo-three-documents-for-all.png?part=3D0.1&view=3D1&vt=3DANaJVrGJH= IrrJozQwIbViYmUWAcdKXy7NpDzcDMQhbZCd1An620i28W3CC84ZcWgOcbcfMt_jYQYhWPwCYwh= W2x8y70FLJphKdQEYQ35IofM_od3Fgdjhjk The arrows would need more styling, but I'm afraid that may be beyond my skill. Cerebral palsy + graphics + GUI is no good combination! On a more serious note what would @jgm think of such a poll? If *he* thinks it OK/would be of any value I could put a couple of hours this weekend on collecting the various proposals from these threads on a wiki page. If @jgm doesn't find it OK and helpful I agree with Sergio that it wouldn't be right. /bpj tors 19 jan. 2017 kl. 09:47 skrev Sergio Correia = : > Personally, I wouldn't use a logo chosen without the approval of John; > would feel a bit rude tbh. That said, we can vote on proposals and pick o= ur > favorites, in order to frame the discussion. > > > About the logo: > > > - We should pick a logo that denotes *what* pandoc does, not *how *it > does it. Users (rightly) don't care that pandoc builds an abstract syn= tax > tree, so that should not be in the logo. (This is also what BP stated = in > his Dec16 post) > - At its core, pandoc converts documents. It converts *.md* into *.htm= l > and so on*. A quick google image search tells us that *the* canonical > icon for conversion is the circle arrow symbol (kinda like the recycli= ng > arrow). example: > http://cracksfree.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/avs-document-converte= r_98327.jpg > - For documents, any stack would do: > http://images.clipartpanda.com/document-clipart-082004-green-grunge-cl= ipart-icon-business-document4.png > > It's also interesting to see how the rmarkdown folks look at this: > > http://rmarkdown.rstudio.com/images/RMarkdownOutputFormats.png > > > > > > On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 3:03:55 AM UTC-5, Albert Krewinkel wrote= : > > =E8=97=A4=E5=8E=9F=E7=94=B1=E6=9D=A5 writes: > > > > > > > Then, as some people say, we need commitment of logo in this group (not > only in > > > > this thread). > > > > > > > > I like the idea to release the final logo in the release date of Pandoc > 2.0. > > > > Because meaning (like a story or literature) is important to be > impressively > > > > remembered for people. > > > > > > It seems clear to me that jgm is the only person who can choose an > > > official pandoc logo. > > > > > > However, we, as an community, can still vote on a logo. It won't be > > > official pandoc logo, but the community logo which can be used to brand > > > projects build with or around pandoc. Of course that logo could be > > > changed as soon as an official logo is chosen. > > > > > > My suggestion would be to wait a little while longer before doing any > > > voting, e.g. until the first of March. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/dea3f868-3f9c-496e-8d20-= 5471582f88cb%40googlegroups.com > > . > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. 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May I interpret this as that you like my design of Dec 13? :-)=C2=A0


The arrows would need more styling, but I'm afraid that may be b= eyond my skill. Cerebral palsy + graphics + GUI is no good combination!

On a more serious note what would @jgm think of such = a poll? If *he* thinks it OK/would be of any value I could put a couple of = hours this weekend on collecting the various proposals from these threads o= n a wiki page. If @jgm doesn't find it OK and helpful I agree with Serg= io that it wouldn't be right.

/bpj
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tors 19 ja= n. 2017 kl. 09:47 skrev Sergio Correia <sergio.correia-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:
Personally, I wouldn't use a logo c= hosen without the approval of John; would feel a bit rude tbh. That said, w= e can vote on proposals and pick our favorites, in order to frame the discu= ssion.


About the= logo:

  • We should = pick a logo that denotes what=C2=A0pandoc does, = not how it does it. Users (rightly) don't ca= re that pandoc builds an abstract syntax tree, so that should not be in the= logo. (This is also what BP stated in his Dec16 post)
  • At its core, pandoc converts documents. It converts .md=C2=A0into .html and so on. A qui= ck google image search tells us that *the* canonical icon for conversion is= the circle arrow symbol (kinda like the recycling arrow). example:=C2=A0http://cracksfree.co= m/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/avs-document-converter_98327.jpg
  • For documents, any stack would do:=C2=A0http://image= s.clipartpanda.com/document-clipart-082004-green-grunge-clipart-icon-busine= ss-document4.png
It's also intere= sting to see how the rmarkdown folks look at this:

http://rmarkdown.rstudio.com/images/RMarkdownOutput= Formats.png


<= /div>



On Thursday, Janu= ary 19, 2017 at 3:03:55 AM UTC-5, Albert Krewinkel wrote:
=
=
=E8=97=A4=E5=8E=9F=E7=94= =B1=E6=9D=A5 <sky.y...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org= > writes:





> Then, as some people say, we need commitment of logo in this grou= p (not only in


> this thread).

>


> I like the i= dea to release the final logo in the release date of Pandoc 2.0.

> Because meaning (like a story or literature) is i= mportant to be impressively


> remembered = for people.





It seems clear to me that jgm is the only person who can choose an

=
official pandoc logo.





However, we, as an community, can still v= ote on a logo. It won't be


official pand= oc logo, but the community logo which can be used to brand


projects build with or around pandoc.=C2=A0 Of course that l= ogo could be


changed as soon as an official = logo is chosen.





My suggestion would be to wait a little while longer before doing any

voting, e.g. until the first of March.









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